Aspects of DLC you hate/love

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#1 RavageGT
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This is a topic for people that want to post what they love/hate about DLC and how specific games have utilized it.

"Crimes" of DLC

Resident Evil 5- this is pretty much the most obvious choice of the problems with DLC, because Capcom saw DLC as abusable. Street Fighter costume packs were overpriced, but it wasn't a big of a deal that you just didn't get an additional costume for the characters. What was ridiculous though was charging 5$ on DLC (concent that was already actually built into the game). Versus mode wasn't going "above and beyond the scope" of the Resident Evil 5 experience at all.

Halo Wars - The "strategic opputunities" DLC had just came out today, and it offered three additional game modes for....not for free...not 200 points...not 400 points...but 800 microsoft points. I don't even know if Robot entertainment had already set the prices for the DLC or if it was Microsoft, but I wasn't expecting the price of a map pack. Also, I did like Halo Wars but it was certainly in need of more content, and 800 points just for 3 mere game modes is defidently pushing it.

The "Gifts" of DLC

Battlefield Bad Company - Battlefield Bad Company strayed away from their initial conquest mode, and they realized that with the small number of players, they would want to concentrate where fighting was taking place and they decided to make an assault/defend game mode called Gold Rush. However with much demand from Battlefield Fans, DICE actually listened to their fans and they decided to grant Conquest Mode DLC. In addition to the eight (big maps) that came with the initial game, conquest mode and DICE created 8 maps that were specifically devoted to conquest mode. This was defidently a great act commited by DICE.

Burnout Paradise - Free updates that improve the graphics an add other features, and NEW BIKES. Need I say more?

Those are my high/low opinions on DLC, what are your thoughts?

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#2 eagles_band
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I hate how those who love the game and get the DLC right away are shafted, when later a retail version of the game is released.

EXample - GOW2 - EPIC is releasing all the maps and some new ones with a campaign chapter for 20 bucks. For those who already bought the maps are getting screwed. 7 maps and a chapter of campaign is not worth 20 bucks.

Bethesda has been skimping on DLC. 10 bucks for a couple hours of play. But I love the Lost & Damned DLC. Overall, I like DLC, it adds to the game.

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#3 moose_knuckler
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I hate how those who love the game and get the DLC right away are shafted, when later a retail version of the game is released.

EXample - GOW2 - EPIC is releasing all the maps and some new ones with a campaign chapter for 20 bucks. For those who already bought the maps are getting screwed. 7 maps and a chapter of campaign is not worth 20 bucks.

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I'm pretty sure they mentioned something about splitting up costs of it like the new 7 maps and chapter of campaign you can buy seperate.

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#4 ShinZero
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I refuse to pay for things that I believe should already have been included in the game. Capcom loves to do this so much. SF4 and RE5 are prime examples of how to royally screw up some DLC. (Though I give them credit on championship mode being free)

Look at Valve's Left 4 Dead. L4D shipped missing 2 of the 4 availible campaignsfor versus mode. There was still plenty of gameplay to be had. I felt like I got more then my moneys worth out of that game before they updated it. Sure enough though, Valve completes the versus mode AND adds a new Survival mode. (Plus a new smallmap exclusive to survival mode) They did this all for free to make Left 4 Dead atruly complete package. It makes getting nickled and dimed for something like alternate costumes all the more annoying.

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#5 scouttrooperbob
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I Find DLC a way to expand the gameplay What I hate is Having to buy microsoft points and then buying it. I also hate how somtimes people give up on the original maps (witch are typicly better) I also hate how some games make you buy it to play sertain games. I also wasted 20 bucks on downloadable content for call of duty3. No body plays on the dlc in that game. Im okay with downloadable content but if there going to make bad maps It better be free or I better be paying for somthing awsome

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#6 SpinoRaptor24
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Love: New content that expands the game. Hate: When it's overpriced.
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#7 dirtydishko2
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I hate that DLC has become almost a must-have feature, a gaurunteed way to increase profits down the road.
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#8 eagles_band
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[QUOTE="eagles_band"]

I hate how those who love the game and get the DLC right away are shafted, when later a retail version of the game is released.

EXample - GOW2 - EPIC is releasing all the maps and some new ones with a campaign chapter for 20 bucks. For those who already bought the maps are getting screwed. 7 maps and a chapter of campaign is not worth 20 bucks.

moose_knuckler

I'm pretty sure they mentioned something about splitting up costs of it like the new 7 maps and chapter of campaign you can buy seperate.

Nope, I wish they did. They did split up the new maps and chapter into a package, thats 1600 points, which = 20 bucks. Its 20 bucks no matter what.

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#9 gatsbythepig
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I hate nickel and diming DLC like horse armor.

I love new content without paying for a whole new game, such asadded map packs for online shooters and GTAIV, Oblivionstyle expansions packs.

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#10 gr8scott
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I dislike the DLC when it's not used correctly. For example, RE5 versus and the Street Fighter costumes. First of all, the content is already on the disc. You already have the disc! Therefore, you already have the content. In addition, was something like RE5 versus mode really a neccessity to have? Street Fighter 4 outfits? Fighter games like SC4 and VF5 allow you to fully customize characters without the price of DLC. Even with the alternate outfits you still can't fully customize any Street Fighter character. You can't adjust their hair, boots, or accessories like you can in games like Tekken, Soulcalibur, and Virtua Fighter have all allowed you to have a lot of control when you customize the character. Capcom is definitely abusing the DLC. I wouldn't be surprised if they charged you M$ points to advance to the next chapter in the game. Lastly, I have to say the way you buy themes are shady. Say for example, you really like Halo or some game and you think it would be awesome to have the theme on your XBox. Not only do you have to pay M$ points for the theme, but you can't even preview to see what it looks like. Is it really that hard to add a few screenshots to preview the theme? Gamers would probably more likely save their M$ points for maps, arcade games, or game addons than spend 250 for a theme that only they can see. I may sound really cheap, but I believe the only DLC that is truly worth the price is the Shivering Isles. You get A LOT from that expansion; well more than 20+ hours of new content and armor/weapons. That's not to say that there isn't good DLC available. Fallout 3 content, COD maps and such are all great; but I believe that Shivering Isles offers more than any other DLC available.
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I hate how those who love the game and get the DLC right away are shafted, when later a retail version of the game is released.

EXample - GOW2 - EPIC is releasing all the maps and some new ones with a campaign chapter for 20 bucks. For those who already bought the maps are getting screwed. 7 maps and a chapter of campaign is not worth 20 bucks.

Bethesda has been skimping on DLC. 10 bucks for a couple hours of play. But I love the Lost & Damned DLC. Overall, I like DLC, it adds to the game.

eagles_band

But those people getting "screwed" have had the content for a long time already - THAT is the benefit they receive. This is hardly a new trend in gaming; Oblivion released several DLC pieces that eventually were incorporated into a Game of the Year Edition for less than the total amount, but again time had passed and the value was decreased.

It's like paying $19.99 for a brand new movie on it's release day and then complaining that's $9.99 eight months later. That's the way things work and it's an attempt to get people who weren't initially interested in getting the content to pony up and pay.

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While I enjoy being able to download new content for games, there hasn't been a lot out there that's seemed worth it. I also wonder how much releasing separate small add on packages might take away from a larger more worthwhile expansion. The Fallout 3 add ons so far have been fairly mediocre, though they have some cool weapons and what not, but they've been a bit small in scope for my taste. I'd much rather pay for a larger $30 download that has considerably more content than a few unrelated small explorable areas with a few new quests.

I'm less annoyed with purchasing the smallish downloads like new multiplayer maps, new weapon sets, etc.

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#13 vashkey
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I like how it adds to a game. but the pricing is almost always unfair. Kinda like Strategic options for Halo Wars. theres nothing fair about it. I've got updates for other games that gave me new game modes for free. Why the hell is three game modes priced at ten dollars? I pity the fool who buys Strategic Options.
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#14 DamianAlexander
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*Cough cough* I don't care how much it cost, I don't care if it's the biggest rip off ever known to man, I don't even care that it'll come out for free in a year... If they attach brand spanking new Achievements... I can't help myself. I'm an addict...

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#15 seankane
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[QUOTE="eagles_band"]

I hate how those who love the game and get the DLC right away are shafted, when later a retail version of the game is released.

EXample - GOW2 - EPIC is releasing all the maps and some new ones with a campaign chapter for 20 bucks. For those who already bought the maps are getting screwed. 7 maps and a chapter of campaign is not worth 20 bucks.

Bethesda has been skimping on DLC. 10 bucks for a couple hours of play. But I love the Lost & Damned DLC. Overall, I like DLC, it adds to the game.

Large_Soda

But those people getting "screwed" have had the content for a long time already - THAT is the benefit they receive. This is hardly a new trend in gaming; Oblivion released several DLC pieces that eventually were incorporated into a Game of the Year Edition for less than the total amount, but again time had passed and the value was decreased.

It's like paying $19.99 for a brand new movie on it's release day and then complaining that's $9.99 eight months later. That's the way things work and it's an attempt to get people who weren't initially interested in getting the content to pony up and pay.

Exactly. This goes with almost anything. Buying a computer, buying a car, buying shoes, etc. You can either pay full-price to get them when they first come out, or you can be patient and wait, knowing that the price will eventually come down.

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While I enjoy being able to download new content for games, there hasn't been a lot out there that's seemed worth it. I also wonder how much releasing separate small add on packages might take away from a larger more worthwhile expansion. The Fallout 3 add ons so far have been fairly mediocre, though they have some cool weapons and what not, but they've been a bit small in scope for my taste. I'd much rather pay for a larger $30 download that has considerably more content than a few unrelated small explorable areas with a few new quests.

I'm less annoyed with purchasing the smallish downloads like new multiplayer maps, new weapon sets, etc.

BobZany

Thats my biggest gripe. I just wish they'd work on larger DLC packs that really add to the 'fullness' of the game. I dont mind paying $20 or $30 for a true expansion. It just sucks that this is not the best way for them to make money, so they dont do it. $10 for a few maps in Call of Duty is hardly a fair price, but they know people will pay it, and its worth it for many of us. But still, we could be getting more. Imagine if they just came out with a large multiplayer expansion that involved new game modes and like 15 new maps or something. I'd be very willing to pay $25 or something for it.

As someone else pointed out - The Shivering Isles for Oblivion is a great example of how DLC should be done in an ideal world.

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#17 Skudd78
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I really don't mind DLC's although i was really hopeing Bethesda would step up there DLC's on fallout 3 and realease something like Shivering Isles,Or a seprate campain mode where you start as a ghoul or super mutant and can level up as one of them in a 5-10 hour campain with side quests or something and connect the storyline with the vault dwellers.

What i really hate though is thoose games where there is a 3 hour campain in the actual game and they charge you 50$ for it.

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#18 rp108
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I just can't stand it when download content is overpriced. But also, the prices are unbalanced. The Last Remnant download content is free and you get an entire new location and new formations. But then Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion charges for horse armor.

I would rather have it overpriced then not at all but I guess it kind of equals out if you take advantage of the stuff that is free.

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Love = fixing game glitches Hate = those fixes cause new game glitches, and of course overpricing for little content(a map or two, or costumes/characters)
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#20 deactivated-5c37d3adcd094
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I love that it gives developers a chance to add to games after the games development cycle is over.

I hate that it gets abused, and lack-luster DLC is just thrown together. Also, I wish stuff would get priced in real money rather than MS points, it would mean that stuff wouldn't have to be priced at stupid set increments for the sake of making them nice round figures and would allow devs to accurately price thier content.

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#21 ghost5891
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i hate that dlc is pretty muched over priced. but i definitly love that it extends my games to be longer. i can't buy new games to often so to buy 1600 microsoft points for dlcor a used game now and then, that's great to me.

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#22 mattg90520
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i love dlc. for games like fallout 3, it lets the devs do what they may not normally. for one, they get to fix, or rather amend, problems, like the story's ending. it also lets them do more. they dont have to rush something or delay the game to get the product out. we got to see the pitt because of this. they also try things they may not, like the two new dlcs coming out. the devs said they were both ideas they were throwing around; now theyre getting made into actual games... or dlc rather
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#24 starwa1ker
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Most of them aren't worth the price, except for Lost and Damned. That was an awesome add-on.
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Love. Things i love about DLC is the expansion packs, i love expansion packs in games like GTA 4, Fallout 3, Oblivion, and others that i like in the game. I also like stuff that makes the game worth it, like new gametypes in the game or someting, kinda like "Survival" mode from L4D, just more gametypes with fun stuff in it.

Hate. I hate how some DLC you have to buy the Maps to order to play some stuff (Im talking to you Halo 3.) and thats ridiculous, especially if its 800 Microsoft points and its 3 maps! Cmon bro. I also hate Glitches in DLC when its suppose to be fix in the first place. I epecially hate how you have to buy 400 Microsoft points (I think) to order to play some multiplayer in some games (Im talking to you Resident Evil 5, the only game that does this cr@p).

Thats all i have to say.