bioshock 2 reviews are off

both ign and gamespot are saying that bioshock 2 is too similar to bioshock 1 and that is the main negative with the game....hello...then how on god's green earth can games like halo 3, gta 4, andgears of war 2not also be criticized for the same reason? the first bioshock was amazingwhy would 2k want to change something that CLEARLY worked for them?

I agree in some ways and in some i dont i mean BioShock 2 does seems a lot like BioShock 1 and i know its a sequel and all but it doesnt look like they built anything innovative into the title besides becoming a Big Daddy.i mean they didnt even make any new plasmids you would think they would start thinking of something as simple as new plasmids on day 1 of developement.

Sometimes it appears they have double standards with reviews. Then again, I was hoping for a change of scenary with Bioshock 2.

I'm not surprised at the lower review scores. BioShock's main hook was the setting and the "mess with your mind" story. The gameplay was that of an average corridor shooter at best with a few Plasmids that everyone played up to be something really special. From what I gather by the reviews, this is a plain story with slight improvements to gameplay and the same setting.

Please don't act surprised that it has lower review scores when the reviews all state what I just said above, just in a much more detailed manner.

Its a good story and good gameplay, however nothing dramatic, but still a good game. I hope if they release a new one, it will be a change of or from rapture.

both ign and gamespot are saying that bioshock 2 is too similar to bioshock 1 and that is the main negative with the game....hello...then how on god's green earth can games like halo 3, gta 4, andgears of war 2not also be criticized for the same reason? the first bioshock was amazingwhy would 2k want to change something that CLEARLY worked for them?

darkghost75

makes sense

You raise some good points. To be honest; the scores aren't outrageous, but I do think that the actual reviews have donwplayed the game (having been playing it for a bit). The main complaint I could see coming up is that it won't have a moment of revelation and meaning like in Andrew Ryan's office... And who would have honestly expected another one of those? :P

I don't feel like spending a whole lot of time on this so I'm just going to stick with the Gamespot review.

Set nearly a decade after the events of its precursor, BioShock 2's Rapture is just as haunting and atmospheric the second time around (and perhaps even more so), but the sunken tomb of Rapture has lost much of the mystery that made it so memorable. Everything seems a bit too familiar, and the story that accompanies your journey is not as impressive or shocking as the original.

Gamespot review

This isn't an issue with Halo 3 or Gears 2 since they don't take place in the same location as their predecessors and GTA IV's Liberty City is a drastic redesign so it doesn't feel as familiar. Each game also benefits differently from their settings.

This isn't the only thing that the reviewer considers when reviewing the game. All the games you listed were designed vastly differently from Bioshock 2, came out at different times, came from different series and in the case of GTA 4 was from an entirely different genre. There for they are not held at the exact same standards as Bioshock 2 was.

Keep in mind that this wasn't the only complaint from the reviewer and was not given it's score soley because of it's familiarity. Also keep in mind that the Gamespot staff member that reviewed Bioshock 2 was not the same person who reviewed Halo 3, GTA 4, Gear of War 2 or even the original Bioshock.

Lastly, why does it matter? The game still got a good score. 8.5/10. Is that number that a game you've yet to play was awarded really going to effect your enjoyment of the game? Complaining about the score isn't going to change anything. For that matter whats the point of reading a review if you aren't going to use it to help in your decision on weather or not to purchase the game? Believe or not reviews aren't just mere numbers that comfort and anger fanboys.

both ign and gamespot are saying that bioshock 2 is too similar to bioshock 1 and that is the main negative with the game....hello...then how on god's green earth can games like halo 3, gta 4, andgears of war 2not also be criticized for the same reason? the first bioshock was amazingwhy would 2k want to change something that CLEARLY worked for them?

darkghost75

well ign gave it a 9.1 / 10 i believe...so i'd say that's a pretty damn good score for a sequel, but lets be honest...if your a fan of Rapture, and are craving Adam then you will not care what the reviews say. you will go out and purchase this game, and love every minute of it. well,that's what i plan to do at least;)

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both ign and gamespot are saying that bioshock 2 is too similar to bioshock 1 and that is the main negative with the game....hello...then how on god's green earth can games like halo 3, gta 4, andgears of war 2not also be criticized for the same reason? the first bioshock was amazingwhy would 2k want to change something that CLEARLY worked for them?

DaveyBoy123

I also agree... if the game had strayed further away, they'd be complaining that it didn't feel like Bioshock.

Lastly, why does it matter? The game still got a good score. 8.5/10. Is that number that a game you've yet to play was awarded really going to effect your enjoyment of the game? Complaining about the score isn't going to change anything. For that matter whats the point of reading a review if you aren't going to use it to help in your decision on weather or not to purchase the game? Believe or not reviews aren't just mere numbers that comfort and anger fanboys.

vashkey

The game is getting great reviews.

I personally am enjoying this game a heck of alot.

I enjoyed Bioshock1 for its atmosphere and story, but the gameplay was not that good.

In Bioshock2 they have kept the great atmopshere and story, but improved the gameplay ALOT.

This game really is alot better then I expected (so far).

I have no seen any reviews under 8.5/10 though, its getting amazing reviews.

IGn gave the game a very good score and said the story is better, so I dont see how they are way off.

For me its a 9/10 so far, havnt tried the online yet though.

well 8.5 is pretty good still. i'm glad it didnt get a 10. because I dont want games that GS loves so much that they give it a 10. GTA IV was a HUGE letdown. an 8.5 is a good realistic score. can't wait to play the game, but as usual i'm not payin $60 for a game.....

Sometimes it appears they have double standards with reviews. Then again, I was hoping for a change of scenary with Bioshock 2.

D00nut

I don't feel like spending a whole lot of time on this so I'm just going to stick with the Gamespot review.

[QUOTE="Gamespot review"]

Set nearly a decade after the events of its precursor, BioShock 2's Rapture is just as haunting and atmospheric the second time around (and perhaps even more so), but the sunken tomb of Rapture has lost much of the mystery that made it so memorable. Everything seems a bit too familiar, and the story that accompanies your journey is not as impressive or shocking as the original.

vashkey

This isn't an issue with Halo 3 or Gears 2 since they don't take place in the same location as their predecessors and GTA IV's Liberty City is a drastic redesign so it doesn't feel as familiar. Each game also benefits differently from their settings.

This isn't the only thing that the reviewer considers when reviewing the game. All the games you listed were designed vastly differently from Bioshock 2, came out at different times, came from different series and in the case of GTA 4 was from an entirely different genre. There for they are not held at the exact same standards as Bioshock 2 was.

Keep in mind that this wasn't the only complaint from the reviewer and was not given it's score soley because of it's familiarity. Also keep in mind that the Gamespot staff member that reviewed Bioshock 2 was not the same person who reviewed Halo 3, GTA 4, Gear of War 2 or even the original Bioshock.

Lastly, why does it matter? The game still got a good score. 8.5/10. Is that number that a game you've yet to play was awarded really going to effect your enjoyment of the game? Complaining about the score isn't going to change anything. For that matter whats the point of reading a review if you aren't going to use it to help in your decision on weather or not to purchase the game? Believe or not reviews aren't just mere numbers that comfort and anger fanboys.

I think its fitting. Everything I have read by people clearly states its not better than the first one. So why should it get a higher score or the same score? Too many people complain about every little thing.

both ign and gamespot are saying that bioshock 2 is too similar to bioshock 1 and that is the main negative with the game....hello...then how on god's green earth can games like halo 3, gta 4, andgears of war 2not also be criticized for the same reason? the first bioshock was amazingwhy would 2k want to change something that CLEARLY worked for them?

darkghost75

Sometimes it appears they have double standards with reviews. Then again, I was hoping for a change of scenary with Bioshock 2.

D00nut