Anyone here play there 360 on a Plasma?? im scared of burn in. plz help

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#1 digitalman42
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I am thinking of purchasing a Plasma for my next TV mine is starting to do weird things. I like my LCD projection but im not happy with the blacks and the whites are way too blinding/bright. I like the natural CRT look of the plasmas more even though they arent quite as crisp. But I play alot of 360, and I am scared of burn in. I am leaning towards a panasonic or samsung plasma,, do any of you guys use a plasma with your 360 or have any experience?

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#2 _Classic_Gamer_
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I just recently got a Panasonic Viera Plasma 42" 1080p. I've played more PS3 than 360 on it, but so far no burn in. From what I understand, Panasonic has anti-burn in technology.
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#3 charomid
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there will always be a chance of you getting "burn in" or image retention, but with the newer models of the plasma's the chances are greatly reduced. so if you buy a newer plasma, the chances are slim that you will get it. but many prefer gaming on an lcd, its just opinions. so if you get a plasma be cautious because IT CAN happen.
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Panasonic has something to prevent it to a CERTAIN DEGREE. But for gaming you need a regular LCD screen not projection but an actually screen and get a big one too plasmas are not as good for gaming and burn ins. LCDS great for gaming alright for tv and great for hooking a computer up to. and by the way your tv should let you change the whites and blacks.
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#5 digitalman42
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I have a Sony LCD proj, the picture quality overall is great, better than a generic LCD flat panel. The problem is the blacks on 95% of lcd's are really not that great, I know there is a samsung LCD that has a shinny screen, it's not the normal matte lcd screen, it has blacks like a plasma, im going to have to check out the whites on it though. I just dont like the whites on most LCD screens, they are like on a DLP, too bright and blinding. Like when the screen go's all white, it hurts my eyes.

Panasonic has something to prevent it to a CERTAIN DEGREE. But for gaming you need a regular LCD screen not projection but an actually screen and get a big one too plasmas are not as good for gaming and burn ins. LCDS great for gaming alright for tv and great for hooking a computer up to. and by the way your tv should let you change the whites and blacks.IvanElk

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I used to play on Samsung 42" Plasma and I can tell you that the risk is real. Expecially if you keep fixed images for a prolungated time on the screen. For example I am talking about old arcade games that have some kind of fram around the playing screen. That frame picture if you play for long periods can easily burn in the screen.
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Just get an LCD, they last longer and are just better for gaming.
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#8 _Classic_Gamer_
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Just get an LCD, they last longer and are just better for gaming.MuffinPunk

That's really just an opinion. I've played on both a plasma and an LCD and I enjoy the plasma more.

By the way, anyone who sits down and plays a game long enough to suffer burn in deserves it. It's a sign that you are playing video games too much.

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#9 JMC987
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I have a Panasonic 42" plasma, and nothing has happened so far. They say don't leave static images on (ie. play games) for the first 100 hours. From what I've heard, newer plasma TVs don't get affected as much as older ones.
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u should really get a lcd thats the problem with plasmas screen can fade alot faster
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#11 WardCleaver02
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I have a plasma and haven't experienced any problems with burn-in, but I do "baby" my TV. As was mentioned, the blacks are much better on plasmas than they are on LCDs. Some of my friends have newer, 1080p LCDs, but I still prefer my 720p plasma.

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#12 ownzone55
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It depends on what kind of tv you have.

Just don't leave it on pause or play long periods of time on your 360. Trust me my tv is still perfect.

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Just get an LCD, they last longer and are just better for gaming.MuffinPunk

You're doing it wrong.

LCDs have a response time (BAD for shooters and driving games), Plasmas dont. LCDs fade after acouple years (so even if they last longer, the picture looks like crap), Plasmas dont.

Plasmas DO burn in if you keep a steady pattern (eg. a HUD for a racing game) across the screen for, lets say, 3-4 hours steady. Dont be afraid if you think you see burn in if you have only been playing for like an hour or two, it will go away. If you are getting a plasma, get Panasonic.

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I have a hitachi 42in plasma. Great tv love watching movies on it, and playing 360 on it. But i do feel i have to be careful when gaming on it. Looking back I kind of wish I just got an lcd and dealt with poor black quality.

And nowadays LCDs DO NOT last longer than plasmas. Anyone above who said otherwise, i would just ignore there entire post b/c they obviously dont know what they are talking about.

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[QUOTE="MuffinPunk"]Just get an LCD, they last longer and are just better for gaming.RaC3rFr3Ak

You're doing it wrong.

LCDs have a response time (BAD for shooters and driving games), Plasmas dont. LCDs fade after acouple years (so even if they last longer, the picture looks like crap), Plasmas dont.

Plasmas DO burn in if you keep a steady pattern (eg. a HUD for a racing game) across the screen for, lets say, 3-4 hours steady. Dont be afraid if you think you see burn in if you have only been playing for like an hour or two, it will go away. If you are getting a plasma, get Panasonic.

Also, real quick. The image that stays for a few minutes and goes away after watching full screen tv is not burn-in. That is call Image retention. IR is normal on plasmas and goes away just mintues after watching full screenshows.

After a session of gaming I will usually leave my tv on for about 5 minutes on say the discovery channel and make sure it is full screen. that will get rid of any IR.

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#16 slynger
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I play my 360 on a 50" Pioneer '07 model. Now, I don't play more than 8-9 hrs a week, but I have yet to see any problems from burn in.

Just so you're clear, ANY KIND OF TV (be it LCD, Plasma, Cathode) is subject to burn in. However, LCDs and Plasmas that are past the 4th gen or so should be just fine. (note: were about in the 11th or 12 gen of Plasmas i believe)

Hope that helps.

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Ok, there is burn-in (permanent and rare) and image retention (temporary and normal). From anectdotal evidence on avsforum, Samsungs for some reason are more prone to IR than the other plasmas, AND some isolated reports of actual burn-in.

Choose a non-samsung plasma, and enjoy. The picture quality is head and shoulders above an LCD, and this is coming from a former LCD Whore. All I ever wanted and bought were LCDs, but now I'm a plasma fan, and will not buy an LCD as my main TV. Even with a samsung plasma, using common sense, you won't have a problem. For the first hundred or more hours, break the tv in gently, turn everything down (brightness contrast etc.) and be careful not to leave static images for too long, and if you see black bars, zoom in for the first few months or so.

I vacationed in SF last year, and my room had a plasma (panny or hitachi i forget) and as a test, I left the TV on espn while me and the girl went shopping at union square. 4 hours later, I came up to see if the rolling tickers left any IR, nothing there. Perfectly fine.

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i heard that plasmas have a less of a burn in it. i have a LCD i like it. i would say if u do get a ploasma don't play it for a realy long time.
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Burn in won't happen if you have constant motion...at least not as far as I'm aware. Either way, burn in isn't permanent, or hasn't been in the case of my plasma. Even severe burn in goes away after an hour or so...

I have both a plasma and an LCD. The LCD probably is better for gaming, but I love the Plasma too.

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Ok, there is burn-in (permanent and rare) and image retention (temporary and normal). From anectdotal evidence on avsforum, Samsungs for some reason are more prone to IR than the other plasmas, AND some isolated reports of actual burn-in.

Choose a non-samsung plasma, and enjoy. The picture quality is head and shoulders above an LCD, and this is coming from a former LCD Whore. All I ever wanted and bought were LCDs, but now I'm a plasma fan, and will not buy an LCD as my main TV. Even with a samsung plasma, using common sense, you won't have a problem. For the first hundred or more hours, break the tv in gently, turn everything down (brightness contrast etc.) and be careful not to leave static images for too long, and if you see black bars, zoom in for the first few months or so.

I vacationed in SF last year, and my room had a plasma (panny or hitachi i forget) and as a test, I left the TV on espn while me and the girl went shopping at union square. 4 hours later, I came up to see if the rolling tickers left any IR, nothing there. Perfectly fine.

jdang307

I don't know if I can agree with that. Plasmas were amazing for a while, but refined LCDs are much better IMO. Less chance of burn in, and they flat out look better picture wise. Plus as others have stated, longer life, etc.

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#21 mgow
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lcds DO NOT have longer life spans

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#22 matt2012
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Just about all of the new plasma's don't have problems with burn in. I'm pretty sure you'll be fine.
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I don't know if I can agree with that. Plasmas were amazing for a while, but refined LCDs are much better IMO. Less chance of burn in, and they flat out look better picture wise. Plus as others have stated, longer life, etc.FFF4N4T1C
Somebody lied to you. Nobody in their right mind that is serious about a/v would say a quality LCD looks better picture wise, than a quality plasma. As stated, you have motion blur, which some might know as ghosting, even on the fastest LCDs. They try to combat this with 120hz lcds, which doesnt' totally eliminate it, and introduces another defect (that video vs. film feeling). Sony XBR Bravias, which have the best black levels period of LCD's, still don't approach a good plasma, and I'm not talking about Kuros which are $$$. Viewing angles are better. Color accuracy except in brightly lit rooms (but this one is fairly close between the two).

LCDs are brighter, better for PC usage, and is not a bad technology. Not at all. But dont' fool yourself into thinking they're better PQ wise than plasma. That doesn't mean LCD is bad. Don't take it the wrong way. Longer life, nope. Power usage, depends. LCD's have a flat power curve. Plasmas vary with material. A properly calibrated plasma may use a tiny bit more power, but not much.

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Vizio 32' LCD = the perfect T.V. I have it and even though i dont play as much on it anymore i would used to go hours on in without turning it off or my 360 and it still looks good as new. btw, after you get a plasma or LCD or whatever you decide on get a good surround sound... It makes a big difference. Hope i could help
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[QUOTE="FFF4N4T1C"]I don't know if I can agree with that. Plasmas were amazing for a while, but refined LCDs are much better IMO. Less chance of burn in, and they flat out look better picture wise. Plus as others have stated, longer life, etc.jdang307

Somebody lied to you. Nobody in their right mind that is serious about a/v would say a quality LCD looks better picture wise, than a quality plasma. As stated, you have motion blur, which some might know as ghosting, even on the fastest LCDs. They try to combat this with 120hz lcds, which doesnt' totally eliminate it, and introduces another defect (that video vs. film feeling). Sony XBR Bravias, which have the best black levels period of LCD's, still don't approach a good plasma, and I'm not talking about Kuros which are $$$. Viewing angles are better. Color accuracy except in brightly lit rooms (but this one is fairly close between the two).

LCDs are brighter, better for PC usage, and is not a bad technology. Not at all. But dont' fool yourself into thinking they're better PQ wise than plasma. That doesn't mean LCD is bad. Don't take it the wrong way. Longer life, nope. Power usage, depends. LCD's have a flat power curve. Plasmas vary with material. A properly calibrated plasma may use a tiny bit more power, but not much.

I completely agree with you. As I stated earlier, I bought my Samsung 42" Plasma about 1 year ago and I think it still looks better than the the Sony Bravia 1080p LCDs that some of my friends have recently purchased. The blacks especially look better. I'll take "babying" my TV a little to have better picture quality.

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If your going to get a plasma, don't buy a cheap brand. I'm talking LG or those weird ass no names. I know LG isn't really a cheap brand but there plasmas suck. I was helping my dad's friend hook up his LG plasma and just having the set up menu for his DVD player up for 10 min, the outline of the menu almost burned in, it slowly went away but it was close. Like many here have, you cant go wrong with a Panasonic Plasma, or Pioneer. Almost every other company is working on LCD, which in the end makes there plasma lacking.
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#27 Lostfile
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Why do you guys keep saying LCDs can't do black all that great? I have a Vizio 32" and the black looks like..black!
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#28 king_murloc
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ive played my 360 on a plasma tv for the last year and its just fine so theres no need to worry
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If you buy a well known brand you may be ok, but my friend didn't and suffered because of it. Unknown brand 40" plasma, that he played Halo 3 for 8 hours straight. Woke up the next morning, turned it on, and found the Halo HUD burnt into the image.

He was able to get rid of the burn in by leaving on a constantly changing picture all day, but it was enough to convince me that an LCD was a much safer bet.

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#30 volume_three
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I've used both a 42" Plasma [Viera] and a 32" LCD [Series 5] for gaming and I much prefer LCD.

I've never received any burn on the plasma, even after 8+ hour sessions but the image doesn't look quite as good as the LCD @ 1080P. Also, the plasma generates a lot more heat and consumes a lot more power, according to Today/Tonight ;)

As for response times, the Series 5 has a response time of 5ms [5 one thousandths of a second] which is impossible to count, let alone notice [unless you really suck @ FPS, then it becomes the perfect excuse:shock: ]

I bought the Series 5 from The Good Guys about a week ago for $1100. Check HERE for their latest catalogue.

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By the way, anyone who sits down and plays a game long enough to suffer burn in deserves it. It's a sign that you are playing video games too much.

_Classic_Gamer_

That's a bit harsh.

Anyway, on topic, turn down the white color levels. I'm not sure what they are called in English but in my Finnish menus they're called "background light". On default they're about at 5 in a scale of 0-10. I have mine in 1 and it still does great picture.

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#32 jdang307
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Why do you guys keep saying LCDs can't do black all that great? I have a Vizio 32" and the black looks like..black! Lostfile
Without anything else to compare to, your eyes will adjust and see the lcd's as black. This is true. Side by side, it's not. You might think, oh I'm not going to have another tv next to it. This is also true, however a deeper black improves your colors, providing further contrast (why do you think they call it contrast levels?) and therefore improving color depth and all that other gravy.