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#1 Kickinurazz
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or the ONLY good rap song, but it is Cole Train Rap at the end of Gears, its too funny!
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#2 nickyb628
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My neighbor and I laughed so hard when we beat the game together, I love that song.
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#3 slayer85
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there is no best rap song, that would be like picking the best piece of crap out of a port-o-john

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#4 blue_tape
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there is no best rap song, that would be like picking the best piece of crap out of a port-o-john

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ha, same can be said about gears!
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#5 Kickinurazz
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there is no best rap song, that would be like picking the best piece of crap out of a port-o-john

slayer85

true, but the song is funny

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#6 nickyb628
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[QUOTE="slayer85"]

there is no best rap song, that would be like picking the best piece of crap out of a port-o-john

Kickinurazz

true, but the song is funny

I love ignorance and generalizations :).

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#7 slayer85
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rap itself is ignorance and generalizations, lol
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#8 drewdelapoots
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rap itself is ignorance and generalizations, lolslayer85

post of the day right there.

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#9 Tmills_basic
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or the ONLY good rap song, but it is Cole Train Rap at the end of Gears, its too funny!Kickinurazz

The fact that Cliffy B and whoever though it wa a good idea to put that song at the end of gears is the reason real Hip-Hop (not Rap, rap is what you all listen to on MTV and think is Hip-Hop) is not respected.

Oh and to the poster that said Rap is generalizations and ignorance, the only way it is like that is because of people who don't understand Hip-Hop culture making crap music, and then people like you buying it...(or maybe not you, but people who dont know what real hip hop is.)

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#10 Tmills_basic
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rap itself is ignorance and generalizations, lolslayer85

ou are the generalization of WHY people make hip hop....to fight the ignorant mind that people like you have...

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#11 tgschmidt
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[QUOTE="slayer85"]rap itself is ignorance and generalizations, lolTmills_basic

ou are the generalization of WHY people make hip hop....to fight the ignorant mind that people like you have...

nice sig. i'm sure the big man is looking down right now and thinking, "maybe i should have let the mice run everything. at least they don't call each other names."



and for the record, just because one person likes rap, doesn't mean everyone else does.
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#12 blue_tape
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[QUOTE="slayer85"]rap itself is ignorance and generalizations, lolTmills_basic

ou are the generalization of WHY people make hip hop....to fight the ignorant mind that people like you have...

Rap is also used as a platform for gross self-promotion and cultural exploitation.
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#13 Kickinurazz
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[QUOTE="Kickinurazz"]or the ONLY good rap song, but it is Cole Train Rap at the end of Gears, its too funny!Tmills_basic

The fact that Cliffy B and whoever though it wa a good idea to put that song at the end of gears is the reason real Hip-Hop (not Rap, rap is what you all listen to on MTV and think is Hip-Hop) is not respected.

Oh and to the poster that said Rap is generalizations and ignorance, the only way it is like that is because of people who don't understand Hip-Hop culture making crap music, and then people like you buying it...(or maybe not you, but people who dont know what real hip hop is.)

says the christian cause we all know, they know all about rap and hip-hop!

and i dont like rap at all... it sucks, the only good rap or hip-hop is cole train song.

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#14 steveslugga
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wow i saw this fire starting from a mile away, this debate could go on forever about rap music but i suggest this thread should just be closed
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[QUOTE="slayer85"]rap itself is ignorance and generalizations, lolTmills_basic

ou are the generalization of WHY people make hip hop....to fight the ignorant mind that people like you have...

I thought people made hip hop because they can't sing or play an instrument?

And come on! Most rap is about how much they like to shoot guns and rob and make money. Very devoid of any significance. Rap is the only genre of music where the rapper has his name repeated like 50 times in the song. Very humble lol.

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#16 Kickinurazz
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thought people made hip hop because they can't sing or play an instrument?

And come on! Most rap is about how much they like to shoot guns and rob and make money. Very devoid of any significance. Rap is the only genre of music where the rapper has his name repeated like 50 times in the song. Very humble lol.

Col_Kilgore

haha that is so true about the 50 times in a song thing.

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#17 loganb5
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Rap is taking over everything. Check the Sales. Rock is dead.

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#19 _RA0_
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wrong section

rap song has nothing to do with xbox360

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#20 Kickinurazz
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wrong section

rap song has nothing to do with xbox360

Dotcue

this is in 360 because of the Gears of War part.... read before you post.

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#21 steveslugga
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Rap is taking over everything. Check the Sales. Rock is dead.

loganb5
thats because every white girl (where I live)is aspiring to be black &as a result they support rap, most guys where i live are strictly rock, including me
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#22 loganb5
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Haha i knew that would stir some stuff up. You guys are racist. Rock Sucks.

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#23 steveslugga
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im not racist, i just simply hate how its "cool" to be black, i actually have many friends of all different races (including black) We dont poke fun at each others preferences, if u like rock than so be it, same with rap, it is what it is
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#24 Modbeat
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Wow the level of ignorance in this thread is outrageous. First off just because you do not like rap does not mean there are no good rap songs. Next I don't see why people are associating rap as being a completely single race music form. And to the racist people who have posted or will post you are truly the most ignorant people alive and probably are insecure about yourself so you feel the need to try and put down others. And while rap may not require playing instruments it is much more lyrically complex than rock music. As for me I am white before you try and make racist comments andI like allgood music (except country) anything fromLamb of God orKillswitch Engage to Lil Wayneand Common. People need to open their minds so we can better ourselves as a world.
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How is it a good song? Its like the same thing over and over.
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#26 Dub_c6969
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Haha i knew that would stir some stuff up. You guys are racist. Rock Sucks.

loganb5
QFT
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#27 darksusperia
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And while rap may not require playing instruments it is much more lyrically complex than rock music. .Modbeat

yes, they are so smart that they have there songs written for them. that does not = talent. rap, hip hop, pop and dare I say techno doof doof dribble (despite it does take a little bit of talent) are the most talentless forms of music on the planet. Generic manufactured crap. All they do is sing and 3/4's of them dont even do that, lip synchers.

Techno most of the time takes other ppls work and reworks it - not very original. I guess u could say no creativity = no talent?

Rock bands too have songs written for them but not as much as the above. This is why metal, country, jazz and blues are the only proper talent groups. Heavy metal is the new cl@assical. You want to argue that one best you start arguing with music professors from some of the top music universities then.

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#28 oo769er
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Not much good rap out. if i had to name the best it would probably be Cypress Hill - How I Could Just Kill a Man.

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#29 darksusperia
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Not much good rap out. if i had to name the best it would probably be Cypress Hill - How I Could Just Kill a Man.

oo769er

atleast rap was rap back then and they wrote their own stuff.

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#30 oo769er
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[QUOTE="oo769er"]

Not much good rap out. if i had to name the best it would probably be Cypress Hill - How I Could Just Kill a Man.

darksusperia

atleast rap was rap back then and they wrote their own stuff.

True.

BTW great albums in you're sig. I love the album The Blackening by Machine Head.

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#31 steveslugga
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i used to love rap back in the day, Reasonable Doubt by Jay-Z is still one of my favourite albums, to me rap is now just about fads & current dance crazes.
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#32 darksusperia
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[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="oo769er"]

Not much good rap out. if i had to name the best it would probably be Cypress Hill - How I Could Just Kill a Man.

oo769er

atleast rap was rap back then and they wrote their own stuff.

True.

BTW great albums in you're sig. I love the album The Blackening by Machine Head.

I do too!!! 7 weeks until I see machine head play with arch enemy and...trivium... cant wait man. Blackening got Metal album of the year. And so it should. Its a modern thrash masterpeice!!.

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#33 F-L-I-P
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Yeah... rap is ignorant... I mean any mofo off the street can sit in a studio and write an Illmatic, Reasoable Doubt, Life After Death, All Eyez On Me, or Death Certificate. Jes' 'cuz MTV says Souljah Boy and Yung Joc is rap, doesn't mean it is.

And hip-hop's classics' > Rock classics'

Oh yeah, and to the muthafatha who said Black people need to be wiped out by a plauge, go F your sister and pick your own damn cotton.

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#34 cwagmire
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[QUOTE="loganb5"]

Rap is taking over everything. Check the Sales. Rock is dead.

Kickinurazz

im prolly gonna get banned for this but...

too many black people are alive, we need a new plague.

I hope you do.

I know I won't miss you.

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#35 darksusperia
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And hip-hop's classics' > Rock classics'

F-L-I-P

shows how much you know then. Pink Floyd OWNS ALL RAP son!. and if that was the case wouldnt there be a cRAP hero instead of guitar hero?

Move on, your fad is dying.

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#36 F-L-I-P
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Dogg, as long as there's ghettos, hip-hop is gonna be here. And I could give a flying 747 fudge if MTV no longer aired that garbage Southern rap anyways. That's all Southern dances and hooks anyways. And yeah, a friend of mine I've known for 14 years listens to Pink Floyd, he does have good music, so I know what you're talkin about. But I bet you've never heard rap outside of MTV or BET.

And that was my opinion anyways. I could also say Tupac OWNS ALL ROCK boy. And if that was the case, why is 50 Cent the only one to go Diamond on the charts recently?

wack rap sounds worse than garbage rock

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#37 marth678
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to all of you who say rap sucks and has no redemming values i dare you to listen to lupe fiasco, people try to blame everything on rap, just like video games... i mean how many death metal bands are out. Hundreds if not thousands... those songs have no redeming values... to the one who said rap was cultural exploitation what is country... hippie red-neck music? http://youtube.com/watch?v=34NgzB-PLzcstop being ignorant and learn the truth... this one song proves ALL of your racist, prejudice, sterotypical, ignorant, and childish comments to rest.

btw nice job MODS of doing away with the racist, i mean you guys came so swift and fast, MODS rule. *end sarcasm*

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Dogg, as long as there's ghettos, hip-hop is gonna be here. And I could give a flying 747 fudge if MTV no longer aired that garbage Southern rap anyways. That's all Southern dances and hooks anyways. And yeah, a friend of mine I've known for 14 years listens to Pink Floyd, he does have good music, so I know what you're talkin about. But I bet you've never heard rap outside of MTV or BET.

And that was my opinion anyways. I could also say Tupac OWNS ALL ROCK boy. And if that was the case, why is 50 Cent the only one to go Diamond on the charts recently?

wack rap sounds worse than garbage rock

F-L-I-P

lets set something straight.

1) Im not an animal so dont refer to me as dogg.
2) I dont watch MTV or BET or any other you can think of.
3) all current rap, including 50 cent (my god what a stupid name) is an insult to tupac.
4) rock in all its forms has been around much much longer so no, rap does not own rock nor will it ever. its just a trend that is in cycles. It started in the late 70's early 80's, got over shadowed by thrash and prog rock through out that entire time. Got its hooks into the mainstream greatly by the 90's. its now run its course and rock is coming back. Metal is coming back again just like it did in the 80's, WHEN IT WAS THE BIGGEST FORM OF MUSIC ON THE PLANET. Rock will always be there regardless of the current trend.

No rap band will ever be as big or rememberd as much as, dare i say, Elvis, Pink Floyd, The Rollingstones, Metallica, Pantera, hendrix, Neil Diamond.

hell, Neil diamond has more sales then any of your supposed rap gods. Yes he is old, I dont listen to him. But my point is this.

Hes still selling records, I doubt ANY of your rap artist will be able to say the same in 40 years time.

5) 747's are made from fudge?

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to all of you who say rap sucks and has no redemming values i dare you to listen to lupe fiasco, people try to blame everything on rap, just like video games...marth678

just like how manson, slipknot and the rest all get blamed for stupid fools that take guns into schools and shoot up everything.

Maybe if America had some form of gun control then just maybe, rap and metal artists will stop copping the blame for other ppls actions.

i mean how many detah metal bands are out everywhere hundreds if not thousands... those songs have no redeming values... marth678

true, but we arent forced to listen to it, have it pushed in our faces every damn second of the day.

If its not on the radio, its on some music program on the tv. If its not some music program on the tv its a damn ad for freaking ring tones of the same rubbish. If its not an ad for ring tones is the freaking backin music to some other ad.

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#40 Spartan874
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on a more serious note i would say that anything by Immortal Technique or Bone Thugs-n-Harmony is teh best rap evar
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#41 marth678
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[QUOTE="marth678"]to all of you who say rap sucks and has no redemming values i dare you to listen to lupe fiasco, people try to blame everything on rap, just like video games...darksusperia

just like how manson, slipknot and the rest all get blamed for stupid fools that take guns into schools and shoot up everything.

Maybe if America had some form of gun control then just maybe, rap and metal artists will stop copping the blame for other ppls actions.

i mean how many detah metal bands are out everywhere hundreds if not thousands... those songs have no redeming values... marth678

true, but we arent forced to listen to it, have it pushed in our faces every damn second of the day.

If its not on the radio, its on some music program on the tv. If its not some music program on the tv its a damn ad for freaking ring tones of the same rubbish. If its not an ad for ring tones is the freaking backin music to some other ad.

see i like you, you and me seem to be on the same page, people any kind of music CAN be bad, ITS YOUR OPINION, but just dont generalize everything like that, ok? i mean i pro. wouldn't love linkin park if it was not for rap. (for the ignorant ones, jay-z and linkin park did a cd together).

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[QUOTE="Kickinurazz"]or the ONLY good rap song, but it is Cole Train Rap at the end of Gears, its too funny!Tmills_basic

The fact that Cliffy B and whoever though it wa a good idea to put that song at the end of gears is the reason real Hip-Hop (not Rap, rap is what you all listen to on MTV and think is Hip-Hop) is not respected.

Oh and to the poster that said Rap is generalizations and ignorance, the only way it is like that is because of people who don't understand Hip-Hop culture making crap music, and then people like you buying it...(or maybe not you, but people who dont know what real hip hop is.)

u got it wrong the stuff on mtv is hip hop lol .....real rap isn't on mtv........

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#43 darksusperia
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on a more serious note i would say that anything by Immortal Technique or Bone Thugs-n-Harmony is teh best rap evarSpartan874

I dont know if he still is, but wasnt one dude from BT&H the worlds fastest lyricist?

And more bands from the age of "When rap was rap".

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#44 Z-Bombz
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lol pantera is taking a bit too far but other than that i agree completely. I dont know how u can say hip hop classics>rock classics....10 20 years down the road Ill guarantee that the greatest songs of all time are those same great rockclassics that are the best now. If u actually took an overall poll of the country which would be impossible to do but if you could rock's votes would prolly double if not triple over rap's
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[QUOTE="slayer85"]rap itself is ignorance and generalizations, loldrewdelapoots

post of the day right there.

Damn truth.

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#46 hooperalltheway
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people who dont listen to rap music are so ignorant and racist if you dont listen to rap and watch mtv dont make judgements because that is not rap or hip hop people who listen to rap all know that it is not real hip hop mostly it is liked for the beat in the song. But listen to kanye west common or mos def this is real hip hop obviouly people are still racist in 2007 which is a shame but thats ok because most of them sit behind their computers and type this insted of saying it which is cowardly if you ask me
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#47 darksusperia
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[QUOTE="darksusperia"]

[QUOTE="marth678"]to all of you who say rap sucks and has no redemming values i dare you to listen to lupe fiasco, people try to blame everything on rap, just like video games...marth678

just like how manson, slipknot and the rest all get blamed for stupid fools that take guns into schools and shoot up everything.

Maybe if America had some form of gun control then just maybe, rap and metal artists will stop copping the blame for other ppls actions.

i mean how many detah metal bands are out everywhere hundreds if not thousands... those songs have no redeming values... marth678

true, but we arent forced to listen to it, have it pushed in our faces every damn second of the day.

If its not on the radio, its on some music program on the tv. If its not some music program on the tv its a damn ad for freaking ring tones of the same rubbish. If its not an ad for ring tones is the freaking backin music to some other ad.

see i like you, you and me seem to be on the same page, people any kind of music CAN be bad, ITS YOUR OPINION, but just dont generalize everything like that, ok? i mean i pro. wouldn't love linkin park if it was not for rap. (for the ignorant ones, jay-z and linkin park did a cd together).

The whole music, which genre is better then that genre arguement is all purely opinion. There is no right or wrong answer so I do try to stay away as much as I can from generalizations and putting the music down. Sure i dont like it so I may slip in crap instead of rap or whatever and if I cop flak for that fair enough.

Its things like rap > rock that I like to argue. I like to keep it fact based as opinions tend to make the discussion head off on a tangent.

Its when bands have been round for half a century, maybe less are instantly discredited because someone doesnt like them, saying that they suck and dont live up to this n that in there eyes. Fine thats your opinion, But if you think your precious rap artist has the longevity to compete with rocks greats then your kidding yourself (im looking at you F-L-I-P).

All the artist I mentioned before have started long before most rap artists, seen them come, then seen them go while they are still selling records 20 years old!!!.

Other then tupac, Cypress hill and beatie boys, Im having a hard time coming up with more then 3 rap artists that have lasted that distance.

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#48 richl3523
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i will answer the question

the best rap song ever is......somebody farted by two live crew

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lol pantera is taking a bit too far but other than that i agree completely. I dont know how u can say hip hop classics>rock classics....10 20 years down the road Ill guarantee that the greatest songs of all time are those same great rockclassics that are the best now. If u actually took an overall poll of the country which would be impossible to do but if you could rock's votes would prolly double if not triple over rap'sZ-Bombz

I mentioned Pantera purely for A) they did so much for metal B) Dimebag is as great as hendrix and will be remembered by millions just a fondly. I guess u could say he was the 21st century hendrix.