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Poll Are you going to buy the Xbox Scorpio? (69 votes)

Yes! Day One! 42%
Yes, but sometime after release. 30%
No, I would rather play on the original Xbox One, PS4 or the weaker PS4 Pro. 28%

Just wondering who out there is planning on buying the Xbox Scorpio next year?

More than likely I will pre-order one as soon as they are available. I bought a 2TB Xbox One S to hold me over in the mean time.

Who's ready for 6+ Teraflops of glory!!?

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#1  Edited By SolidTy
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@SoupyFlow:

No, according to the Head of Xbox Phil Spencer the Xbone Scorpio is just an Xbone designed for 4K (Xbone 4K) and Spencer also said the Xbone Scorpio will not have it's own set of games or exclusives. It will just play Xbone games with upgrades.

The Xbone Scorpio is also a full year away which is a LONG time in gaming, and asking people to wait a year can be a very, very tough proposition for early 4K adopters.

I have no interest in buying a machine to play the games I already can play today. I'll wait for XbTwo/Xbox 4/etc after the Xbone Scorpio which will have it's own set of new games not available on Xbone.

I'm fine with my current launch 2013 Xbone. I'm not interested in these mid-gen console upgrades (I'm not buying an Xbone Scorpio or PS4 Pro). I've said and maintained this stance for over a year for both Xbox and Playstation (Example on PS4Pro http://www.gamespot.com/forums/playstation-nation-1000002/ps4-owners-only-do-you-plan-on-upgrading-to-a-ps4--33360767/#42)

I despise the idea of repeatedly rebuying and spending thousand $$$+ on hardware over and over (Xbone, Xbone S, Xbone Scorpio) in a generation to play the same set of games.

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@SolidTy said:

Microsoft announced Project Scorpio, a more powerful Xbox One, at its E3 press conference. It supports 4K gaming, and Xbox head Phil Spencer said in an interview with Eurogamer that the console's full benefits can only be seen on a 4K TV.

"[If you own a 1080p TV] then you should buy [an Xbox One S], because Scorpio is not going to do anything for you," Spencer said. "Scorpio is designed as a 4K console, and if you don't have a 4K TV, the benefit we've designed for, you're not going to see."

Spencer added that you can buy the Scorpio, though you would need to "buy a 4K TV to take advantage of the increased performance." Spencer also talked about how the most powerful console isn't always the one that "wins," noting theWii's strong sales last generation.

Xbox clarified again for those that don't understand what the Xbone Scorpio is, it's never going to have exclusives. It's an Xbone 4K machine:

There's been a fair bit of confusion regarding whether or not the Xbox One Scorpio, Microsoft's major spec bump for the Xbox One that is launching late next year, will get any exclusive games or not. Some people within Microsoft are ruling out the possibility, while others say that the choice will be left to developers.

However, in an interview, Xbox head Phil Spencer has set the record straight once and for all-

there will be no Xbox One Scorpio exclusives.

"For you and I, we usually think about generations in terms of what games will it play?" Spencer told Eurogamer. "This thing will play Ryse: Son of Rome, a launch game for your Xbox One. And we'll have launch Scorpio games as well that are playable on an Xbox One, Xbox One S and Scorpio and look great on all three of them," he concluded, adding very definitively and explicitly that the Xbox One Scorpio will not have any exclusives whatsoever.

"There won't be Scorpio exclusive console games. Absolutely not."

"When you're buying a console game from us, you know that console game will run on your original Xbox. No-one gets left behind. We said that on stage. Your Xbox One S and Scorpio. That's an important design point for us. They're all part of the same family. And we want to make sure just like when you're buying your music today, you don't worry about upgrading to a new phone that somehow won't play your old songs or your new songs. We think about your Xbox One collection of games that will move with you between those different consoles," Spencer explained.

So if you own an Xbox One already, and don't feel like buying another one- don't.

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#2 brimmul777
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A year is quite a long way off.A sh*t load of things could happen within a years time.If I have the cash to buy a 4K tv and a new XS.Who knows how much the new Xbox Scorpio will cost?Will it be worth upgrading to 4K,for both t.v. and console.Right now I just bought a Samsung "55" HDTV for gaming on my Xbox One.As of now,impossible to predict.

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#3 narlymech
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No, not getting the Scorpio, unless I win the lottery. I'm happy with my xbox one and hdtv.

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#4 GhostHawk196
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Make no mistake, Microsoft has flopped once with the xboned they shall do so again with the xboned Scorpio. 6TF ain't enough to run at native 4k unless you have lowest possible settings.

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#5 TuMekeNZ
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Day 1 here. Bought X1S to see me through the next year then it'll be all Scorpio all the time.

Not expecting or wanting every/many games to run 4K/60FPS but if they do it'll be a bonus.

PS gamers are happy with Pro and Scorpio will do everything it can do and more plus play the games I like.

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#6 Jak42
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Given that it's at least a year away. I am quite unsure. I'm skeptical if the hype for this thing can die down. That it may be priced too high for its own good. We know that history has shown us the most powerful console doesn't guarantee dominance. And if so, my investment in Scorpio at launch price will be pretty hard to justify.

And given that I plan on getting a gaming PC. I may just be ok with an X1S. Particularly since I should be able to nab a pretty sweet bundle when I do make that purchase.

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#7 SecretPolice
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Day one baby !!! :D

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#8  Edited By Alucard_Prime
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Yes I plan on buying it on release as long as Xbox keeps delivering the good stuff. I'll be honest though, its not really something I'm thinking about. Right now I'm happy Horizon 3 is getting rave reviews and stoked to play it on my day off Friday!

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#9 suicidesn0wman
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Plan on buying it day 1, but I need to find that amazing 4k tv first. Eventually I will end up with all 3 new console models(PS, Xbox, Nin).

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#10  Edited By TheAFKPro
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I hope it will be worth the purchase

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#11  Edited By SoupyFlow
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@suicidesn0wman:

Same here! I always end up buying all of the consoles anyhow, so I will for surely end up with the Nintendo NX and maybe a PS4 Pro. You win video games, you win.

The Scorpio is going to be a beast.

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#12  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@GhostHawk196 said:

Make no mistake, Microsoft has flopped once with the xboned they shall do so again with the xboned Scorpio. 6TF ain't enough to run at native 4k unless you have lowest possible settings.

Omg give it a rest... go do your homework or you'll get in trouble off mummy.

Anyway, I'll be getting Scorpio... not sure about day 1 though. Maybe.

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#13  Edited By oflow
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Yep. People complaining about mid gen upgrades, don't have to buy it but I will be day one.

I primarily PC gamed for years and had to buy a new GPU every 3 years that was in the $300 price range.

I don't really see this as much different now that console tech is basically turning into PC tech. Especially if the upgrade is definitely a big increase like Scorpio will be to the One. Plus I can trade my original in on it. I have a 4K tv so I don't really see a negative involved besides spending money I was going to spend anyway.

The other thing is if Scorpio is a big success, I don't see MS bring out another next generation console any time soon after Scorpio. I actually think MS might surprise a lot of people and make Scorpio modular, which would preemptively throw a monkey wrench in the PS5 too.

I think Scorpio isn't even going to be an 'Xbox' but a branded PC something along the lines of what MS is doing with the Surface Pro.

They are going to make the Steambox style rig they wanted the X1 to initially be.

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#14 sukraj
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@GhostHawk196 said:

Make no mistake, Microsoft has flopped once with the xboned they shall do so again with the xboned Scorpio. 6TF ain't enough to run at native 4k unless you have lowest possible settings.

the scorpio isn't even out yet and you're already saying that it's going to flop do you know something we don't know dude.

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#15 Starshine_M2A2
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Yes, a year from now I'll have saved up. Also, the regular XONE takes up my entire desk space at the moment...

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#16 SolidTy
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Too many other games and consoles to keep buying the same consoles updated.

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#17 sukraj
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gimme it I need the scorpio right now can't wait a whole year.

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#18 SecretPolice
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@sukraj said:

gimme it I need the scorpio right now can't wait a whole year.

Seconded !!

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@sukraj said:
@GhostHawk196 said:

Make no mistake, Microsoft has flopped once with the xboned they shall do so again with the xboned Scorpio. 6TF ain't enough to run at native 4k unless you have lowest possible settings.

the scorpio isn't even out yet and you're already saying that it's going to flop do you know something we don't know dude.

No, he knows very little...

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#20  Edited By KK_Slider
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Probably not, especially if it's expensive, but I wont rule it out.

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#21 dylan35
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@undefined: Day one 4 days ago I picked up an S and the resolution in menus and games looks Crisper. The reason mainly was for the 4k player having had 4k tv's the last 3 years I wanted 4k bluray streaming isn't always the best quality. I love gaming and trust Microsoft now having 360 titles and being to keep them all into the future

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#22  Edited By abanghasan
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it is a very good console, im going to buy this console this year!!! and a 4k hd tv, oh my god, cant wait to enjoy high end gaming experience, this is what im waiting until now.

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#23  Edited By TurboGraphix
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I'll wait a few months after release and then pick this console up. If I can get a console of where Gears 4, Injustice 2 and Marvel vs Capcom:Infinite all looks better, then im sold 100%. So hype to see some gameplay, wishing Xbox and the team the best of luck. This looks promising.

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#24 joseph_mach
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Yup. Day 1 for me. Damn you and your fancy "newer" technology MS...

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Well i've had my Panasonic Viera tv for over 6yrs now and it's time to upgrade, so i might as well get the Scorpio & a 4k tv. Seeing Forza 7 on the Scorpio and the XB1 will no doubt push me to purchase one.

If anyone could give me some advice on a good 4k tv that would be appreciated.

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@i_p_daily said:

Well i've had my Panasonic Viera tv for over 6yrs now and it's time to upgrade, so i might as well get the Scorpio & a 4k tv. Seeing Forza 7 on the Scorpio and the XB1 will no doubt push me to purchase one.

If anyone could give me some advice on a good 4k tv that would be appreciated.

Picked up my 4k HDR 46" before Christmas for $650. Sony Bravia. I can recommend this highly. Quality picture, Horizon 0 Dawn looks amazing on it as do other games. Gears 4 I played on a 4k tv but at release. But this one is HDR and the colors just pop, dude. HDR proved itself to me.

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#28 Hondalover66
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@i_p_daily: I have the Samsung K8500 65" curved tv and it's pretty amazing.

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@cainetao11 said:
@i_p_daily said:

Well i've had my Panasonic Viera tv for over 6yrs now and it's time to upgrade, so i might as well get the Scorpio & a 4k tv. Seeing Forza 7 on the Scorpio and the XB1 will no doubt push me to purchase one.

If anyone could give me some advice on a good 4k tv that would be appreciated.

Picked up my 4k HDR 46" before Christmas for $650. Sony Bravia. I can recommend this highly. Quality picture, Horizon 0 Dawn looks amazing on it as do other games. Gears 4 I played on a 4k tv but at release. But this one is HDR and the colors just pop, dude. HDR proved itself to me.

@hondalover66 said:

@i_p_daily: I have the Samsung K8500 65" curved tv and it's pretty amazing.

Thanks guys i will check them out.

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#30 FenderKiller17
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Yes, but since I bought a Xbox One S two months ago to replace my Day One Edition Xbox One. So I'll be waiting until the first price drop.

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#31 Alucard_Prime
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I'm pre-ordering one the moment I can

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#32 hrt_rulz01
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@Alucard_Prime said:

I'm pre-ordering one the moment I can

Can't you guys pre-order yet? We've been able to pre-order at EB Games here in Aus for months now.

Had mine pre-ordered months ago :)

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#33 wildhoney66
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have they said a price yet? i'm not really caring about what it looks like at the moment i just want to know what the hell the damn thing is going to cost? i live in the states so i WISH they'd just announce it already

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#34 Alucard_Prime
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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@Alucard_Prime said:

I'm pre-ordering one the moment I can

Can't you guys pre-order yet? We've been able to pre-order at EB Games here in Aus for months now.

Had mine pre-ordered months ago :)

I haven't tried at EB Games yet, usually I go with Best Buy, I am also waiting to see the Microsoft store. Might check with EB games later if I get a chance. I'm a little concerned about stock issues lol, kind of like with the Elite controller....they were hard to come by at launch. And I want the Scorpio on day 1 lol.....I have my 4K TV ready :)

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#35 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@Alucard_Prime said:

I'm pre-ordering one the moment I can

Can't you guys pre-order yet? We've been able to pre-order at EB Games here in Aus for months now.

Had mine pre-ordered months ago :)

I bet EB has it for a grand or something like that right?

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#36 hrt_rulz01
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@i_p_daily: Lol yeah... they do that with every console before price is revealed. Was same with Switch.

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@cainetao11 said:
@i_p_daily said:

Well i've had my Panasonic Viera tv for over 6yrs now and it's time to upgrade, so i might as well get the Scorpio & a 4k tv. Seeing Forza 7 on the Scorpio and the XB1 will no doubt push me to purchase one.

If anyone could give me some advice on a good 4k tv that would be appreciated.

Picked up my 4k HDR 46" before Christmas for $650. Sony Bravia. I can recommend this highly. Quality picture, Horizon 0 Dawn looks amazing on it as do other games. Gears 4 I played on a 4k tv but at release. But this one is HDR and the colors just pop, dude. HDR proved itself to me.

Since my move to New York, I had to leave behind my TV, so I could only squeeze in this 26" TV in my car...lol. So I'll be purchasing this Sony 900E 49'' within the next month or so. What I actually plan on doing is trading my Xbox One S for a Pro, knock out the exclusives I've been wanting to play and by the time the Scorpio hits, I may trade the Pro up for the Scorpio or probably just pick up the Scorpio to compliment the Pro...

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#38 KillzoneSnake
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Nope. 4k is something I don't care about, plus Xbox has nearly no good exclusives. I will just pick up a Xbox One S for backwards comp and maybe quantum break and gears 4. PS4 will remain as my main.

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#39 RogerHHeflin
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I am getting one a couple months after Launch.... Can't wait

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#40 SecretPolice
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Day One Baby!!!

At $399.99, I'll take three please.

At $499.99, I'll take two please. :P

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#41 Hondalover66
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I was considering getting one but now I'm beginning to waiver slightly. For almost 2.5 years I was strictly PS4. Subsequently, when the Pro came out, I sold my PS4 and got it. I do have a 4K TV. Right after Black Friday, GameStop was still selling the Xbox One S Gears of War bundle for $250 so I picked it up on a whim. I've still yet to play any of the GOW but I plan on it. Games I've purchased are Assassins Creed (first one) Red Dead Redemption, Doom BFG, Far Cry 3, Hitman Absolution, Halo MC Collection and the Bioshock Collection. I also designed my own controller a few weeks ago when they were $15 off. Of those games, I've beaten AC, FC3, Hitman and the first Bioshock. But why I'm waivering somewhat is the Nintendo Switch. I think it would round out my collection nicely and I'm not buying both. Although my wife said she would buy them for me if I wanted her to! But I told her no, this is my addiction not hers. I'm gonna ponder this a few more months but as it stands, that's my dilemma.

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#42 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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Most likely, but not at launch.

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Just as what SolidTy stated, I too am not a console upgrading fan and I don't like how this now becoming a thing. I'm totally happy with my PS4/Xbox One models as they are and buying Scorpio makes no sense to me whats-so-ever and this is a upgrade console, not a next-gen console. I'm one of the few gamers who never complain about these consoles being weaker then the other. I was impress what Xbox One had to offer and that goes for PS4. I'll be skipping Scorpio and if I wanted raw power, my high-end PC can give me that already.

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#44 RogerHHeflin
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Yes... about 2 to 3 months after release... I am still playing X360 and 100+ games... I got into 7th Gen late and am going to get into the 8th Generation with the Scorpio

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#45 ArmyCombatVet
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I will. Especially if they announce that Destiny 2 will play at 60 fps. Some people say no it won't, some say yes it could because of recent Tweets from Microsoft employees about Scorpio. If Destiny 2 plays at 30 fps on Scorpio I'll be highly disappointed and then may wait on purchasing a Scorpio and get a gaming PC instead.

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#46 NeonicTrash
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I plan to buy Day 1, just as I did with the original X1...as long as it's under $501.

But if it's no lower than $500, they're really going to have to sell me on comparisons between the same games of games I already own or want to buy, of the differences.

$399 and I won't hesitate.

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#47 NeonicTrash
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@SolidTy said:

@SoupyFlow:

No, according to the Head of Xbox Phil Spencer the Xbone Scorpio is just an Xbone designed for 4K (Xbone 4K) and Spencer also said the Xbone Scorpio will not have it's own set of games or exclusives. It will just play Xbone games with upgrades.

I'm fine with my current launch 2013 Xbone. I'm not interested in these mid-gen console upgrades (I'm not buying an Xbone Scorpio or PS4 Pro). I've said and maintained this stance for over a year for both Xbox and Playstation (Example on PS4Pro http://www.gamespot.com/forums/playstation-nation-1000002/ps4-owners-only-do-you-plan-on-upgrading-to-a-ps4--33360767/#42)

I despise the idea of repeatedly rebuying and spending thousand $$$+ on hardware over and over (Xbone, Xbone S, Xbone Scorpio) in a generation to play the same set of games.

You can post a thousand quotes from the past year. Does every major Xbox AAA still come out for 360? Can you find the quote where anyone of authority from MS came out and explicitly said: "Yeah guys, 360 is pretty much done, so you kinda need to have a 1 if you wanna keep playing AAAs."<Is this ever done, by any company?

They HAVE to keep saying no Scorpio exclusives to not rile X1 people who won't or can't upgrade now/yet. It DOES NOT mean that NEVER EVER EVER will AAAs just STOP coming out for base X1, and you will NEED a Scorpio, or with base X1 you'll only get a gimped version of the game like with Shadow Of Mordor 360, compared to X1 version.

I think it's very possible the Scorpio is MS's long-term Xbox, with X1 being phased out like 360 within 3-5 years. Then we see the new Xbox, but it's backwards compatible all the way back to 360, plays all X1 games, more powerful than Scorpio, BUT games still run on Scorpio, just not as good.

If I thought after 3-5 years there will NO games playable on Scorpio and MS will just move on to next console I'm not even sure I'd buy one. As someone who spent over 2k on a giant 4k TV, has never gamed in 4k or been able to watch a 4k blu ray, Scorpio is great value to me though.

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@NeonicTrash: The 360 comparison doesn't fly because those games are different skus and a different entire library than the Xbone. They were different generations with their own games. The 360 released in 2005, the Xbone in 2013, and they play different games. Different games for consumers to buy off the wall of the game/retail store. The Xbone Scorpio plays Xbone games off the shelf, it is an Xbone designed for 4K and plays the Xbone games available today.

Whether Xbox execs and Phil Spencer are lying about the future of the Scorpio is one thing you are free to believe, but what we do know is that day one the Xbone Scorpio will only play the exact same Xbone games on the shelf for people to buy, much like the PS4 Pro plays PS4 games.

It's an Xbone.5 and it's library will be the exact same Xbone games we play today...with enhancements. I'll just save tons of money $$$ and continue to play my Xbone until a new Xbox comes out with a new generation of exclusive games that I can't play on my Xbone.

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@davillain- said:

Just as what SolidTy stated, I too am not a console upgrading fan and I don't like how this now becoming a thing. I'm totally happy with my PS4/Xbox One models as they are and buying Scorpio makes no sense to me whats-so-ever and this is a upgrade console, not a next-gen console. I'm one of the few gamers who never complain about these consoles being weaker then the other. I was impress what Xbox One had to offer and that goes for PS4. I'll be skipping Scorpio and if I wanted raw power, my high-end PC can give me that already.

Yes, I'm exactly with you. I'm not a fan of the console upgrades or buying a new expensive console to play the exact same games I can play today.

I'll get the Xbox 4 though, as it will presumably have new games not available to play on my Xbone, but see myself skipping over the console.5 machines.

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@SolidTy said:

@NeonicTrash: The 360 comparison doesn't fly because those games are different skus and a different entire library than the Xbone. They were different generations with their own games. The 360 released in 2005, the Xbone in 2013, and they play different games. Different games for consumers to buy off the wall of the game/retail store. The Xbone Scorpio plays Xbone games off the shelf, it is an Xbone designed for 4K and plays the Xbone games available today.

Whether Xbox execs and Phil Spencer are lying about the future of the Scorpio is one thing you are free to believe, but what we do know is that day one the Xbone Scorpio will only play the exact same Xbone games on the shelf for people to buy, much like the PS4 Pro plays PS4 games.

It's an Xbone.5 and it's library will be the exact same Xbone games we play today...with enhancements. I'll just save tons of money $$$ and continue to play my Xbone until a new Xbox comes out with a new generation of exclusive games that I can't play on my Xbone.

Different SKUs, but the caveat to that is they had to be cause the 360 was a Power PC and X1 is X86 architecture which presumably all future Xboxes will continue to be, to maintain backwards compatibility/game scaling features. Had the 360 and X1 been more similar, and had it not taken awhile for BC to come to X1, we may have actually seen games continue to come out labeled only as 360, that when put into a 1 would simply scale up in visuals and performance. Since that's exactly what we're about to see, with games only sporting the branding of the older, X1 console, but put into the new Scorpio, they are running better.

I never said anything about Spencer or Xbox execs LYING. I'm speculating and making predictions on what their long term plans are. Long term plans that've yet to be made public. Corporations, like politicians can and do change their mind and stances all the time. It's also possible that presently they have no plans to actually ever have Scorpio exclusive games but that could change AT ANY POINT, when they will simply announce a change in policy.

You say your saving tons of $ sitting out on the Scorpio, but then say you'd buy the next Xbox after that. With your lack of enthusiasm for Scorpio I'd presume you haven't upgraded to a 4k TV yet. For those of us who have, we want to game in 4k NOW. We want to see our already released X1 (and even 360 games) looking and performing the best they can THIS YEAR. We don't want to wait another 3-5 years for that experience. So that means you still have to get that, and then the new Xbox (whose primary feature I'd imagine is native 4k 60fps across the board for all titles from day 1)...so really, you are spending about the same as me in the long term. Got my 4k TV awhile back, getting the Scorpio this fall. And then I don't expect the next Xbox till maybe 4 or more years from this year? A long time to wait to upgrade your console.

If a major dev comes to MS and wants to make them an exclusive, but it can ONLY run on Scorpio, and we're talking let's say 1-3 years from now, and it'd be a great money making game for MS, you really think MS is gonna be like no, sorry, we said some things in 2016 we can never go back on no matter what. I just don't see that happening.

Also I'm sticking with my theory till proven otherwise that the games that come out for the Xbox after Scorpio may still be playable on a Scorpio, just at lower settings, thereby extending the lifespan of the console and giving more value to my planned Scorpio investment. MS is not just going to abandon support for Scorpio within 3-4 years after release at the same time it drops support for the original X1. It's specs will still be viable enough to be receiving new games, even if they are downgraded from what's running on the newest Xbox.