Banjo-Kazooie: Threeie SECRET DEMO LEAKED

HUGELY DISAPPOINTED. The ONLY transportation Banjo needs is Kazooie's ultra fit wings. NOW we're stuck with some 2nd rate racer that would have ZERO chance of success if it were'nt riding on the back of the Banjo-Kazooie name.

STRAIGHT CRAP! This absolutely sucks. So everyone, remember the first teaser trailer? RARE made us think it was Banjo 3 for the past 2 years. Now we are slapped square in the face with what they should just call Banjo-Pilot 2. This sucks. Absolutely sucks. HEY RARE, you ever hear of Mario Galaxy? Yeah, that is called nexgen platforming. That's what the new Banjo game should be. I'm not usually one to count chickens before they hatch, but this game is going to pale in to comparison to anything RARE could have done if they stuck to a true platformer. STUPID. Absolutely horribly stupid. What happened? Why did it take this long to make a friggin racer? For one, I am extremely upset. RARE, GIVE US BANJO-THREEIE!

RARE, look at the numbers:
Banjo-Kazooie Gamespot Score - 9.5
Banjo-Tooie Gamespot Score - 9.6
Banjo-Pilot (a not well known Banjo game) Gamespot Score - 7.2 Ok, are you ready RARE? Here's my prediction of the future.
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts (RARE should just call it Banjo-Pilot 2) Gamespot Score? - 7.5
Now here's what a majority of gamers wanted.
Banjo-Threeie Gamespot Score - 9.5

This is how you can tell the brothers who formed RARE left the company. Obviously they wanted nothing to do with the way things are going. Sucks they couldn't have taken Banjo with them.

Rare changes things up a little, people get nerd rage (TC is a fine example) If Rare had taken the original banjo formula and not done anything to it, people would bash it for being the same as the other banjo games.

You can't please everyone I guess.

Oh, and TC, you are so wrong about Banjo 3.

It's awe-inspiring that someone could be so mis-informed.

What is this racer you speak of?

If Rare had taken the original banjo formula and not done anything to it, people would bash it for being the same as the other banjo games.

You can't please everyone I guess.

Vis-a-Vis

Exactly. No matter what a dev does there will always be people basing it because they changed the game or didn't change it enough.

And until the TC actually plays the game he's just a fanboy barking in the dark.

Rare changes things up a little, people get nerd rage (TC is a fine example) If Rare had taken the original banjo formula and not done anything to it, people would bash it for being the same as the other banjo games.

You can't please everyone I guess.

Oh, and TC, you are so wrong about Banjo 3.

It's awe-inspiring that someone could be so mis-informed.

Vis-a-Vis

Actually most people want the formula not to change. When rare changes the formula their sequals or next installments for a lack of better words suck. PDZ for example... that needed to be Perfect Dark, but for the new gen. It turned out to be much worse (i love the game, but if i was able to choose between PD and PDZ i would choose PD anyday).

As of right now the Xbox 360 needs platformers right now, not racing games that are in a "platforming world".

The RAREWARE.com Website is a bit tricky to find any place to give RARE your feedback. But here's the editor's email address. Anyone with a opinion of disapointment and feels like we might just be getting a turd in place of a real Banjo 3, email this department. editor@rareware.com

How do we know the full game is racing???? COUld jus tbe one or two levels..

All the people screaming and crying need to step back and relize that the full game might not be like that, and that maybe we should wait and see how the game turns out.

THE WHOLE GAME DOESNT HAVE RACING IN IT, RELAX!

Kozzy, obviously the move RARE made was too far away from the standard views of platforming. Anyone with cerebral can tell the game has a large emphasis on vehicular usage. That is something you can tell people have a problem with. Now, quit belittling peoples opinions.robcox1980

You guys are jumping the gun, im just as big a fan as any of you of the series. But just based ona few pictures, you guys think its a Mario Kart type of game.

WHy not have an OPEN MIND and wait to play the game or wait until you actually get confirmation that its JUST A RACER and not a platformer. Ill be jsut as mad as you if the game actually is ALL RACING. But something is telling me that YOU are jumping the gun a bit early. Go cry me a river.

I never belittle someones opinion.. SO ONCE THE GAME IS OUT, I will listen to your opinion ON A GAME THAT YOU HAVE PLAYED. Until then you are just a fanboy screaming because of a few pictures, grow up....

Giving your opinion before a game is out is childish.

Kozzy, this is something that you can form a relatively accurate opinion on without playing the game. Look, it's along the same lines of knowing something like 9 out of 10 games based on movies suck. It's a safe bet that what your saying is "childish" premature assumptions, is actually a little more than ignorant nay-saying. Now please, stop trying to silence the 90 percent of people who don't like what they're seeing.robcox1980

You really are slow arnt you?

But keep bashing games that arnt even out yet little one, shows how childish you are.

Forming an opinion of a game before its even out is ridicolous, keep judging games before they come out and you will miss alot of great games.

Kameo demo sucked, but the full game was great... if i was as ignorant as you i would have said "THIS GAME IS TEH SUCKORZ! Just look at the demo! The gameplay sucks!" but when you actually play the full version you relize THE FULL game isnt all like the demo or screenshots where.

You are jumping the gun on the new Banjo its as simple as that.

If there was a quote from the people who made the game saying that the full game is a racing game, then yea i would be angry as well. But you could be wrong and maybe only one or two levels have cars in them.

You are like the people who judge a book by its cover or a movie by its preview, makes me sick.

i see why you're mad but can't you at least give it a chance? it's been YEARS, they must have done something wellpaullywog

They like to judge a book by its cover, sick really

Just sent this email to Editor@RAREWARE.com I invite anyone who didn't like what they seen today from RARE to put a drop in the bucket.

Thought you might be interested in the buzz going around following the game info released on May 13th. One of the most popular online gaming sites has a pretty solid stream of opinions that go something like this. If you do get time to REPLY to this email I would thoroughly enjoy having some assurance that the general consensus is wrong or fearing something that won't happen.

"
HUGELY DISAPPOINTED. The ONLY transportation Banjo needs is Kazooie's ultra fit wings. NOW we're stuck with some 2nd rate racer that would have ZERO chance of success if it were'nt riding on the back of the Banjo-Kazooie name.

STRAIGHT CRAP! This absolutely sucks. So everyone, remember the first teaser trailer? RARE made us think it was Banjo 3 for the past 2 years. Now we are slapped square in the face with what they should just call Banjo-Pilot 2. This sucks. Absolutely sucks. HEY RARE, you ever hear of Mario Galaxy? Yeah, that is called nexgen platforming. That's what the new Banjo game should be. I'm not usually one to count chickens before they hatch, but this game is going to pale in to comparison to anything RARE could have done if they stuck to a true platformer. STUPID. Absolutely horribly stupid. What happened? Why did it take this long to make a friggin racer? For one, I am extremely upset. RARE, GIVE US BANJO-THREEIE!

RARE, look at the numbers:
Banjo-Kazooie Gamespot Score - 9.5
Banjo-Tooie Gamespot Score - 9.6
Banjo-Pilot (a not well known Banjo game) Gamespot Score - 7.2 Ok, are you ready RARE? Here's my prediction of the future.
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts (RARE should just call it Banjo-Pilot 2) Gamespot Score? - 7.5
Now here's what a majority of gamers wanted.
Banjo-Threeie Gamespot Score - 9.5

This is how you can tell the brothers who formed RARE left the company. Obviously they wanted nothing to do with the way things are going. Sucks they couldn't have taken Banjo with them.

Robcox1980"

ANOTHER POST:

g33zer writes-

"You have actually ruined my life, i cant believe this heap of stinking crap ive just read. What is wrong with the Banjo games as they are but now you add cars, bloody cars. No one wanted this pile of **** to go near their 360, i WANT platform games back to their origins games like Donkey Kong 64, Banjo Kazooie and Tooie not a game that could possibly be a system seller for some people turned into a gimmicky piece of trash.

Since Nintendo i had alot of respect for Rare (with their 'kids' type games) and then they moved to microsoft big mistake, (btw i love my 360 just dont believe it to be the console they should dedicate their games too) Kameo came out and it was mediocre, i knew Rare was going down hill, then they produced something like Viva Pinata, i thought this was amazing, graphics were awesome gameplay was fun and original and i had alot of hope for Banjo 3, NOW WHERE AM I LEFT, NUTS AND BOLTS, if i wanted to build a car id buy lego or go to a garage, not go to my favourite child hood game!!!!

Rare has gone downhill since leaving Nintendo, now im going to have to buy a N64 to have a little bit of a child hood memory left with me. Sorry if i seem like im ranting on but i am dearly disapointed with what i have read and seen, i wish to know how other people are feeling right now. People who played the all time great platforming games on there nintendo and wanted a sequel to live up to them.

Thanks alot, btw im also sorry about the swearing i tried to edit ikt my hardest but im half asleep.

Ps. Is there ever going to be a Donkey Kong 64 sequel??"

Clearly something isn't ringing true with your loyal fans of the series. Seriously, companies like RARE have huge responsibilites when it comes to keeping roots held firm in the past and having your branches reaching skyward to the future. You know what we want from Banjo-Kazooie. We wanted a nexgen platformer that would have knocked Mario off the face of the Galaxy. It's extremely obvious that there's a large emphasis on vehicular usage with the new Banjo, and quite frankly, we don't want it.

True and Sincere,
Rob Cox
Age 27
Gamer for 21 Years.

My top 5 games of all time:

1.) Oblivion
2.) Forza 2
3.) Banjo-Kazooie (part 1)
4.) Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
5.) Rallisport Challenge 2

They said it will still have the signature single player platformer with a twist. The twist being the racing aspect of it. When did they say it will be a "racer?" This isnt Mario Kart. Stop jumping to conclusions. This will be fun because then, there will be more replayability and you can probably battle it out online with your friends. You can create your own vehicle. That sounds pretty fun to me.

It may not seem like it, but I believe there is alot more to this game than just the vehicles. They are just showing this off because it's something new. Besides it was a racer it could still be pretty enjoyable as Diddy Kong Racing was very solid.

italian hammer. I've played GTA 4 and yes, I know, it's utterly amazing, groundbreaking, and dynamically superior in so many ways.......and this is being said by someone (myself) who hates the gta series. :)

well to anyone who thinks it might not be that bad, you know, just a couple racing levels, not too much vehicle stuff. here you go, straight from the jaws of RARE: and I quote, "However, things are a bit different this time around. The core gameplay mechanic - and the method by which worlds are traversed, challenges tackled and progress made - is the creation and customisation of vehicles, using components found, bought and won throughout Showdown Town."

That's it, if anyone doubted that we're really getting a game that is going to pretty much ignore what made BK 1 and 2 so great, you can rest assure, we're not getting what we were hoping for.

well to anyone who thinks it might not be that bad, you know, just a couple racing levels, not too much vehicle stuff. here you go, straight from the jaws of RARE: and I quote,

"However, things are a bit different this time around. The core gameplay mechanic - and the method by which worlds are traversed, challenges tackled and progress made - is the creation and customisation of vehicles, using components found, bought and won throughout Showdown Town."

That's it, if anyone doubted that we're really getting a game that is going to pretty much ignore what made BK 1 and 2 so great, you can rest assure, we're not getting what we were hoping for.

Rare changes things up a little, people get nerd rage (TC is a fine example) If Rare had taken the original banjo formula and not done anything to it, people would bash it for being the same as the other banjo games.

You can't please everyone I guess.

Oh, and TC, you are so wrong about Banjo 3.

It's awe-inspiring that someone could be so mis-informed.

Vis-a-Vis

I lawled at "nerd rage", so true.

I wanted an adventure game, not a racer. Oh well.ag1002

everyone keeps saying, "don't jump to conclusions," and "wait till it comes out before you say you don't like the gameplay mechanics." Well here's the simplicity of it -

straight from the jaws of RARE: and I quote,

"However, things are a bit different this time around. The core gameplay mechanic - and the method by which worlds are traversed, challenges tackled and progress made - is the creation and customisation of vehicles, using components found, bought and won throughout Showdown Town."

ok, after reading that I can say I don't like them changing the "core gameplay mechanics" to a vehicular based game. and there will be lots of original fans who want the original "core gameplay mechancis"

That's it, if anyone doubted that we're really getting a game that is going to pretty much ignore what made BK 1 and 2 so great, you can rest assure, we're not getting BK 3.

comelstar, listen, here's a site link. http://www.rareware.com/ go ahead over, if you want to arm yourself with some knowledge, before firing away blanks accusing me of not knowing something. Try not to make this too hard. Here, I'll turn it into a math equation.

Banjo 1 and 2 core gameplay mechanics (we'll call this "a") = what lots of people wanted from Banjo 3, that was Banjo 1 and 2 trademark fun factor.

Rare's new "The core gameplay mechanic - and the method by which worlds are traversed, challenges tackled and progress made - is the creation and customisation of vehicles" (and this will be "b") = what lots of people are getting instead of the core original fun stuff.

so knowing those to things all we have to do is setup the formula:

(a) - Banjo 3 + (b) = BOO!

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]From what i read from gamespot, and rare, it seems to me that its the same platformer, but now you have to use more than kazooie's abilities (flying, smashing stuff, the little double jump move) to get from point A to B, so you must now build these contraptions to help you. This seems like a very fun idea IMO. And also this aspect of the game is featured in the multiplayer, or so RARE says. But i think everyone needs to stop crying, were gonna have our Banjo back. No doubt about it.magicalclick

It seems like the platformer part is only locating more parts or something. The game feels largely revolve around viechel driving and building.

My source (Wikipedia) says there will be 6 worlds, each with 15 objectives to complete. I'm assuming that the reward for completing an objective is still a Jiggy but I dont know. Nevertheless, you'll have to use a mixture of old platforming elements and the new vehicle design to complete each objective. There will be less Banjo-Kazooie moves, but that's made up for with the vehicles. Also there might be new Banjo-Kazooie moves such as using Kazooie's beak to break down a wall. So it seems to me like the game is still based around platforming, though I wouldn't be surprised to find certain objectives that require you to race someone, and that racing is mostly reserved for online play.

From what i read from gamespot, and rare, it seems to me that its the same platformer, but now you have to use more than kazooie's abilities (flying, smashing stuff, the little double jump move) to get from point A to B, so you must now build these contraptions to help you. This seems like a very fun idea IMO. And also this aspect of the game is featured in the multiplayer, or so RARE says. But i think everyone needs to stop crying, were gonna have our Banjo back. No doubt about it.MLBknights58

Yeah MLBknights you're right. We're getting Banjo back, and they are integrating a pretty cool aspect into the game. This is especially true for the Forza 2 customizers out there, and the like. But is it ok that I personally want my core gameplay dynamics back, instead of vehicular based building that I have no choice but to focus as a main point of the game?