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#1 tomrocks666
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how come there hasnt been any? its out today in the US but not over here yet so i thought IGN would have had one up last night but nope. im guessing epic/people can fly are waiting till people buy it which ive always thought is a little bit of a dirty tactic. anyway if this topic isnt about 1000 pages back by the time there are any. post them all here :)

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#2 Tokeism
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8/10 - http://n4g.com/news/705446/bit-tech-bulletstorm-review
4/5 - http://www.computerandvideogames.com/289954/news/bulletstorm-review-4/5-in-empire/
85/100 - http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/bulletstorm-review
5/5 - http://www.polygamerous.com/2011/02/22/review-bulletstorm/

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Reviews can end up being bad for games. IGN practically killed Medal of Honor's sales. This game had much advertising and such, they will sell more like that. It does kinda suck for the people that are still doubting though. I ordered it because I know the devs are good.
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Reviews can end up being bad for games. IGN practically killed Medal of Honor's sales. This game had much advertising and such, they will sell more like that. It does kinda suck for the people that are still doubting though. I ordered it because I know the devs are good. LustForSoul
if they didnt think the game was up to par why shouldnt they publish it, bending to the will of publishers (or lack there of) only gets people fired... why should you care how much a game sells? do own equity in these firms?
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Ill predict an 8.0 here at GS.

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[QUOTE="LustForSoul"]Reviews can end up being bad for games. IGN practically killed Medal of Honor's sales. This game had much advertising and such, they will sell more like that. It does kinda suck for the people that are still doubting though. I ordered it because I know the devs are good. chaoscougar1
if they didnt think the game was up to par why shouldnt they publish it, bending to the will of publishers (or lack there of) only gets people fired... why should you care how much a game sells? do own equity in these firms?

No, I'm just sharing my thoughts on how companies might look at it. :/ He asked why there are no reviews so I thought the devs don't need it to be reviewed already because the advertising probably did its work. Good reviews are good for sales usually, just saying. Medal of Honor was just an example, the review wasn't good for its sales. While most other reviewers gave it a Solid 7 or 8, IGN gave it a 6. I think they even reviewed it first, so just saying. With their advertising they don't need to risk the sales on reviews, which MIGHT be a reason.

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#7 orb_03_2006
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Ill predict an 8.0 here at GS.

kungfuchaos
Same here.
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="LustForSoul"]Reviews can end up being bad for games. IGN practically killed Medal of Honor's sales. This game had much advertising and such, they will sell more like that. It does kinda suck for the people that are still doubting though. I ordered it because I know the devs are good. LustForSoul

if they didnt think the game was up to par why shouldnt they publish it, bending to the will of publishers (or lack there of) only gets people fired... why should you care how much a game sells? do own equity in these firms?

No, I'm just sharing my thoughts on how companies might look at it. :/ He asked why there are no reviews so I thought the devs don't need it to be reviewed already because the advertising probably did its work. Good reviews are good for sales usually, just saying. Medal of Honor was just an example, the review wasn't good for its sales. While most other reviewers gave it a Solid 7 or 8, IGN gave it a 6. I think they even reviewed it first, so just saying. With their advertising they don't need to risk the sales on reviews, which MIGHT be a reason.

what the hell are you talking about? reviews arent there to boost sales, reviews are supposed to be an unbiased opinion on a game so that consumers can have adequate knowledge when they go to make a purchase. Where the hell did the idea that reviews are a form of marketing come from?
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#9 XCyberForceX
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[QUOTE="kungfuchaos"]

Ill predict an 8.0 here at GS.

orb_03_2006
Same here.

Disagree. I say 8.5 - 9.0!
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[QUOTE="orb_03_2006"][QUOTE="kungfuchaos"]

Ill predict an 8.0 here at GS.

XCyberForceX
Same here.

Disagree. I say 8.5 - 9.0!

If it's not GTA, Halo, or CoD.. it won't score too high.
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#11 LustForSoul
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[QUOTE="LustForSoul"]

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] if they didnt think the game was up to par why shouldnt they publish it, bending to the will of publishers (or lack there of) only gets people fired... why should you care how much a game sells? do own equity in these firms?chaoscougar1

No, I'm just sharing my thoughts on how companies might look at it. :/ He asked why there are no reviews so I thought the devs don't need it to be reviewed already because the advertising probably did its work. Good reviews are good for sales usually, just saying. Medal of Honor was just an example, the review wasn't good for its sales. While most other reviewers gave it a Solid 7 or 8, IGN gave it a 6. I think they even reviewed it first, so just saying. With their advertising they don't need to risk the sales on reviews, which MIGHT be a reason.

what the hell are you talking about? reviews arent there to boost sales, reviews are supposed to be an unbiased opinion on a game so that consumers can have adequate knowledge when they go to make a purchase. Where the hell did the idea that reviews are a form of marketing come from?

For many people it's review first, then a (possibly) purchase. It might not be an official form of marketing but it does boost the sales. I referred it all to MOH, where I believe it did affect the sales. Everything is IMO, I know you're gonna disagree but it's going off-topic. No more response from me.

Now that everyone is rating, I say a solid 8,5 from gamespot!

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]what the hell are you talking about? reviews arent there to boost sales, reviews are supposed to be an unbiased opinion on a game so that consumers can have adequate knowledge when they go to make a purchase. Where the hell did the idea that reviews are a form of marketing come from?LustForSoul

For many people it's review first, then a (possibly) purchase. It might not be an official form of marketing but it does boost the sales. I referred it all to MOH, where I believe it did affect the sales. Everything is IMO, I know you're gonna disagree but it's going off-topic. No more response from me.

Now that everyone is rating, I say a solid 8,5 from gamespot!

thats exactly what it does, it effects peoples decisions, BUT IT IS NOT A FORM OF MARKETING. It is not advertising!

With their advertising they don't need to risk the sales on reviewsLustForSoul

that statement I just cant fathom, generally companies dont pay for reviews (and i say generally with direct reference to this site) they dont risk anything cause they dont have a say. They cant block reviews, its not a form of investment/advertising

Reviews do effect sales, definitely, but they arent there to boost sales. If the review is objectionally favourable, then yes it can boost sales, but that is a by product, not the sole purpose

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[QUOTE="LustForSoul"]

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] For many people it's review first, then a (possibly) purchase. It might not be an official form of marketing but it does boost the sales. I referred it all to MOH, where I believe it did affect the sales. Everything is IMO, I know you're gonna disagree but it's going off-topic. No more response from me.

Now that everyone is rating, I say a solid 8,5 from gamespot!

chaoscougar1

thats exactly what it does, it effects peoples decisions, BUT IT IS NOT A FORM OF MARKETING. It is not advertising!

With their advertising they don't need to risk the sales on reviewsLustForSoul

that statement I just cant fathom, generally companies dont pay for reviews (and i say generally with direct reference to this site) they dont risk anything cause they dont have a say. They cant block reviews, its not a form of investment/advertising

Reviews do effect sales, definitely, but they arent there to boost sales. If the review is objectionally favourable, then yes it can boost sales, but that is a by product, not the sole purpose

OH, didn't know they could review games without permission. They can basically bash the game which wouldn't give it a good name. I know they don't pay for them, request them and that it isn't a form of advertising, I did however think they could forbid them (the reviews) until release... I got my facts wrong, sorry. :D You seemed enraged by my statement by the way.

But yeah, if the review was good they boost the sales, was all I was trying to say.

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]

[QUOTE="LustForSoul"]

thats exactly what it does, it effects peoples decisions, BUT IT IS NOT A FORM OF MARKETING. It is not advertising!

[QUOTE="LustForSoul"]With their advertising they don't need to risk the sales on reviewsLustForSoul

that statement I just cant fathom, generally companies dont pay for reviews (and i say generally with direct reference to this site) they dont risk anything cause they dont have a say. They cant block reviews, its not a form of investment/advertising

Reviews do effect sales, definitely, but they arent there to boost sales. If the review is objectionally favourable, then yes it can boost sales, but that is a by product, not the sole purpose

OH, didn't know they could review games without permission. They can basically bash the game which wouldn't give it a good name. I know they don't pay for them, request them and that it isn't a form of advertising, I did however think they could forbid them (the reviews) until release... I got my facts wrong, sorry. :D You seemed enraged by my statement by the way.

But yeah, if the review was good they boost the sales, was all I was trying to say.

if they have enough buying power they can stop them until release (or like a day before) but that really only affects day 1 sales (if that), their shelf life is a little longer than that (i hope). Sorry, didnt mean to sound angry

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Calm down dude you sound very defensive of review sites..as you said do you own equity in these sites?
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#16 LustForSoul
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Calm down dude you sound very defensive of review sites..as you said do you own equity in these sites?javafriek
Didn't mean to make it sound like that...
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What convinced me of getting the game was the demo. After playing it I knew it was the kind of game I'd like to buy on release. In my opinion playing the demo is far more beneficial to your decision to buying a game than a review. Reviews are good but demos far better. I've played demos that got crappy reviews and realized despite that review this was my type of game.

So as a suggestion TC, play the demo and make your decision based on that.

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[QUOTE="LustForSoul"]With their advertising they don't need to risk the sales on reviewschaoscougar1

that statement I just cant fathom, generally companies dont pay for reviews (and i say generally with direct reference to this site) they dont risk anything cause they dont have a say. They cant block reviews, its not a form of investment/advertising

Reviews do effect sales, definitely, but they arent there to boost sales. If the review is objectionally favourable, then yes it can boost sales, but that is a by product, not the sole purpose

They can avoid sending them a review copy though. Which means they will have to delay their review, since they have to a)buy the game on release b)play the game for an adequate amount of time c)write the review.

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the thing with reviews is that if its a unanimous dont buy this then im pretty sure im not going to pick it up at any point, but some reviews affect whether its day one purchase or whether i wait till it drops in sales. so although reviews arent a form of marketing they majorly effect how well a game sells within the first month or so. with bulletstorm i know im going to buy it because i enjoyed the short but sweet demo i just want to know how well its recieved by the "professionals." thank you to the second poster who linked the reviews. i guess they are there if you know where to look :) from IGN or gamespot. i predict about 8.5 - 9.

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[QUOTE="orb_03_2006"][QUOTE="XCyberForceX"] Disagree. I say 8.5 - 9.0!XCyberForceX

If it's not GTA, Halo, or CoD.. it won't score too high.

DANG IT! YUR RIGHT! GAMESPOT GAVE IT AN 8.0!

Darn it, and here I thought they'd score at least an 8,5 for being connected to the GOW devs.

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im just gonna watch the gametrailers review now. and guess what the money grabbing bunch of *enter swear word here* have done? announced DLC already....

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[QUOTE="orb_03_2006"][QUOTE="XCyberForceX"] Disagree. I say 8.5 - 9.0!XCyberForceX

If it's not GTA, Halo, or CoD.. it won't score too high.

DANG IT! YUR RIGHT! GAMESPOT GAVE IT AN 8.0!

why is 8 a bad score?
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#24 LustForSoul
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[QUOTE="XCyberForceX"]

[QUOTE="orb_03_2006"] If it's not GTA, Halo, or CoD.. it won't score too high.chaoscougar1

DANG IT! YUR RIGHT! GAMESPOT GAVE IT AN 8.0!

why is 8 a bad score?

He never said it was a bad score. He just danged it because he thought it was going to be higher.
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="XCyberForceX"]

DANG IT! YUR RIGHT! GAMESPOT GAVE IT AN 8.0!

LustForSoul

why is 8 a bad score?

He never said it was a bad score. He just danged it because he thought it was going to be higher.

unless something gets a 10 people never seem to be happy, if it got 8.5 it should have gotten a 9, if it got a 9 it should have got a 9.5.

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[QUOTE="LustForSoul"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] why is 8 a bad score?chaoscougar1

He never said it was a bad score. He just danged it because he thought it was going to be higher.

unless something gets a 10 people never seem to be happy, if it got 8.5 it should have gotten a 9, if it got a 9 it should have got a 9.5.

Even if it got a 6.0 I was going to play it because I was impressed by the demo and it looked like lots of fun. My predication was the only thing I "DANGED". In my opinion, and I stated this before, playing the demo and making a decision based on that is a far greater indicator of whether you're going to like a game rather than a review. But ... if a review is the only thing you have, try to view at least three separate reviews to get a well rounded picture.
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#27 XCyberForceX
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In an older post I used all caps. It wasn't intended as shouting but may have been interpreted as it. For the record I did not intent it to symboplize shouting and apologize to anyone who may have taken it that way. I consider my moderation a lesson in Forum etiquetteand shall strive never to make that mistake again.

Next time I Dang, I'll dang it properly :D

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Only an 8? I would have thought it would get at least an 8.5, but it's really just based on the reviewer's opinion. I've seen reviews of Bulletstorm range from 8/10 to 10/10. Even if it isn't scoring a perfect 10, that's pretty good to be a consistent 8-10 rating. I'm going to like the game from what I've seen and from playing the demo several times over. Admittedly, the controls are clunky at times and the scoring system has a habit of not catching combos or not counting them because, for example, you clip the edge of a staircase while attempting a Voo Doo combo.