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#1 DoMiNiC147
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I'm watching G4 and it said that the latest Game Informer says that it will have multi-player. What are your feelings on this. I personally wish they would of concentrated on the single-player experience.

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#2 akiraxander
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I really wish they would just stick to single player. We have other games series for multiplayer-COD,GearsofWar,Halo,Team Fortress. I mean if the single player is just as long and as good fine I've got no complaints, but the loss of resources to make the multiplayer make me worried.

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#3 Strider_91
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Done well.. this is a huge plus for me because alot of the time im on the 360 with someone else.. Done wrong.. could ruin a great start to a series
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#4 PlasmaBeam44
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Consider this post a big middle finger to all the idiots who complained that the original Bioshock didn't have miltiplayer. You obviously missed the point of the game and I don't know what world your living in but not every FPS needs multiplayer. I see this becoming like Metroid Prime 2. Great single player with some half assed multiplayer that no one will play.

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#5 armyman455
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i think if they make it seperate like Half Life 2 did with couterstrike source or Team Fortress 2 then it could be good but since they probly wont and theyll take precious recourcses from the single player experience then it is a bad idea

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#6 raylewisnfl52
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I doubt it will be good but it doesnt hurt to have it
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#7 mastershakez
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People overreact, the singleplayer will still be great. They know that the singleplayer is what's important, and they'll put all their effort into it. The multiplayer will either be a descent simple multiplayer or a crappy extra feature. Either way, the singleplayer will be the same with or without the multiplayer.

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#8 PlasmaBeam44
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I doubt it will be good but it doesnt hurt to have itraylewisnfl52

But it does hurt. They're taking away resources from the single player to make a multiplayer mode that is completely useless and unneeded. Just because the game is in first person doesn't automatically mean it has to have multiplayer.

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#9 DaViD_99
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I doubt it will be good but it doesnt hurt to have itraylewisnfl52
Yeah, actually it does kinda hurt to have it. It hurts the single player, less ressources. Not all games need multiplayer damn it!
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#10 raahsnavj
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Yeah when I read the news I just shook my head and realized how much multiplayer gets in the way. Now they won't be able to just make the plasmids the way they should work, they will have to try and find a way to 'balance' them for multiplayer and such...
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#11 klusps
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I don't like the fact that it has multiplayer. They should invest most of their time on creating an epic single player.

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#12 Gamerzone23
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I am not really a fan of playing online, I usually play single player.
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#13 akiraxander
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i think if they make it seperate like Half Life 2 did with couterstrike source or Team Fortress 2 then it could be good but since they probly wont and theyll take precious recourcses from the single player experience then it is a bad idea

armyman455

I really think that is a great idea.;) It would solve both problems of them taking there time to make a great single player and a great multiplayer without losing the resorceson ether.

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#14 bbarker831
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I think Bioshock did exceptionally well without any multiplayer at all, and personally, I wish Bioshock 2 would remain an epic single-player experience. Since this is not the case, I hope they still focus on the singleplayer aspect of the game the most. When it comes to Bioshock, I'm wanting to play through a great story, not play a crappy deathmatch withprepubescent boys pathetically bashing me.

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#15 LessThanMike
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HUGE mistake....i'd prefer they spent their time with the story and single player....
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#16 Coyote32
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Co-Op pleease... Thats it.

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#17 DoMiNiC147
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Co-Op pleease... Thats it.

Coyote32
I don't know anything about co-op. I guess it would be cool.
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#18 craigalan23
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Co-Op pleease... Thats it.

Coyote32

That's all that i'd want. Even though i wouldn't faint if they added it. I played the original for the singleplayer i really can't see how they'd implement multiplayer.. It just doesn't seem like it would work well. Obviously they can add things but it just doesn't seem like it would be the same great experience. I'm having my doubts about the game now.

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#19 DoMiNiC147
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[QUOTE="Coyote32"]

Co-Op pleease... Thats it.

craigalan23

That's all that i'd want. Even though i wouldn't faint if they added it. I played the original for the singleplayer i really can't see how they'd implement multiplayer.. It just doesn't seem like it would work well. Obviously they can add things but it just doesn't seem like it would be the same great experience. I'm having my doubts about the game now.

If they do have multi-player I can see it being about a husband and father who's daughter was taking and there on a mission to find out to save her. Please don't let it be that simple.
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#20 Dawq902
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I won't mind it but I could definetly go without it. The game would have been amazing as a SP game only anyways, this can only (hopefully) be a bonus to the game.

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#21 nickdastick
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I think this is a great idea! They could have easily thrown together a multiplayer mode in the last one since all the levels are seperated already and they have a sick thing built in too (plasmids)! This will be awesome!

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#22 gears90
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I am getting increasingly concerned about this game. Following such an amazing first game, seriously one of the greatest 360 games, there is so much that could go wrong. Hopefully the story is actually good and not just a lame story that is only there because they wanted to make a sequel. I'm also scared that the environments aren't going to be as good. I hope they dont take away some of the creepy atmosphere and replace it with lighter environments. Then there are the rumors of Big Sisters, and I dont know if i like that idea. And now multiplayer could kill it. they absolutely can not even start working on multiplayer until they are completely done with the story mode as if they werent going to have multiplayer. Then they are going to have to work EXTRA hard to make sure it doesnt feel tacked on which i have a feeling it might. Hopefully i'm wrong and everything will be great, but i am worried. No matter what though i will be getting this day one.

To answer the question, I dont mind there being multiplayer as long as the single player is still as good as it would be without it, even if it is tacked on,if it doesnt interfere with single player i dont care. And who knows maybe it will be great.

P.S. To the people who said co-op would be good, NO! That would defeat the purpose of isolation you have from the game. In the first game, the only human contact you have is over radios, through windows and such, or enemies, and now there would be a friend right there. Bye-Bye horror.

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#23 Supertramp20
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the style just doesnt fit multyplayer. if they pulled it off i would be impressed

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#24 photokid201
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This post ruined my day, better yet my week! I love Bioshock has single player only game, not every game needs multiplayer that something every game developer needs to understand. If the dev. team is hard at work trying to make a better multiplayer experience than games such as Halo, or Call of Duty instead of focusing on the story, then the great single player experience that made Bioshock what it is becomes lacking of some of that spark. Its like God Of War 3 getting multiplayer........its just not needed!
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#25 hopesfall2own
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Can't say i'm thrilled about it, bioshock was a nice change of pace between halo 3 and cod4 for the fact it was completely single player. I don't know what they can do in multiplayer to make it worth playing more than a couple times just to see what its like.. basically how are they going to make a lasting multiplayer experience based off what we got in bioshock1?
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#26 Havic_Davis
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Co-op would be nice if it didn't affect the story too much, don't think multi-player would be that great.
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#27 OfficialBed
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I couldn't care less. Even though I haven't played the first Bioshock (it's still sealed in my drawer), I've heard that the game is great without multiplayer. I hate how some people won't even touch a game if it doesn't have multiplayer. I think it's such stupid reason to not pick up a game. Anyway, I couldn't care less if Bioshock 2 has multiplayer because I doubt I'll play it.

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#28 DPhunkT
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No no no. Co-op at the most. But capture the FLAG in the Bioshock world? NO. Focus on making an epic single player experience please!
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#29 Jking98
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Thats sucks, the multiplayer will probally take up most of the single player :cry:

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#30 TheCaveRat
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I really dunno if it's going to be anything special. Even if I get Bioshock 2, I don't see myself spending anytime on the multiplayer. It seems like one of those series that should just stick to keeping the single player amazing.

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#31 violent_spinal
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[QUOTE="Coyote32"]

Co-Op pleease... Thats it.

DoMiNiC147

I don't know anything about co-op. I guess it would be cool.


That's all I really understood they were adding.
I guess they're adding a versus mode too?

Oh, dear.
I don't even want Co-Op in this game. Versus mode just makes me *facepalm* even more.

Every game doesn't need MP, or Co-Op.
God Dammit. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I love BioShock.:(

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#32 raahsnavj
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The other thing to note is if the multiplayer doesn't play better than CoD4 or Halo it will be hit negatively on reviews... so expect a 8.0-8.5 at best due to multiplayer being 'weak'. Really I don't see why they bother with multiplayer at all if it isn't the emphasis. It will be a lose / lose situation unless the not only match the single player experience, but also blow the multiplayer 'brand names' out of the water in multiplayer.
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#33 Lance_Kalzas
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Quite frankly I don't understand the negativity. Granted, adding this feature COULD detract from the overall gameplay but then again, it could just as easily have the opposite effect. I always think it's a huge mistake to start making judgment calls before the game is even made so take a step back, enjoy the games that you have at this point in time and leave the future for....the future. Honestly, what good is it going to do you to worry about this now? And why in the world would you let this ruin your day let alone your week is beyond me.
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#34 Lance_Kalzas
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The other thing to note is if the multiplayer doesn't play better than CoD4 or Halo it will be hit negatively on reviews... so expect a 8.0-8.5 at best due to multiplayer being 'weak'. Really I don't see why they bother with multiplayer at all if it isn't the emphasis. It will be a lose / lose situation unless the not only match the single player experience, but also blow the multiplayer 'brand names' out of the water in multiplayer.raahsnavj
Which they very well might do so I would throw away all of these preconceived notions....
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#35 gr8scott
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I really dunno if it's going to be anything special. Even if I get Bioshock 2, I don't see myself spending anytime on the multiplayer. It seems like one of those series that should just stick to keeping the single player amazing.

TheCaveRat

Completely agree. Bioshock is my favorite FPS on this console (even over games like COD4 and Halo 3). The trip to Rapture was awesome. The atmosphere was awesome! Little Sisters, Big Daddies, Atlas, it was all awesome! The storyline was SO SO much better than any of the other FPS games.

I feel that by focusing on a single player game AND multiplayer that it can take away a great single player experience. A multiplayer isn't needed in Bioshock. What's the the point? To add replay value? I will take an epic single player experience over an incredible multiplayer game any day of the week. Bioshock could have really used a new game+ option if you wanted to add replay value.

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#36 raahsnavj
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[QUOTE="raahsnavj"]The other thing to note is if the multiplayer doesn't play better than CoD4 or Halo it will be hit negatively on reviews... so expect a 8.0-8.5 at best due to multiplayer being 'weak'. Really I don't see why they bother with multiplayer at all if it isn't the emphasis. It will be a lose / lose situation unless the not only match the single player experience, but also blow the multiplayer 'brand names' out of the water in multiplayer.Lance_Kalzas
Which they very well might do so I would throw away all of these preconceived notions....

They already told us it will have it, but it won't be the emphasis. That right there smells of failure. Either say you are going to take on CoD multiplayer head on AND single player, or realize the one you don't focus as much on will drag down your scores. Only if they say it won't ship until we get both aspects perfect will I expect the multiplayer to be anything but a hinderance.
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#37 msudude211
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I don't care if they have multiplayer or not as long as the single player still rocks.
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#38 RendFou
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Co-op would be cool but Bioshock never struck me as the type of game that needs multiplayer. Who knows maybe they'll do something really cool and prove me wrong but I doubt it.
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#39 MaddenBowler10
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way to overreact kiddos
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#40 MaddenBowler10
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I don't care if they have multiplayer or not as long as the single player still rocks. msudude211
way to butcher the language.
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#41 paulokoenigkam
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Bioshock DOES have enough content and gameplay mechanics to make an interesting multiplayer mode. People shooting and using plasmids against each other would be fun. HOWEVER... Unless we check on bioshock 2's history, many multiplayer objective based modes wouldn't make sense... But yes, Bioshock 2 might have again another superb single player experience, but if it's multiplayer isn't that good (which I bet won't be able to compete with the big ones), will affect the score of the game, around 1 or 2 points. Multiplayer also takes a big chunk of the disk, meaning the chances are we'll have a shorter campaign. Bottom line -> If this Bioshock gets anything higher than 8,5 I'll be freaking amazed (I'm guessing a perfect 8,0)
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#42 MastaP110
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The only modes to me that would be fun in multiplayer is co-op and like a left 4 dead knock off where you have survivors vs human played big dadys and splicers.

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#43 mihawk0
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Co-Op pleease... Thats it.

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#44 seankane
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While Bioshock was an amazing game, its actual gunplay was not one of its greatest strengths. I think thats one of the core elements to a successful and worthwhile multiplayer element. Yes, Bioshock has plasmids, but how well would that fit into what needs to be a *balanced* multiplayer mode? I'm not optimistic.

And to those who are ok with co-op, I have to strongly disagree. Certain games lend themselves to co-op, and they're usually games with the emphasis on the action, which Bioshock is not. It would also take away a bit of the feeling of 'solitude' that gives the game a nice tense overlying vibe. I would greatly miss that.

So a big resounding 'NO' from me. I will be happy to be proven wrong when it comes out, but I'm not getting my hopes up. All I can hope is that we dont have to deal with a heavily compromised game.

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#45 immortality20
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Bioshock and Dead Space were two of my favorite games this gen because they were an immersive single player experience. That being said, co op and all that is the cool thing to do but I highly dislike it and 95% of the time play by myself. To each their own, but I think Bioshock should of stayed single.

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#46 DoMiNiC147
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[QUOTE="DPhunkT"]No no no. Co-op at the most. But capture the FLAG in the Bioshock world? NO. Focus on making an epic single player experience please!

If they do have CTF it would be CTLS (capture the little sister)
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#47 ncderek
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sweet, always wanted one, such a great engine, after beating it twice, there's was nothing else to it, online always keeps a great game around longer

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#48 TheWolf269
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I'm watching G4 and it said that the latest Game Informer says that it will have multi-player. What are your feelings on this. I personally wish they would of concentrated on the single-player experience.

DoMiNiC147

I think it should be a co op

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#49 orb_03_2006
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Consider this post a big middle finger to all the idiots who complained that the original Bioshock didn't have miltiplayer. You obviously missed the point of the game and I don't know what world your living in but not every FPS needs multiplayer. I see this becoming like Metroid Prime 2. Great single player with some half assed multiplayer that no one will play.

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#50 chefstubbies
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I could care less about multi-player. I am interested only in the single player for a game like Bioshock.