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#1 kungfuchaos
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here is how I know. I am a very average FPS player with my K/D hovering around 1-1.20. I hadn't played Black ops for almost 3 weeks and jumped on the other night for the heck of it. I played 4 matches of Hardcore TDM. First match...13-7...Second match ...14-8...Third match...12-9 and the last match...15-10. While these are not stellar number by any means, it is proof that anyone with an ounce of ability can be successful at CoD. So anyone out there that thinks they are some FPS god because of CoD...Get over yourselves!!!!

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#2 nottu
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So because you have an average KD ratio the game takes no skill? Ever thought that the people you're playing with suck? The less skill your oponents have the more skill it's gunna seem that you have. If you play a match with people that are actually at you're skill level then you'll see that it actually does take skill to perform well.
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#3 Flamingpostman
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yeah ive figured this out a long time ago...

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#4 F0urTwenty
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How many *facepalm* threads am i going to read today? Saying any multiplayer game takes no skill is just wrong.
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#5 deactivated-5e7f8a21de9dd
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Maybe CoD's matchmaking sucks for this kind of stuff because it's based off rank and not skill...?

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#6 sixgears2
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So, because you had 4 good matches in a row you have jumped to the conclusion that CoD takes no skill? I suppose the same would hold true if you had had 4 good matches on Halo or Battlefield? Besides, players with "an ounce of ability" should be able to succeed at a shooter from time to time. You think only the best players in the world should be able to post mediocre numbers like the ones you mentioned? Don't come on here and make snap judgements just because you got on a very modest hot streak without having played for a while.
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#7 JadeNic
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Well this makes me feel kind of bad. I'm absolutely horrible at CoD, and most first person shooters in general. So there must be some sort of skill involved. A skill I most definitely lack.

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#8 deactivated-5e7f8a21de9dd
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Well this makes me feel kind of bad. I'm absolutely horrible at CoD, and most first person shooters in general. So there must be some sort of skill involved. A skill I most definitely lack.

JadeNic

Try asking someone on youtube who thinks they're MLG and has about 10-15 subscribers to get in a game with you and teach you some tips.

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#9 craigalan23
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It takes skill apparently because those numbers aren't impressive. I thought you would be saying 34-7, 30-5, and etc but 13-7 is just bad.
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#10 F0urTwenty
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It takes skill apparently because those numbers aren't impressive. I thought you would be saying 34-7, 30-5, and etc but 13-7 is just bad. craigalan23
My thoughts exactly. He says it takes no skill but the scores he got were just bad.
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#11 gooter
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It takes excellent reflexes

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#12 geriatricbadger
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If COD takes no skill then how are people better than you? Most good people consider those games you listed as horrible games.

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#13 gta4_2112
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COD does actually take skill. To say it doesn't is just wrong. Also your scores weren't even that good.

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#14 sixgears2
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If COD takes no skill then how are people better than you? Most good people consider those games you listed as horrible games.

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Exactly... A 1.5 K/D over four straight games is considered disappointing to most top-tier players. I've been struggling to keep my K/D up in the 1.9's, and even that isn't considered particularly impressive by most of the elite players. So really, you're just an average player with average match performance.
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#15 Xeogua
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Ok, I'm glad you have an opinion, do you want a cookie?

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#16 kungfuchaos
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If you chuckleheads read my post I admitted to being very mediocre at FPS's. Ive never once claimed I was that good. As far as my numbers go if you guys think those are bad, then you must also think that 75% of all participants in any given match on Black Ops suck as well. Because I hardly ever see a match where besides maybe only 1-3 guys are better than 15 kills. In fact I see 3-6 guys each and every match that go 7-13. Id love to play against any of you who talk a big game. In fact Im betting half of you that responded suck at FPS and just talk BS on here!!

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#17 dirtydishko2
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here is how I know. I am a very average FPS player with my K/D hovering around 1-1.20. I hadn't played Black ops for almost 3 weeks and jumped on the other night for the heck of it. I played 4 matches of Hardcore TDM. First match...13-7...Second match ...14-8...Third match...12-9 and the last match...15-10. While these are not stellar number by any means, it is proof that anyone with an ounce of ability can be successful at CoD. So anyone out there that thinks they are some FPS god because of CoD...Get over yourselves!!!!

kungfuchaos
Hmm. This may just be THE most vague and poorly thought out statement I've read all day. Can you please elaborate? Your k/d ratio hovers around 1-1.2? In which game? Multiple games? Which games? Did you really compile an average k/d ratio drawn from your records in all of the FPS games that you play? And what is your example of a FPS that DOES take a lot of skill to excell in? What is it EXACTLY about COD that makes it so easy?
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#18 LetsPlayer
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Well not so much "no skill" as much as less skill then other games.
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#19 chaoscougar1
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How many *facepalm* threads am i going to read today? Saying any multiplayer game takes no skill is just wrong.F0urTwenty
agreed, you say that you better have a K/D over 5. And in theory, if it does take no skill, everyone should have a K/D over 5. I really do dislike any thread which claims that a game 'takes no skill' absolute nonsence
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#20 DvnDrgnXD
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[QUOTE="kungfuchaos"]

here is how I know. I am a very average FPS player with my K/D hovering around 1-1.20. I hadn't played Black ops for almost 3 weeks and jumped on the other night for the heck of it. I played 4 matches of Hardcore TDM. First match...13-7...Second match ...14-8...Third match...12-9 and the last match...15-10. While these are not stellar number by any means, it is proof that anyone with an ounce of ability can be successful at CoD. So anyone out there that thinks they are some FPS god because of CoD...Get over yourselves!!!!

dirtydishko2
Hmm. This may just be THE most vague and poorly thought out statement I've read all day. Can you please elaborate? Your k/d ratio hovers around 1-1.2? In which game? Multiple games? Which games? Did you really compile an average k/d ratio drawn from your records in all of the FPS games that you play? And what is your example of a FPS that DOES take a lot of skill to excell in? What is it EXACTLY about COD that makes it so easy?

Got to love how uneducated people don't define their terms and make a half hearted attack at one of the greatest games of all time.
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#21 JakHoff
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Sure but the same goes for any FPS out there.
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#22 winnabago111
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You pretty much said that your KD is around 1.2 and that you played some games from Call of Duty and had a KD similar to 1.2. Which means that you did just as well as you in other games but not better.

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#23 winnabago111
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Which also means by your definition that no multiplayer game where you get a 1.2 kd takes skill.
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#24 James161324
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This is pretty old news. Any game that you die in .25 secs that has lag. Doesn't take skill, its about connection

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#25 F0urTwenty
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This is pretty old news. Any game that you die in .25 secs that has lag. Doesn't take skill, its about connection

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*facepalm*. A day of facepalms indeed.
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#26 craigalan23
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If you chuckleheads read my post I admitted to being very mediocre at FPS's. Ive never once claimed I was that good. As far as my numbers go if you guys think those are bad, then you must also think that 75% of all participants in any given match on Black Ops suck as well. Because I hardly ever see a match where besides maybe only 1-3 guys are better than 15 kills. In fact I see 3-6 guys each and every match that go 7-13. Id love to play against any of you who talk a big game. In fact Im betting half of you that responded suck at FPS and just talk BS on here!!

kungfuchaos
Yep there are a lot of people that are bad at COD but it still doesn't mean that it requires no skill. You did slightly better than you normally do for four rounds so just because you did better than normal the game no longer requires any skill? If that was true you should at least have a 2+ KDR. I have fantastic matches sometimes but does that mean I am a pro now? You seem to be getting angry over nothing.
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#27 tehsystemwarior
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You were playing Hardcore, so that might explain it.
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#28 alvin201
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here is how I know. I am a very average FPS player with my K/D hovering around 1-1.20. I hadn't played Black ops for almost 3 weeks and jumped on the other night for the heck of it. I played 4 matches of Hardcore TDM. First match...13-7...Second match ...14-8...Third match...12-9 and the last match...15-10. While these are not stellar number by any means, it is proof that anyone with an ounce of ability can be successful at CoD. So anyone out there that thinks they are some FPS god because of CoD...Get over yourselves!!!!

kungfuchaos
go play vs a clan from mlg.... im sure you will change your mind
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#29 firefox59
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The title is true, but the game does take strategy. You may not like noobtubing, no scoping and double shotguns but adapting to the game for what it is is part of the strategy. Its up to you to change your gameplay, or stop playing.

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#30 limpbizkit818
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While it is true that Black ops takes less "skill" then past cod titles (aka CoD2), saying it takes no skill is hyperbolic.

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#31 RudySmashlocks
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Those numbers really aren't enough for you to proclaim that CoD takes no skill. Sorry buddy.
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#32 RudySmashlocks
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Black ops might take less "skill" then past cod titles (aka CoD2), saying it takes no skill is hyperbolic.

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#33 sixgears2
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If you chuckleheads read my post I admitted to being very mediocre at FPS's. Ive never once claimed I was that good. As far as my numbers go if you guys think those are bad, then you must also think that 75% of all participants in any given match on Black Ops suck as well. Because I hardly ever see a match where besides maybe only 1-3 guys are better than 15 kills. In fact I see 3-6 guys each and every match that go 7-13. Id love to play against any of you who talk a big game. In fact Im betting half of you that responded suck at FPS and just talk BS on here!!

kungfuchaos

So your argument is that you are an average player that played some average games? Nice, I can definitely see your logic there. Your whole argument relies on the numbers you supplied being impressive - they aren't. Seems like a mediocre player having mediocre to mildly successful games would make sense in a skill-based game, does it not?

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#34 KBFloYd
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your scores were crap dude...30 and 10 or 50 and 10 are skill scores..

how about 40-1 :o

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#35 gamedude234
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i agree

just watch thishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RULv6HbgEjY

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#36 superfluidity
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In the more recent ones, the skill cap seems noticably lower than most other shooters I've played. There are also many ways to get cheap kills that are very diffiult to prevent, which has the effect of equalizing scores.

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#37 penpusher
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here is how I know. I am a very average FPS player with my K/D hovering around 1-1.20. I hadn't played Black ops for almost 3 weeks and jumped on the other night for the heck of it. I played 4 matches of Hardcore TDM. First match...13-7...Second match ...14-8...Third match...12-9 and the last match...15-10. While these are not stellar number by any means, it is proof that anyone with an ounce of ability can be successful at CoD. So anyone out there that thinks they are some FPS god because of CoD...Get over yourselves!!!!

kungfuchaos
well done,,,did you figure this out all by yourself or did you read it in a book somewhere? ...
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#38 miwak24
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I think COD falls into the typical games guys play as Fifa etc. They like playing it together but they might not do much gaming outside of those games, so they can't make it too tough.
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#39 colganraz
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try using a tomahawk, crossbow and a sniper, if you get a good ratio then that is skill! yeeee boyyyy!

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#40 Truthful_Facade
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The skill in CoD comes from map knowledge, spawn knowledge and some accuracy with a gun. If you understand and can perform those three things well you're bound to do great at Call of Duty. There is luck involved i.e. stupid players, lucky spawns. And who knows those "great games" you posted you probably was sitting in a corner aiming down your sights, it was hardcore TDM . It does take skill but that skill comes from using your brain to outwit other players

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#41 wazzmalo
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lol i figured that out a long time ago! COD is a game i play whenever i'm in the mood for shooting ****

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#42 2pac_makaveli
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i wont go as far as saying it doesnt take skill (that would cause too many fights), however there are too many ppl that use camping, overpowered unbalanced guns, kill streaks, and perks (granted I quit the series at mw2) that give ppl the impression that they are really good at the game and have skill.

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#43 mohfrontline
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It's certainly not hard. Anyone can do well. I wouldn't say it takes "no" skill, there is some skill involved.
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#44 Megaflush24
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Definitely some skill in involved.
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#45 caseyw62
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first off u never got above 15 kills which is a poor game for people that are good at it if u aint gettin 30 or more kills in hardcore then u suck dont bad mouth the game
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#46 deactivated-5e92353f2263a
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If someone was getting 30+ kills in Black Ops, Im pretty sure at least 25% or more of those kills were from killstreaks! If you get 30+ kills in, lets say Halo Reach, then THAT'S skill...

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#47 SouL-Tak3R
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Anyone can kill, it is a shooter after all. But just so you know that is not a good k/d ratio. And big deal you went positive, you think you're good? Go 40-2 almost every single game without wild killstreak kills. Then we'll talk. Oh, and you have to be moving around the map the whole time, not just sitting in a corner waiting for the unsuspecting.

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#48 kungfuchaos
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first off u never got above 15 kills which is a poor game for people that are good at it if u aint gettin 30 or more kills in hardcore then u suck dont bad mouth the game caseyw62
How many people in a match of Hardcore TDM do you see getting 30 kills per match? Maybe one guy per game..maybe. It is very rare that I see anyone get more than 20-25 and most people are in the 12-20 range. Maybe you should get some knowledge about Black Ops and keep your trap shut!!!

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#49 Sacif
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My lack of skill is so bad it drained all of the skill ever for COD Black Ops..Im sorry guys :(

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#50 firefox59
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Anyone can kill, it is a shooter after all. But just so you know that is not a good k/d ratio. And big deal you went positive, you think you're good? Go 40-2 almost every single game without wild killstreak kills. Then we'll talk. Oh, and you have to be moving around the map the whole time, not just sitting in a corner waiting for the unsuspecting.

SouL-Tak3R
It's pretty sad if there are people that are that good at this game.