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#1 French023
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Halo 3 had soo much hype for soo long but then all of the sudden bioshock stole it all. pretty impressive if you ask me.

How did this happen soo fast
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#2 birdcrap
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halo 3's hype was never stolen... it was just moved aside... (yes theres a difference)... at the start of september the hype will be EXTREME!!1
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#3 soapytoes
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about time if you ask me
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#4 lethal18
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I just think Bioshock is the star of the moment, when Halo 3's release gets closer, everyone will forget all about Bioshock, think of it as a 15 minutes of fame type deal.
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#5 Ballroompirate
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lets see Bioshock comes out Tue and Halo 3 comes out Sept 25th which one would get more hype first?

I hope that answers your question.

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#6 vashkey
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Stole it all? Are you kidding? I bet if you went out on the street and asked twenty people what Bioshock was you'd be lucky to even hear, "is it a game?".

If you asked what Halo was even parents would say, "it's that game with the guns in it".

I assure you, Biosock didn't steal jack from Halo. Only the, "hardcore" gamers are going to play Bioshock.

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#7 Trickshot771
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It's only because Bioshock is about to come out. Halo 3 will get tons more hype around September 20th.
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#8 vashkey
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I'll even go as far as to say theres a good chance that it will take a year for Bioshock sell as many copies as Halo 3 will on it's first day.
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#9 matrix_hiei
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i'm much excited about bioshock than halo 3, even though i'm getting both.
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#10 French023
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lets see Bioshock comes out Tue and Halo 3 comes out Sept 25th which one would get more hype first?

I hope that answers your question.

Ballroompirate

where have u been living the past year? have u not noticed that every time somthing new comes out on halo 3 it is imedatly on the front page on gamespot..... and being talked about on forums stop trying to be a smartasss

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I'll even go as far as to say theres a good chance that it will take a year for Bioshock sell as many copies as Halo 3 will on it's first day.vashkey

hahahha soo true

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#12 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

lets see Bioshock comes out Tue and Halo 3 comes out Sept 25th which one would get more hype first?

I hope that answers your question.

French023

where have u been living the past year? have u not noticed that every time somthing new comes out on halo 3 it is imedatly on the front page on gamespot..... and being talked about on forums stop trying to be a smartasss

lol fine im a smartass and your the dumbass I guess thats fair.

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#13 French023
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ha good one sry for making a good point

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#14 lethal18
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[QUOTE="French023"][QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

lets see Bioshock comes out Tue and Halo 3 comes out Sept 25th which one would get more hype first?

I hope that answers your question.

Ballroompirate

where have u been living the past year? have u not noticed that every time somthing new comes out on halo 3 it is imedatly on the front page on gamespot..... and being talked about on forums stop trying to be a smartasss

lol fine im a smartass and your the dumbass I guess thats fair.

I dont like where this is going......dont stop!!!! :twisted:

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right before halo3 comes out all your going 2 hear is masterchief this and that until another hot game comes and steals the spotlight...creed
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#16 French023
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haha thanks lethal .... this guys just mad because hes a bioshock fanboy that doesnt understand that in a few days its going to be back to halo 3. Hes also pissed that halo 3 will outsell bioshock with preorders alone. O did i mention hes gf broke up with him haha
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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"][QUOTE="French023"][QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

lets see Bioshock comes out Tue and Halo 3 comes out Sept 25th which one would get more hype first?

I hope that answers your question.

lethal18

where have u been living the past year? have u not noticed that every time somthing new comes out on halo 3 it is imedatly on the front page on gamespot..... and being talked about on forums stop trying to be a smartasss

lol fine im a smartass and your the dumbass I guess thats fair.

I dont like where this is going......dont stop!!!! :twisted:

Call me Big Daddy then :P

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I think BioShock SHOULD recieve the most hype, its a different game that doesnt add on to a game, but creates a new one itself. Halo 3 will be just like Halo 2 but with more add ons. That doesnt mean i wont buy Halo 3, but i think that BioShock is very impresive and has made a great name for itself.
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#19 vashkey
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right before halo3 comes out all your going 2 hear is masterchief this and that until another hot game comes and steals the spotlight...creedPhillyDrew04

No, I've my money on Gears 2.

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#20 French023
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I think BioShock SHOULD recieve the most hype, its a different game that doesnt add on to a game, but creates a new one itself. Halo 3 will be just like Halo 2 but with more add ons. That doesnt mean i wont buy Halo 3, but i think that BioShock is very impresive and has made a great name for itself.soulfood4

agreed

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I think BioShock SHOULD recieve the most hype, its a different game that doesnt add on to a game, but creates a new one itself. Halo 3 will be just like Halo 2 but with more add ons. That doesnt mean i wont buy Halo 3, but i think that BioShock is very impresive and has made a great name for itself.soulfood4

No offence, but I think it's getting the hype it deserves. While it is somthing completly new and kinda original, it's deffinatly not somthing everyone will like. It's just not a game everyone will be able to pick up and play and enjoy. Now I'm not saying everyone loves Halo, but it's an easy to pick up play game that most people like. Somthing both the "hardcore" and the "casual" gamer can enjoy.

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Dont worry, Halo 3's time will come :)
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haha thanks lethal .... this guys just mad because hes a bioshock fanboy that doesnt understand that in a few days its going to be back to halo 3. Hes also pissed that halo 3 will outsell bioshock with preorders alone. O did i mention hes gf broke up with him hahaFrench023

Lol ok whatever Im not a fanboy of anything except maybe Ninja Gaiden and Capcom but other than that calling me a fanboy when I plainly stated common sense that Bioshock is getting more hype than halo 3 since dur :drum roll: Bioshock comes out in 3 days which its easier to get hyped for than a month wait for a game (any game) so please take your idioticy from these forums and shove it up your well im sure you get what im saying.

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#24 vashkey
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[QUOTE="French023"]haha thanks lethal .... this guys just mad because hes a bioshock fanboy that doesnt understand that in a few days its going to be back to halo 3. Hes also pissed that halo 3 will outsell bioshock with preorders alone. O did i mention hes gf broke up with him hahaBallroompirate

Lol ok whatever Im not a fanboy of anything except maybe Ninja Gaiden and Capcom but other than that calling me a fanboy when I plainly stated common sense that Bioshock is getting more hype than halo 3 since dur :drum roll: Bioshock comes out in 3 days which its easier to get hyped for than a month wait for a game (any game) so please take your idioticy from these forums and shove it up your well im sure you get what im saying.

No... Bioshock doesn't have it's own brand of Mountain Dew:P and it's not all over the interney like Halo 3. It's building up a decent amount of hype. A nice amount for the kind of game it is, but not near as much as Halo 3, even a month away from it's release.

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[QUOTE="soulfood4"]I think BioShock SHOULD recieve the most hype, its a different game that doesnt add on to a game, but creates a new one itself. Halo 3 will be just like Halo 2 but with more add ons. That doesnt mean i wont buy Halo 3, but i think that BioShock is very impresive and has made a great name for itself.vashkey

No offence, but I think it's getting the hype it deserves. While it is somthing completly new and kinda original, it's deffinatly not somthing everyone will like. It's just not a game everyone will be able to pick up and play and enjoy. Now I'm not saying everyone loves Halo, but it's an easy to pick up play game that most people like. Somthing both the "hardcore" and the "casual" gamer can enjoy.

None taken. But i can agree with that, its true, Halo is a pick up and play game. Now BioShock on the other isnt, and that why im so impressed. A game like that, came out of no where really and has picked up all this attention. Its great, because it shows that good games dont only need to be sequels or something we have already seen before. But something new can come out and be great, is really impressive, especially considering the market today. But i do think BioShock will turn some people off with its gameplay and learning curve, but i also think it will make some people like that kind of genre.
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BioShock's buzz is different than Halo 3's. Halo has name recognition and BioShock's making a name for itself. BioShock strives for innovation and Halo caters to the masses. The "hardcore" gamers interested in BioShock are the same ones posting here, so it might appear they're neck-in-neck popularity-wise, but you certainly don't have to be "hardcore" to be aware of Halo.
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#27 French023
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[QUOTE="French023"]haha thanks lethal .... this guys just mad because hes a bioshock fanboy that doesnt understand that in a few days its going to be back to halo 3. Hes also pissed that halo 3 will outsell bioshock with preorders alone. O did i mention hes gf broke up with him hahavashkey

Lol ok whatever Im not a fanboy of anything except maybe Ninja Gaiden and Capcom but other than that calling me a fanboy when I plainly stated common sense that Bioshock is getting more hype than halo 3 since dur :drum roll: Bioshock comes out in 3 days which its easier to get hyped for than a month wait for a game (any game) so please take your idioticy from these forums and shove it up your well im sure you get what im saying.

No... Bioshock doesn't have it's own brand of Mountain Dew:P and it's not all over the interney like Halo 3. It's building up a decent amount of hype. A nice amount for the kind of game it is, but not near as much as Halo 3, even a month away from it's release.

haha owned.... and yes i know its because it comes out in 3 days but once again if u hadnt notice for the last 2 weeks it has been getting the hype... sry for not making that clear. I realize that games will get hype this close to realease... but i game like this... i just didnt expect it to get this much

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[QUOTE="soulfood4"]I think BioShock SHOULD recieve the most hype, its a different game that doesnt add on to a game, but creates a new one itself. Halo 3 will be just like Halo 2 but with more add ons. That doesnt mean i wont buy Halo 3, but i think that BioShock is very impresive and has made a great name for itself.soulfood4

No offence, but I think it's getting the hype it deserves. While it is somthing completly new and kinda original, it's deffinatly not somthing everyone will like. It's just not a game everyone will be able to pick up and play and enjoy. Now I'm not saying everyone loves Halo, but it's an easy to pick up play game that most people like. Somthing both the "hardcore" and the "casual" gamer can enjoy.

None taken. But i can agree with that, its true, Halo is a pick up and play game. Now BioShock on the other isnt, and that why im so impressed. A game like that, came out of no where really and has picked up all this attention. Its great, because it shows that good games dont only need to be sequels or something we have already seen before. But something new can come out and be great, is really impressive, especially considering the market today. But i do think BioShock will turn some people off with its gameplay and learning curve, but i also think it will make some people like that kind of genre.

Yeah. I don't blame you for liking it. I myself would actually buy it if it werent for its.... Just crazzy story and gritty bloody stuff. Im not saying it's bad, It's just not my type of thing. Kinda the same reason I was thrown off at the end of MGS2. It'just goes to far for me.

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As soon as Bioshock is out and it's finally being played nonstop by the smart people getting the game, all the Halo fanboys will crawl out of their sad corners and pollute the gamespot/ign/anywhere boards with more Halo 3 hype, so don't worry, it'll come soon enough. Not trying to flame here, but it's true. And just for the record, I'm getting Halo 3 as well as Bioshock, so I'm not biased here, I just HATE Halo fanboys because with them if it's not Master Chief then it's crap.
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#30 soulfood4
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[QUOTE="soulfood4"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="soulfood4"]I think BioShock SHOULD recieve the most hype, its a different game that doesnt add on to a game, but creates a new one itself. Halo 3 will be just like Halo 2 but with more add ons. That doesnt mean i wont buy Halo 3, but i think that BioShock is very impresive and has made a great name for itself.vashkey

No offence, but I think it's getting the hype it deserves. While it is somthing completly new and kinda original, it's deffinatly not somthing everyone will like. It's just not a game everyone will be able to pick up and play and enjoy. Now I'm not saying everyone loves Halo, but it's an easy to pick up play game that most people like. Somthing both the "hardcore" and the "casual" gamer can enjoy.

None taken. But i can agree with that, its true, Halo is a pick up and play game. Now BioShock on the other isnt, and that why im so impressed. A game like that, came out of no where really and has picked up all this attention. Its great, because it shows that good games dont only need to be sequels or something we have already seen before. But something new can come out and be great, is really impressive, especially considering the market today. But i do think BioShock will turn some people off with its gameplay and learning curve, but i also think it will make some people like that kind of genre.

Yeah. I don't blame you for liking it. I myself would actually buy it if it werent for its.... Just crazzy story and gritty bloody stuff. Im not saying it's bad, It's just not my type of thing. Kinda the same reason I was thrown off at the end of MGS2. It'just goes to far for me.

Yeah it really does aim for mature audiences. And is very violent, but thats not why i like it, but because of its interesting story. But this is by no means suitable for kids. And it will turn off a lot of people.
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As soon as Bioshock is out and it's finally being played nonstop by the smart people getting the game, all the Halo fanboys will crawl out of their sad corners and pollute the gamespot/ign/anywhere boards with more Halo 3 hype, so don't worry, it'll come soon enough. Not trying to flame here, but it's true. And just for the record, I'm getting Halo 3 as well as Bioshock, so I'm not biased here, I just HATE Halo fanboys because with them if it's not Master Chief then it's crap.jimboboklashaur

thats a good point i know som people that swear by halo and im currently pictureing them hugging there halo 2 cases muttering to themselves halo 3 will be better then bioshock they will see haha

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[QUOTE="French023"]haha thanks lethal .... this guys just mad because hes a bioshock fanboy that doesnt understand that in a few days its going to be back to halo 3. Hes also pissed that halo 3 will outsell bioshock with preorders alone. O did i mention hes gf broke up with him hahavashkey

Lol ok whatever Im not a fanboy of anything except maybe Ninja Gaiden and Capcom but other than that calling me a fanboy when I plainly stated common sense that Bioshock is getting more hype than halo 3 since dur :drum roll: Bioshock comes out in 3 days which its easier to get hyped for than a month wait for a game (any game) so please take your idioticy from these forums and shove it up your well im sure you get what im saying.

No... Bioshock doesn't have it's own brand of Mountain Dew:P and it's not all over the interney like Halo 3. It's building up a decent amount of hype. A nice amount for the kind of game it is, but not near as much as Halo 3, even a month away from it's release.

Ok? I've been drinking mountain dew for like 19 years and I could care less if MC is on the can,its like saying omg tiger woods is on Wheaties! which brings my next point in sponsorship which im sure MD thinks they can sell more soda by having MC on their can which it brings positive feedback for both MD and Halo.

Also since well Halo is basically funded and is being published by Microsoft im pretty sure they can afford to put MC on anything even prolly if it was released later on im sure MS could afford making a decent Halo commercial for the superbowl (which btw its like 2 million dollars every 30 sec of commercial).

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On the hype scale

Halo 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bioshock

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[QUOTE="jimboboklashaur"]As soon as Bioshock is out and it's finally being played nonstop by the smart people getting the game, all the Halo fanboys will crawl out of their sad corners and pollute the gamespot/ign/anywhere boards with more Halo 3 hype, so don't worry, it'll come soon enough. Not trying to flame here, but it's true. And just for the record, I'm getting Halo 3 as well as Bioshock, so I'm not biased here, I just HATE Halo fanboys because with them if it's not Master Chief then it's crap.French023

thats a good point i know som people that swear by halo and im currently pictureing them hugging there halo 2 cases muttering to themselves halo 3 will be better then bioshock they will see haha

For sure. It's pretty sad that the people complaining "NO MULTPLAYRZ OMG OH NOEZ!one!!11!" are gonna miss out on a great single player experience in Bioshock. And with the number of ways to do things in the game and the different weapon combinations and customization options, the replay value MORE than makes up for no multiplayer. Nice image by the way. The Office is 1337.
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[QUOTE="jimboboklashaur"]As soon as Bioshock is out and it's finally being played nonstop by the smart people getting the game, all the Halo fanboys will crawl out of their sad corners and pollute the gamespot/ign/anywhere boards with more Halo 3 hype, so don't worry, it'll come soon enough. Not trying to flame here, but it's true. And just for the record, I'm getting Halo 3 as well as Bioshock, so I'm not biased here, I just HATE Halo fanboys because with them if it's not Master Chief then it's crap.French023

thats a good point i know som people that swear by halo and im currently pictureing them hugging there halo 2 cases muttering to themselves halo 3 will be better then bioshock they will see haha

Wow you just totally leave me in shock onhow stupid you are when you are bashing me for apparently being a Bioshock fanboy which you have no proof of and your the one whos basically drooling over Halo 3's hype like a fly on **** (Halo 3 is a damn good game and series its just not worth it for being geedy for its release when its a little over a month tell its out,if it was like 2 weeks or something I would prolly be more excited for Halo 3 and of course the majority of gamers would have already beaten Bioshock and they look towards the next big thing aka Halo 3).

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[QUOTE="French023"]

[QUOTE="jimboboklashaur"]As soon as Bioshock is out and it's finally being played nonstop by the smart people getting the game, all the Halo fanboys will crawl out of their sad corners and pollute the gamespot/ign/anywhere boards with more Halo 3 hype, so don't worry, it'll come soon enough. Not trying to flame here, but it's true. And just for the record, I'm getting Halo 3 as well as Bioshock, so I'm not biased here, I just HATE Halo fanboys because with them if it's not Master Chief then it's crap.jimboboklashaur

thats a good point i know som people that swear by halo and im currently pictureing them hugging there halo 2 cases muttering to themselves halo 3 will be better then bioshock they will see haha

For sure. It's pretty sad that the people complaining "NO MULTPLAYRZ OMG OH NOEZ!one!!11!" are gonna miss out on a great single player experience in Bioshock. And with the number of ways to do things in the game and the different weapon combinations and customization options, the replay value MORE than makes up for no multiplayer. Nice image by the way. The Office is 1337.

thanks the office is definatly and will be the best show on tv for a while

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thanks the office is definatly and will be the best show on tv for a while

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True, so are you getting the game?
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[QUOTE="French023"]

[QUOTE="jimboboklashaur"]As soon as Bioshock is out and it's finally being played nonstop by the smart people getting the game, all the Halo fanboys will crawl out of their sad corners and pollute the gamespot/ign/anywhere boards with more Halo 3 hype, so don't worry, it'll come soon enough. Not trying to flame here, but it's true. And just for the record, I'm getting Halo 3 as well as Bioshock, so I'm not biased here, I just HATE Halo fanboys because with them if it's not Master Chief then it's crap.Ballroompirate

thats a good point i know som people that swear by halo and im currently pictureing them hugging there halo 2 cases muttering to themselves halo 3 will be better then bioshock they will see haha

Wow you just totally leave me in shock onhow stupid you are when you are bashing me for apparently being a Bioshock fanboy which you have no proof of and your the one whos basically drooling over Halo 3's hype like a fly on **** (Halo 3 is a damn good game and series its just not worth it for being geedy for its release when its a little over a month tell its out,if it was like 2 weeks or something I would prolly be more excited for Halo 3 and of course the majority of gamers would have already beaten Bioshock and they look towards the next big thing aka Halo 3).

w/e i dont get why u said that after i complimented u.. all i said was where did the halo 3 hype go. i wasnt complaining or anything. really just wondering. forums are for discussing things right?

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#39 wizdom
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Halo 3 had soo much hype for soo long but then all of the sudden bioshock stole it all. pretty impressive if you ask me.

How did this happen soo fastFrench023

Stolen? Your kidding right?? Halo III hype is still there BS is getting hype because its comming out this sooner, Halo III will still sell more.

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#40 capthavic
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It's only because Bioshock is about to come out. Halo 3 will get tons more hype around September 20th.Trickshot771

Yeah it's really hyped cause it's coming out soon. Check back the week before Halo 3 comes out and see the mountain ofhype.

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#41 PotatoSan
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I doubt many future Halo3 players are even considering buying it.
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#42 capthavic
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I doubt many future Halo3 players are even considering buying it.PotatoSan

I think you'd be surprised.

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#43 Danold
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Have you not seen that Halo 3 is the most viewed 360 game, even 3 days before Bioshocks release? Bioshocks hype is nothing compared to Halo 3.
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#44 PotatoSan
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[QUOTE="PotatoSan"]I doubt many future Halo3 players are even considering buying it.capthavic

I think you'd be surprised.

Nah, you'd be surprised.

Stole it all? Are you kidding? I bet if you went out on the street and asked twenty people what Bioshock was you'd be lucky to even hear, "is it a game?".

If you asked what Halo was even parents would say, "it's that game with the guns in it".

I assure you, Biosock didn't steal jack from Halo. Only the, "hardcore" gamers are going to play Bioshock.

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#45 Dante2710
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I doubt many future Halo3 players are even considering buying it.PotatoSan
im a halo player and im buying it...and i know some other halo players, gears players as well that are gonna get this game as soon as it comes out :?
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#46 PotatoSan
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[QUOTE="PotatoSan"]I doubt many future Halo3 players are even considering buying it.Dante2710
im a halo player and im buying it...and i know some other halo players, gears players as well that are gonna get this game as soon as it comes out :?

You know some other Halo and Gears players who are getting Bioshock. Great. Point is?

It's like the one guy said; ask people in your neighborhood what Bioshock is... they won't have any idea what you are talking about.

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It's something new and exciting. Not Bioshock 1.3.
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#48 FatCat360
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The hype isnt gone its more like dormant. I think there will be more sells of Halo and be more midnight campers getting there hands on the game then Bioshock. Since it appeals to more people. Like awesome multiplayer.
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#49 Nicko2006
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Point is guys you need to face the facts here... Bioshock has a heaps good chance on taking down Halo 3 and IMO i am more hyped about Bioshock then Halo 3 jeeze i am going to Pre-order Bioshock and skip Pre-order on Halo 3...
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#50 jet2892
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Halo 3 had soo much hype for soo long but then all of the sudden bioshock stole it all. pretty impressive if you ask me.

How did this happen soo fastFrench023
It didnt and Ill bet all my money by the time Halo 3 comes around all the Bioshock Hype will be gone