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#1 CrazyAssJack
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With all this talk from Jack Thompson about GTA and now Halo it got me thinking, are games going in the wrong direction. In this day and age of better graphics violence and gore in games seems more real and so harder to forget when you switch off the game, but should technology dictate violence in games.
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#2 ihateyou_right
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One word'NO'
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#3 th2
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Rambo is fiction and killing in game stops people from doing it real life.
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#4 Ultra-Alue
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If anything they need to be more violent.
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#5 FearlessSpirit
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I'll tell you something; I don't play games because I can do in them what I can do in real life. If I could, I wouldn't play games. None of the games I've played so far are possible in real life. At least for me they aren't.

He should be happy. Because if I can't put all this energy of stuff I want to do in games, then I'm doing them in real life. I'm a very nice person, or so I've been told. I really think without games I wouldn't be so nice. Sad, sure, but true. 

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#6 sabru8
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Violence sells.....but I do not think that games are TOO violent.
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#7 KoRn_Eddy_88
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Only if your a pansey
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#8 shinian
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Some movies are more violent than games:P
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#9 KoRn_Eddy_88
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Some movies are more violent than games:Pshinian

have you see the new Rambo trailer? blood and guts everywhere. 

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#10 GungraveZero
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No, parents are becoming more ignorant. A lot of parents let their underaged, already violent kids play violent games. I played violent games for a long time and I can say with 100% confidence that I did not have a history of violence before, during, or after I played a certain game due to my parents teaching me wrong from right. To me, it all depends on the parents who let their kids play the games and don't teach them fiction from reality.
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#11 DrDreth
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[QUOTE="shinian"]Some movies are more violent than games:PKoRn_Eddy_88

have you see the new Rambo trailer? blood and guts everywhere.

seen hills have eyes? 

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#13 Metalnoid
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Yeah! That is what i like to see. Only Jack Thompson could say yes.

I hope one day see games like the old Soldier of Fortune style.

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#14 cwash08
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I say it depends on a child's ability to see the difference between games and real life and how you are raised. it gives violent thoughts but it doesn't make you violent. Its just like watching an r rated movie. If it did make people violent then there would be a whole a lot more dangerous world to live in.
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#15 cwash08
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o i read the question wrong.
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#16 ragincoley86
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No i think life and people are too violent.
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#17 honkyjoe
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Some movies are more violent than games:Pshinian

very true..very true..

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#18 Ryo_Kensen
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I saw more violence on CNN then I did in Halo.
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#19 spitfir3blue
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no...games aren't too violent, why don't you shut your mouth before I CHAINSAW YOUR FACE OFF!!!!!!!!
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#20 boomshakalaka88
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No, its because the parents are getting really stupid.
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#21 Staryoshi87
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If one finds it hard to differentiate between real and fictional violence, they need help.

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#22 capthavic
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To answer the topic question any sane person can tell you, no! These are mature games for mature gamers, just like any other form of entertainment. If an M rated game gets into a child's hands it is the parents fault and theirs alone. People like Jack paint videogames to be this evil thing despite all facts saying the opposite. Really with all the troubles in this world, violence in games is the least of our problems.
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#23 fordies
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I dont think they are and i think other forms of entertainment are just as if not more violent than gaming some will say but you control the characted doing the violence in games but pressing a button is very different to shooting someone or running someone over.

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#24 doomsoth
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They would only become too violent if they cause us to actually become violent.  Any one read 1984?

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#25 JopaGeri
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Movies are just as Violent as any video game i have ever seen. So No.
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#26 SkaterM80
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No, games are not too violent......yet.

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#27 sonofabear17
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i say the more violent the better. i see videogames as a stess relever if i kill someone in a videogame i dont have to in real life...did that make me sound demented
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#28 bond_rk
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not at all. they keep thinking games are provokeing voilence. i get my anger out in a violent game rather than someone else.
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#29 JohnWinger
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With all this talk from Jack Thompson about GTA and now Halo it got me thinking, are games going in the wrong direction. In this day and age of better graphics violence and gore in games seems more real and so harder to forget when you switch off the game, but should technology dictate violence in games.CrazyAssJack

 

I think your a very unintelligent person for starting a topic based on speculation and opinion. Then relaying this false propaganda as fact.

 

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#30 Darth_Tigris
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With all this talk from Jack Thompson about GTA and now Halo it got me thinking, are games going in the wrong direction. In this day and age of better graphics violence and gore in games seems more real and so harder to forget when you switch off the game, but should technology dictate violence in games.CrazyAssJack

Hmm.  Doesn't seem like most of the responses here are to what you everything actually stated but instead based on preselected biases. 

But, to answer your point directly, as games become more graphically realistic, violence too has become a lot more visceral and detailed.  And, as someone that's nearing the end of his 4th decade of gaming (started in the laaaate 70's), the more realistic game violence has become, the more it has turned me off.  Realistic violence is ugly and horrifying, and the closer gaming gets to that ... well, it has the same effect for me.

With that, I'm not ready to make a connection between real world violence and game violence.  I think that discussion is very complicated and nobody wants to deal with complicated issues as they should in this day and age.  But I do wish that more and more games would offer alternatives to using violence as a solution to dealing with problems.  That's something that I've loved about Splinter Cell games.  They have dealt with violence and the consequences of it better than any other games that I've played.  AND they offer solutions other than violence to reach nearly all of the objectives in the games.

With that, maybe instead of asking if games are too violent, the question should be are there too many violent games?

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#31 Trickshot771
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Games are NEVER too violent as long as the player is mature enough to play it.
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#32 Platearmor_6
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Games are NEVER too violent as long as the player is mature enough to play it.Trickshot771

Spot on. 

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I'll tell you something; I don't play games because I can do in them what I can do in real life. If I could, I wouldn't play games. None of the games I've played so far are possible in real life. At least for me they aren't.

He should be happy. Because if I can't put all this energy of stuff I want to do in games, then I'm doing them in real life. I'm a very nice person, or so I've been told. I really think without games I wouldn't be so nice. Sad, sure, but true. 

FearlessSpirit

I agree, if there were only games based on driving around..going to work....doing schoolwork etc...Who the hell would buy that?

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#34 Flamecommando
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Somebody said yes! Get'em!!!
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#35 ag1002
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no.  Its fun. 
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Only if your a pansey KoRn_Eddy_88

well said.  and if your already mentally unstable.

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#37 pumpkinescobar
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i say the more violent the better. i see videogames as a stess relever if i kill someone in a videogame i dont have to in real life...did that make me sound dementedsonofabear17

yeah, but who cares!  i like demented people and i like really violent videogames.

 

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#39 hansmacher
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games are no more violent than they were 10 years ago, they are just more gorey
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#40 hachiman128
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[QUOTE="Trickshot771"]Games are NEVER too violent as long as the player is mature enough to play it.Platearmor_6

Spot on.

Exactly. As a relatively mature 15 year old, I think I'm mature enough to play an M rated game such as Gears of War or Halo 2, and I do play them. Should I be hearing the dreadfully squeaky voices of 10 years olds playing with me? Absolutely not, and especially not on Gears of War lol.

 

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#41 lvin5992
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Rambo is fiction and killing in game stops people from doing it real life.th2
Yeah just keep the violence in game. Some of the stuff you see in video games isn't as bad as movies and t.v.
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#42 processedkill
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I recently puchased Saint's Row. And most of you should know there is lots of vulgar language and violence in the game. I also have a little sister, she was really into it (not actually playing herself, but watching me), and after my parents saw what it was about, they no longer let her watch me play it. Although some may think it's good, I am on the fence as I also noticed her tendancy to try to watch me play it without me saying anything to her, so I'm thinking do you introduce games like this so the child won't care about it as much. Or should we keep them away making them want to watch and see what's going on, because if a child is watching something they want, they'll pay more attention to it.

Just my thoughts... but as for myself... I say COME ON WITH THE VIOLENCE!

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I recently puchased Saint's Row. And most of you should know there is lots of vulgar language and violence in the game. I also have a little sister, she was really into it (not actually playing herself, but watching me), and after my parents saw what it was about, they no longer let her watch me play it. Although some may think it's good, I am on the fence as I also noticed her tendancy to try to watch me play it without me saying anything to her, so I'm thinking do you introduce games like this so the child won't care about it as much. Or should we keep them away making them want to watch and see what's going on, because if a child is watching something they want, they'll pay more attention to it.

Just my thoughts... but as for myself... I say COME ON WITH THE VIOLENCE!

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you might as well say lets let everyone try crack, that way they dont want it?

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#44 trickazzmark
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games arent that violent...gears set the bar really high though...a gun with a chainsaw is a dope way to finish off a person.
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#45 hansmacher
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What it really comes down to is the fact that if a person has the mentality to go on a killing spree, they just have that in them.  I dont think that playing a violent game is going to push them over the edge.  You would also have a hard time convincing me that aiming with your thumbs can prepare you to be more efficient with a real gun. 
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#46 processedkill
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[QUOTE="processedkill"]

I recently puchased Saint's Row. And most of you should know there is lots of vulgar language and violence in the game. I also have a little sister, she was really into it (not actually playing herself, but watching me), and after my parents saw what it was about, they no longer let her watch me play it. Although some may think it's good, I am on the fence as I also noticed her tendancy to try to watch me play it without me saying anything to her, so I'm thinking do you introduce games like this so the child won't care about it as much. Or should we keep them away making them want to watch and see what's going on, because if a child is watching something they want, they'll pay more attention to it.

Just my thoughts... but as for myself... I say COME ON WITH THE VIOLENCE!

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you might as well say lets let everyone try crack, that way they dont want it?

Does everyone really want crack? As there are no benefits... 

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With all this talk from Jack Thompson about GTA and now Halo it got me thinking, are games going in the wrong direction. In this day and age of better graphics violence and gore in games seems more real and so harder to forget when you switch off the game, but should technology dictate violence in games.CrazyAssJack

yea they are if ur a homo

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No, parents are becoming more ignorant. A lot of parents let their underaged, already violent kids play violent games. I played violent games for a long time and I can say with 100% confidence that I did not have a history of violence before, during, or after I played a certain game due to my parents teaching me wrong from right. To me, it all depends on the parents who let their kids play the games and don't teach them fiction from reality.GungraveZero

That and a good ol' ass kickin (sorry mods had to be said) by mom and pop to give me a reality check to make sure I knew I was still in the "real" world ;) ... 

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[QUOTE="hansmacher"][QUOTE="processedkill"]

I recently puchased Saint's Row. And most of you should know there is lots of vulgar language and violence in the game. I also have a little sister, she was really into it (not actually playing herself, but watching me), and after my parents saw what it was about, they no longer let her watch me play it. Although some may think it's good, I am on the fence as I also noticed her tendancy to try to watch me play it without me saying anything to her, so I'm thinking do you introduce games like this so the child won't care about it as much. Or should we keep them away making them want to watch and see what's going on, because if a child is watching something they want, they'll pay more attention to it.

Just my thoughts... but as for myself... I say COME ON WITH THE VIOLENCE!

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you might as well say lets let everyone try crack, that way they dont want it?

Does everyone really want crack? As there are no benefits... 

ok crack might be a little extreme, but lets X instead.

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#50 hansmacher
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[QUOTE="GungraveZero"]No, parents are becoming more ignorant. A lot of parents let their underaged, already violent kids play violent games. I played violent games for a long time and I can say with 100% confidence that I did not have a history of violence before, during, or after I played a certain game due to my parents teaching me wrong from right. To me, it all depends on the parents who let their kids play the games and don't teach them fiction from reality.DeltoidRecon

That and a good ol' ass kickin (sorry mods had to be said) by mom and pop to give me a reality check to make sure I knew I was still in the "real" world ;) ... 

 

AMEN