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#1 iamnessie
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Albert Penello: Very few people were actually using the functuality, and the programming team's resources could be spent better elsewhere. One day it would probably stop. And I think that's going to be hard for people because they're going to feel like nobody was listening.

:(

i always play my original Xbox games. And have been making a list of games to buy that i was looking forward to playing.

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#2 Glitchhawk
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I'm still crying about no Morrowind... there was post after post and petetions and everything for it and Microsoft still hasnt put it on BC/XBO.
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#3 Zweihand
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I'd never get rid of my original Xbox, for the following reasons:

Otogi

Otogi 2

Steel Battalion

Also, Morrowind was far superior on PC.

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#4 BurnsOfRage
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I'm still crying about no Morrowind... there was post after post and petetions and everything for it and Microsoft still hasnt put it on BC/XBO. Glitchhawk
I was playing morrowind on my xbox360 this morning
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[QUOTE="Glitchhawk"]I'm still crying about no Morrowind... there was post after post and petetions and everything for it and Microsoft still hasnt put it on BC/XBO. BurnsOfRage
I was playing morrowind on my xbox360 this morning

Ya I was just thinking that...isnt morrowwind on the BC?
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#6 BurnsOfRage
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Must be.. like I said.. I was playing it earlier
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#7 krovak0000
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I just don't understand how it's not already compatiable, 360 is a better system yet older games dont work? Go figure, wish microsoft could do SOMETHING right
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#8 K1LLR3175
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Morrowind and the GOTY edition is 100% BC,
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#9 GANGSTASAN
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At least they are doing a better job than Sony....
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#10 SpikedStrider
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I used to care about BC, but now not so much anymore. I still think they should finish the job on that for all the retro gamers out there.
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#11 K1LLR3175
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I just don't understand how it's not already compatiable, 360 is a better system yet older games dont work? Go figure, wish microsoft could do SOMETHING rightkrovak0000
Let me help you understand.The 360 has new hardware in it.Thus meaning to get original Xbox titles to work they need to be emulated.These emulations make up for the lack of hardware.Microsoft did something very right.They could have said nope,we are not even going to try.They did the best they could and we got a huge list of playable games.Be Thankful...or don't I don't care.
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#12 Relived
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I just don't understand how it's not already compatiable, 360 is a better system yet older games dont work? Go figure, wish microsoft could do SOMETHING rightkrovak0000

MS does not have the rights to put the original Xbox GPU inside the 360 and since they switch GPU chipsets from Nvidia to ATI they have to pay royalties to have Xbox hardware emulated. MS has gotten quite a few things right btw; you are playing their console. Not saying any entity is perfect but MS is not evil,

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#13 krovak0000
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I see I see, I didn't know all the details so thx for the info! I still dont like microsoft no matter what system I play though sir, so saying that is irrelevant, they have messed up coding for years and I thought that's what caused this,

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I see I see, I didn't know all the details so thx for the info! I still dont like microsoft no matter what system I play though sir, so saying that is irrelevant, they have messed up coding for years and I thought that's what caused this,

krovak0000
Well that is your personal opinion and I ask you nicely to not let that blind you from seeing that they did try to give the gamers what they wanted.Now I don't like everything they do either but I can give them respect on that.
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I like to play old xbox games, like Halo 1 and 2, but also San andreas. Its a lot of fun, but i think a lot of people who play old xbox games dont play online, so they do not know a lot of people play it.
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#16 BurnsOfRage
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Why should we expect the 360 to be backwards compatible anyway? Its only detracts from the development of the next generation of consoles if one of the remits is it must play older games. The best advice is hold onto your old console then you wont be disappointed. Plus give it 5 or 6 years and there will be workable 360 emulators on the pc..
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#17 krovak0000
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[QUOTE="krovak0000"]

I see I see, I didn't know all the details so thx for the info! I still dont like microsoft no matter what system I play though sir, so saying that is irrelevant, they have messed up coding for years and I thought that's what caused this,

K1LLR3175

Well that is your personal opinion and I ask you nicely to not let that blind you from seeing that they did try to give the gamers what they wanted.Now I don't like everything they do either but I can give them respect on that.

Very kind of you sir, and I do agree, you are correct

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#18 K1LLR3175
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[QUOTE="K1LLR3175"][QUOTE="krovak0000"]

I see I see, I didn't know all the details so thx for the info! I still dont like microsoft no matter what system I play though sir, so saying that is irrelevant, they have messed up coding for years and I thought that's what caused this,

krovak0000

Well that is your personal opinion and I ask you nicely to not let that blind you from seeing that they did try to give the gamers what they wanted.Now I don't like everything they do either but I can give them respect on that.

Very kind of you sir, and I do agree, you are correct

Thank you.Not all people on these forums are crazed fight starters who can't respect others opinions.
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#19 looknostamp
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The 360 is my first departure from Nintendo, so backward compatibility isn't an issue for me. You guys should be happy with the 360 for what it is, though. Awesome games!
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#20 BurnsOfRage
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The 360 is my first departure from Nintendo, so backward compatibility isn't an issue for me. You guys should be happy with the 360 for what it is, though. Awesome games!looknostamp
Exactly.. backwards compatibility is a new thing in gaming.. and pointless too.. just hold onto your original console.
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#21 K1LLR3175
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[QUOTE="looknostamp"]The 360 is my first departure from Nintendo, so backward compatibility isn't an issue for me. You guys should be happy with the 360 for what it is, though. Awesome games!BurnsOfRage
Exactly.. backwards compatibility is a new thing in gaming.. and pointless too.. just hold onto your original console.

BC is not pointless.I am still hoping that Sony brings BC to the 40 gig PS3.I still have a PS2,but I hate switching between consoles over and over.
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#22 vashkey
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If I recall, Microsoft has officially finished making reverse compatibility patches. Most games are reverse compatible. To my knowledge the only note worthy games that are not compatible are Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance and Beyond Good and Evil. Not bad. I can't reallly complain though, I didn't play much of the original X-box. The only games I kept for it works on the 360, except when I bought Beyond good and Evil I was sad to see it wasnt compatible.
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#23 K1LLR3175
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One more I would like to add to the list.Odd World strangers wrath.I was abit disappointed when that did not make it.
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I used to care about BC, but now not so much anymore. I still think they should finish the job on that for all the retro gamers out there.SpikedStrider

yeah, I wish M$ would just finish the damn BC job already! But no they are instead wasting time and $ on Avatars and lame dashboard updates..........

I wanna play The Warriors on my xbox360 dammit!....hooking up my big old bulky xbox just to play that one game is a pain....not to mention i dont have component cables for my xbox, so the graphics look like garbage on an hdtv.

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#25 OfficialBed
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I'm still crying about no Morrowind... there was post after post and petetions and everything for it and Microsoft still hasnt put it on BC/XBO. Glitchhawk

umm...morrowind is backwards compatible....just not the game of the year edition

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#26 iamnessie
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Well all of the new consoles are BC so why not Microsoft? Wii plays Gamecube games, the fancy PS3's are backwards for PS2 and Ps1 games. Even the PS2 was BC with PS1 games.

The least they could do is add to the list to make it worth it to the people who have been waiting. i don't feel like having 2 xboxes hooked up when i can barely fit a 360 with the rest of my systems.

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#27 Avenger1324
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Well all of the new consoles are BC so why not Microsoft? Wii plays Gamecube games, the fancy PS3's are backwards for PS2 and Ps1 games. Even the PS2 was BC with PS1 games.iamnessie

Wrong

The first 60GB PS3 did have backwards compatibility, but that was stopped with the 40GB and now 80GB versions. Unless you can find a preowned 60GB PS3 you cannot play PS2 games on a PS3

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#28 K1LLR3175
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Part wrong and part right he is.All of the PS3s have Backwards compatibility with PS1 games.Only the 20,60 and original 80 gig have BC with both PS2 and PS1 titles.The 40,new 80 and 160 gig all have no PS2 BC support.And Morrowind Game of the year edition is Backwards compatible I believe.
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One more I would like to add to the list.Odd World strangers wrath.I was abit disappointed when that did not make it.K1LLR3175

dude that picture of the girl is amazing. who is that?

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[QUOTE="K1LLR3175"]One more I would like to add to the list.Odd World strangers wrath.I was abit disappointed when that did not make it.xgiantnomadx

dude that picture of the girl is amazing. who is that?

Not sure.I was looking on a site that was in complete spanish and there she was calling out to me lol.The wolf's name is wolfy.He is my pet.
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#32 iamnessie
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i don't get how that's true because my brother in law has a PS3 and he's able to play the 3 pack of GTA PS2 games.
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#33 BurnsOfRage
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i don't get how that's true because my brother in law has a PS3 and he's able to play the 3 pack of GTA PS2 games.iamnessie

I think this post will sort your question out

The first 60GB PS3 did have backwards compatibility, but that was stopped with the 40GB and now 80GB versions. Unless you can find a preowned 60GB PS3 you cannot play PS2 games on a PS3Avenger1324

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#34 K1LLR3175
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Well see the thing is Sony took out BC and a few other features like 4 USB slots and the card reader from the PS3s

These are the PS3s with 75-100% BC

  • 20 gig
  • 60 gig
  • Original 80 gig

These are the Consoles without BC.These are the consoles that are easy to find.

  • 40 gig
  • new 80 gig
  • 160 gig.
The 20,60,original 80 and 40 gig consoles have all been discontinued.
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#35 Keving7
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it makes me sad that timesplitters 2 or 3 arent on the backward comp. list. i had to resort to getting it forthe gamecube so i can play it on the wii.. the c stick SUCKS so much for FPS. :( its a sad day
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#36 damaster101
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I can't believe the warriors isn't compatible that was probably my top 1 game on the original xbox, all my other games are fine though.
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#37 FNKYMNK
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The 360 is my first departure from Nintendo, so backward compatibility isn't an issue for me. You guys should be happy with the 360 for what it is, though. Awesome games!looknostamp
Well said.
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#38 karriston
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One more I would like to add to the list.Odd World strangers wrath.I was abit disappointed when that did not make it.K1LLR3175
I was just about to post to say this. Stranger's Wrath NEEDS to be made backwards compatible. My xbox died a long time ago and I really want to play Stranger's Wrath, now THAT was a game!
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[QUOTE="Glitchhawk"]I'm still crying about no Morrowind... there was post after post and petetions and everything for it and Microsoft still hasnt put it on BC/XBO. OfficialBed

umm...morrowind is backwards compatible....just not the game of the year edition

Sorry to double-post, but the game of the year edition is backwards compatible.
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#40 K1LLR3175
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[QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

[QUOTE="Glitchhawk"]I'm still crying about no Morrowind... there was post after post and petetions and everything for it and Microsoft still hasnt put it on BC/XBO. karriston

umm...morrowind is backwards compatible....just not the game of the year edition

Sorry to double-post, but the game of the year edition is backwards compatible.

Yeah it is.It is not listed but you can play it.
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#41 iamnessie
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The least they could do is add a few more games to the list. If garbage like Drake and Kabuki Warriors are on there, then why not good games people will actually play? Them making those compatible were the real waste of time.
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#42 lil_d_mack_314
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I'm still crying about no Morrowind... there was post after post and petetions and everything for it and Microsoft still hasnt put it on BC/XBO. Glitchhawk
Morrowind is BC...and so is the GOTY edition!! i have it and love it..oh and its my fav. game so i def. know!

i wish they would atleast add a few more games to the list..or atleast on xbl originals.

my original wish list-

otogi, mafia, hitman-sa

my (our) best bet is probably just get an original xbox again.

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#43 mariokart64fan
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ya they waste time putting xbox originals on market place, but they dont update the bc list, this is bull microsoft i just want my timesplitters and driver series,

4 freaking games, thats all i ask , but i dont get because microsofts to busy with rares period lol

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#44 Beardie99
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My Halo 2 won't work for some reason. I even borrowed two different copies of it from two different friends and it still won't work on my Xbox 360. I have no idea why?