Battlefield 3 beta blows

I just started playing the BF3 beta and I'm definitely disappointed. Just a disclaimer: this is not because I "suck". I lead the first 3 games I played with about 20-25 kills per match....just thought I needed to address that.

My grievances are as follows:

1) The aiming mechanics are **** The support and engineer class machine guns are nearly un-usable. It's impossible to track an enemy and kill them.

2) The 2nd round of M-COM stations on Metro are too difficult. Regardless of whether I'm ATTACK or DEFEND, the match always ALWAYS ended at this stage.

3) The shotgun is overpowered. Honestly 10-15 of my kills each round were from using the shotgun in the 2nd round of M-COM stations. One hit kill every time.

4) Prone. I was very excited about this when it was announced.... in practice, however, it definitely takes away from the game. Attackers will eventually never be able to win a round because of this. Once the skill levels even out, the defenders who go prone at the M-COMs will always win. I honestly think they should remove this.

5) Recon class. In the first set of stations, recon completely dominates if you're a defender. When defending I would just use recon on the first round, and shotgun engineer in the station (if it got that far). Either change up the landscape of metro level or fix the aiming mechanics for assault, support, engineer.

That is all.

dont be stupid dude, ITS A BETA...the point of it is so they can fix crap that doesnt need to be in the game

laliberte11

This is actually a promotional beta. Unlike the Halo: Reach beta, this demo is to raise ad sales more than it is to fix any major game problems. Other than server problems and minor bugs, there isn't enough time to change game mechanics or anything of large scale.

[QUOTE="laliberte11"]

dont be stupid dude, ITS A BETA...the point of it is so they can fix crap that doesnt need to be in the game

SenorPickle

This is actually a promotional beta. Unlike the Halo: Reach beta, this demo is to raise ad sales more than it is to fix any major game problems. Other than server problems and minor bugs, there isn't enough time to change game mechanics or anything of large scale.

[QUOTE="SenorPickle"]

[QUOTE="laliberte11"]

dont be stupid dude, ITS A BETA...the point of it is so they can fix crap that doesnt need to be in the game

laliberte11

This is actually a promotional beta. Unlike the Halo: Reach beta, this demo is to raise ad sales more than it is to fix any major game problems. Other than server problems and minor bugs, there isn't enough time to change game mechanics or anything of large scale.

The Gears 3 beta took place 5 months before the release of the game. This is taking place like, uh, three weeks?

Between finalising the code, printing the discs and shipping them off to retailers, it doesn't leave a whole lotta time for bug fixes and balancing.

It's a promotional beta, nothing else.

[QUOTE="laliberte11"][QUOTE="SenorPickle"]

This is actually a promotional beta. Unlike the Halo: Reach beta, this demo is to raise ad sales more than it is to fix any major game problems. Other than server problems and minor bugs, there isn't enough time to change game mechanics or anything of large scale.

balfe1990

The Gears 3 beta took place 5 months before the release of the game. This is taking place like, uh, three weeks?

Between finalising the code, printing the discs and shipping them off to retailers, it doesn't leave a whole lotta time for bug fixes and balancing.

It's a promotional beta, nothing else.

[QUOTE="SenorPickle"]

[QUOTE="laliberte11"]

dont be stupid dude, ITS A BETA...the point of it is so they can fix crap that doesnt need to be in the game

laliberte11

This is actually a promotional beta. Unlike the Halo: Reach beta, this demo is to raise ad sales more than it is to fix any major game problems. Other than server problems and minor bugs, there isn't enough time to change game mechanics or anything of large scale.

I don't know what Gears 3 your playing, but both shotguns are the same from the beta.

My impression of the beta? It's horse crap. What the hell is up with dice and trying to feed the MW fans. BF isn't MW. Stop trying to be MW. Who the hell plays BF with no harriers/choppers/vehicles/tanks/etc. Only the MW noobs who no nothing of battlefield will actually have a chance to like this garbage they just released. Simply put, "rush" is a glorified 32 player version of "demolition" in MW2. Only problem is, MW2 demolition is actually more fun than this crap with only 12 players. Give me the real Battlefield, not this ****. If I want to play MW I'll play MW.

Im canceling my pre-order because of this beta, i cant believe they hyped the graphics engine and mocked MW then release this beta that looks no better than bad company 2, if anyone is going to buy this game its got to be on PC because thats were dice put all the love....ComBaTsOuL

Who cares about the graphics? The game plays awesome. And remember, you're basing your opinions on a single map that has no vehicles at all so the other maps will play completely differently.

Its only a beta, by the time the real game comes out, it'll be all better and fixed.

Dude, lots of game beta's tend to have broken bugs in them.

I actually had this on pre-order but I cancelled that and pre-ordered Dark Souls for my PS3 instead. I did that before the Beta was released but honestly I think I made the right decision now. I am going to wait for the full release of the game first and see how that fares. I think the colors are too cartoon-like. Granted some of this may change with the full release, I'm not expecting much since the release date is only a few weeks away.

I can't even play it ... tried this afternoon and just now to "lost connection to EA online" messages.

No other issues in other games. :(

[QUOTE="laliberte11"]

dont be stupid dude, ITS A BETA...the point of it is so they can fix crap that doesnt need to be in the game

This is actually a promotional beta. Unlike the Halo: Reach beta, this demo is to raise ad sales more than it is to fix any major game problems. Other than server problems and minor bugs, there isn't enough time to change game mechanics or anything of large scale.

Its only a beta, by the time the real game comes out, it'll be all better and fixed.

Dude, lots of game beta's tend to have broken bugs in them.

well i felt it was good as far as game mechanics go quite similar to bfbc2 .but not enough polish for my liking i hope beta is from an earlier built of the game because the game is not visually looking good

1.The controls are much improved over its predocessor, if you have issues aiming or leading a target its all you.
2.My team literally won every game defending and attacking, once again its all you. (even though it does bottleneck down there)
3.Its how its always been plus thats how it is in every game. Every used a shotgun in any other game?
4.Its a welocme addition along with vaulting.
5.Also not another issue. Take cover and move around problem solved.

There are most definitely issues but nothing of what you mentioned...

dont be stupid dude, ITS A BETA...the point of it is so they can fix crap that doesnt need to be in the game

laliberte11

Im canceling my pre-order because of this beta, i cant believe they hyped the graphics engine and mocked MW then release this beta that looks no better than bad company 2, if anyone is going to buy this game its got to be on PC because thats were dice put all the love....ComBaTsOuL

This is a perfect example of how DICE messed up. I hadn't pre-ordered because I was waiting for the beta, but if I had, I would have been right there with you. Including me, DICE has lost 3 customers in this thread alone because of this crap. I love Battlefield, but I refuse to pay $60 for this game now.

Promotional Beta experiment failed IMHO.

P.S. Stop trolling this thread and saying "it's just you". We addressed this in the original post, let's keep it together kids.

I can't even play it ... tried this afternoon and just now to "lost connection to EA online" messages.

No other issues in other games. :(

Aaron89

yep same here! I even put in medal of honor which is another ea game to make sure it wasnt my end... its something wrong with the battlefield servers because medal of honor works fine....

I've had only one gameplay issue where I seemed to be lagging (at least I rubberbanded around evertime I moved) but my aiming and firing was oddly not hindered. As long as I was stationary it was fine.

Graphics I occasionally get these weird green wireframe pop-ins that appear to be things on the other side of the walls. Also some odd lines at about the upper 3/4 of the screen where everything seems to overlap. Only other complaint here is my issue with 90% of games... shadows... plants throw shadows that hilight ever single leaf and twig in sharp lines. THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN NATURE. I know they do it to show how "crisp" they can make it look, but "crisp" and "real" don't always go together. if you are going to let the object cast shadows throw some kind of diffuser or some filter or other on the thing so the light fuzzes just a bit. *shrugs* perhaps thats just me.

Other than that I have rather enjoyed the beta. As far as the "beta" argument I am in the camp that thinks this feels like an old build, too much is graphically unpolished while gameplay is spot on for it to be anything else. Even the ad footage we see says its from a "pre-alpha" build. *shrugs*

Can you enter the prone position in the game? Also is the beta pure foot firefights or are there vehicles there too?Pittfan666

Yes there will be prone in campaign and in online multiplayer. There is only one map, Operation Metro, and there are no vehicle. Just infantry fighting.

I was MUCH more impressed with the Bad Company 2 beta than this. In fact, I think I'm going to cancel my preorder for this game. I'll just get MW3 for my shooter fix and then get a couple of RPGs.

So I've played some more and I've come to a conclusion. Had the beta never came out, there would be no question that I would have purchased BF3. Now that I've played the beta, I'm giving my money to Infinity Ward. The sad thing is, I liked Battlefield more that I liked playing CoD....

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="laliberte11"] well lets see, you complained about the OP shotgun, in gears 3 beta the shotgun was very OP and they fixed it, nuff saidohthemanatee

The Gears 3 beta took place 5 months before the release of the game. This is taking place like, uh, three weeks?

Between finalising the code, printing the discs and shipping them off to retailers, it doesn't leave a whole lotta time for bug fixes and balancing.

It's a promotional beta, nothing else.

That would be the point my man. You're a quick one...

I played it this morning and it was OK ... don't really understand the mass amounts of hate.The graphics aren't great, but the audio and scale are.

But, as I planned before, I'll be picking up MW3 instead of this game anyway -- just a preference.

Agreed, but not because I've actually played it. I downloaded it last night and couldn't get in because of server maintenance or some crap. This was all night for me; and I tried this morning and got the same bs message...great start for Dice and their excellent EA servers.

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[QUOTE="ComBaTsOuL"]Im canceling my pre-order because of this beta, i cant believe they hyped the graphics engine and mocked MW then release this beta that looks no better than bad company 2, if anyone is going to buy this game its got to be on PC because thats were dice put all the love....Matthew-first

Who cares about the graphics? The game plays awesome. And remember, you're basing your opinions on a single map that has no vehicles at all so the other maps will play completely differently.

You just made my point for me. Nintendo is dominating this console generation, and the graphics on the wii suck. Graphics in Dragon Age Origins were not great at best, but it's still one of my all-time favorite games. I also just recently replayed Zelda: OoT and didn't care that the graphics were utter crap because the game itself was amazing. So no, I really don't care about graphics. And everyone who says that the graphics of this or Crysis 2 are crap are either trying to start flame wars or just plain blind. Sure, Battlefield 3 on console may not look as good as the pc counterpart, but it still looks good and I don't have to dump $500+ into upgrading my pc just to play it.

i agree, the game is just terrible, clunky/sluggish/unresponsive controles, horrible shooting and inconsistant hit detection, if the final product is even remotely like this beta, it has 0 chance. and for graphics to be the selling point of this game, they look awfull.

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

[QUOTE="bessy67"]

Who cares about the graphics? The game plays awesome. And remember, you're basing your opinions on a single map that has no vehicles at all so the other maps will play completely differently.

bessy67

You just made my point for me. Nintendo is dominating this console generation, and the graphics on the wii suck. Graphics in Dragon Age Origins were not great at best, but it's still one of my all-time favorite games. I also just recently replayed Zelda: OoT and didn't care that the graphics were utter crap because the game itself was amazing. So no, I really don't care about graphics. And everyone who says that the graphics of this or Crysis 2 are crap are either trying to start flame wars or just plain blind. Sure, Battlefield 3 on console may not look as good as the pc counterpart, but it still looks good and I don't have to dump $500+ into upgrading my pc just to play it.

[QUOTE="SenorPickle"]

[QUOTE="laliberte11"]

dont be stupid dude, ITS A BETA...the point of it is so they can fix crap that doesnt need to be in the game

laliberte11

This is actually a promotional beta. Unlike the Halo: Reach beta, this demo is to raise ad sales more than it is to fix any major game problems. Other than server problems and minor bugs, there isn't enough time to change game mechanics or anything of large scale.

ur logic is flawless... /facepalm

if ur gonna imply someone is "stupid" make sure ur argument isnt more so

Did anyone even look at Battlefields twitter? The size Microsoft allows for "demos" including beta wasn't a big enough size so the developers cut alot of things out (graphics, physics ect) to keep the file size down. Look at the size of the Xbox beta compared to the PC beta. It's more than a full GIG of difference. Those complaining about graphics, these are not the fully polished graphics that the end game graphics are much more polished. Glitches that have been reported are already fixed in the end game. I'm definately keeping my pre order. Everyone else is just going to miss out.

Did anyone even look at Battlefields twitter? The size Microsoft allows for "demos" including beta wasn't a big enough size so the developers cut alot of things out (graphics, physics ect) to keep the file size down. Look at the size of the Xbox beta compared to the PC beta. It's more than a full GIG of difference. Those complaining about graphics, these are not the fully polished graphics that the end game graphics are much more polished. Glitches that have been reported are already fixed in the end game. I'm definately keeping my pre order. Everyone else is just going to miss out.

Gamefreak1296

i agree, the game is just terrible, clunky/sluggish/unresponsive controles, horrible shooting and inconsistant hit detection, if the final product is even remotely like this beta, it has 0 chance. and for graphics to be the selling point of this game, they look awfull.

JayQproductions

1. It's a Beta. Calm down.

2. The controls aren't sluggish or unresponsive at all.

3. Hit detection could use some work...I'm sure it will be fixed.

4. I think most people would prefer gameplay over graphics.

5. And one of the biggest points...MS has a limit on how big a demo/beta file is for Xbox Live. As someone previously stated, I'm guessing they had to cut a lot of things just to get within the required limit.

5. And one of the biggest points...MS has a limit on how big a demo/beta file is for Xbox Live. As someone previously stated, I'm guessing they had to cut a lot of things just to get within the required limit.

SexyPorkins

Since this is a dislike video, i'll list my Cons to the game. Though you can find my full opinion/Review of the gamein the link i have provided in my Signature, whe it appears, or use the link i have provided at the bottom of my response. Not trying to Advertise. Just if anyone is interested and wants to know my opinion..then great.

Anyways. My cons to the game, and this is my first battlefield experience in the series...first time playing any of the games....Are that some of the Machine guns are underpowered, yes i said it. Either that or inconsistent, because one time it will take a triple burst...and then the next it takes a full clip even though you're shooting them in the exact same spot. 2 is that in the Beta, they have found easy ways to spawn trap...Despite having multiple places to spawn. I got killed by the same sniper 6 times in a row spawning.....and i used all the different spawns you could use. And i hate that it forces you to take cover cause 90% of the time if you even think about running out in the open, you get picked off fairly easily...with like 2 bullets too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn0Uhbdfg8c

Its only a beta, by the time the real game comes out, it'll be all better and fixed.

Dude, lots of game beta's tend to have broken bugs in them.

Not false. Just because there are a couple of slightly larger files does not mean that MS doesn't have a required limit. SexyPorkins

Not false. Just because there are a couple of slightly larger files does not mean that MS doesn't have a required limit. SexyPorkins

EA has demos 700 mb larger on Xbox Live. So they aren't even close to the limit with BF3. So your conclusion is wrong.

adding higher resolution textures.... or full physics... would probably increase the file size a hell of a lot more than 700mb. the features are a package, and adding them probably would increase it beyond the size limit. you cant add 90% of a texture file and have it display properly/at all....or have 90% of a physics engine. its all or nothing. your conclusion is wrong.

[QUOTE="JayQproductions"]

i agree, the game is just terrible, clunky/sluggish/unresponsive controles, horrible shooting and inconsistant hit detection, if the final product is even remotely like this beta, it has 0 chance. and for graphics to be the selling point of this game, they look awfull.

SexyPorkins

1. It's a Beta. Calm down.

2. The controls aren't sluggish or unresponsive at all.

3. Hit detection could use some work...I'm sure it will be fixed.

4. I think most people would prefer gameplay over graphics.

5. And one of the biggest points...MS has a limit on how big a demo/beta file is for Xbox Live. As someone previously stated, I'm guessing they had to cut a lot of things just to get within the required limit.

the controls are very sluggish and unresponsive, half the time you try to run or crouch it won't let you and it's just plain dumb that you have to hit the A button to step over a train rail thats maybe 5 inches tall. And as for people prefering gameplay over graphics, this game does neither very well. I'd play COD over this JUST because of how smooth it feels compared to this crap.