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#1 Zandroz
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Hey all,

I was just thinking about this today at work... do you think the CoD series will ever venture in the Vietnam War?

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#2 Crystal-Rush
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Hey all,

I was just thinking about this today at work... do you think the CoD series will ever venture in the Vietnam War?

Zandroz
probably not because they lost that battle and the fact that there would be too many trench and tunnel sequences
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#3 xmen1414
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[QUOTE="Zandroz"]

Hey all,

I was just thinking about this today at work... do you think the CoD series will ever venture in the Vietnam War?

That would be so amazing! Getting ambused, have your squad ripped to shreads by swinging spike logs!! Falling in traps!! Taking out your m16/m14 and blowing away the VC!! Than you could have a VC campagin!!! Or even better a VC zombie mode, lol!!!! Im serious! It would be a awesome game, it would bbe like 100x more brutal that W@W, if thats a good thing!!
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#4 Vashn
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too much controversey over it when it was happening, and still is. It would be kind of rude to the guys that fought in it
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#5 Jaysonguy
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No

Don't expect them to make a game over a war that the American military lost and so many are still scarred from it today..

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#6 Zandroz
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No

Don't expect them to make a game over a war that the American military lost and so many are still scarred from it today..

Yeah.. I figured they wouldn't. Just curious on what others thought as well.
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#7 gamerfreak1991
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I thought about that too, it would be badass but it wouldn't happen. Too much controversy.
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#8 a_beautiful_lie
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As good as Vietnam movies can be, Vietnam video games have never gone well. I doubt it'll happen just knowing the history of failure in Vietnam era video games.
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#9 mrgab
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Hope not, sounds like a boring game. Rather return to modern day or go a few years in the futre(perhaps like from Aliens)
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#10 faultyerror
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I think it'd be really cool. There are already games that take place during that time, aren't there? I don't see why the CoD series can't go there. And I don't see what losing has to do with it all. My grandad says the Americans didn't 'lose' in the war, they were forced to retreat. But he was in living in Saigon at the time so I don't know, he probably doesn't know much about what went on in America.

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#11 LittleToejam
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wait whats cod5 about i see videos of like enemies wearing tree branches. is that vietnam?
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#12 TigerFangRed
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wait whats cod5 about i see videos of like enemies wearing tree branches. is that vietnam?LittleToejam
No, it's World War 2.
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#13 lahdeedah
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wait whats cod5 about i see videos of like enemies wearing tree branches. is that vietnam?LittleToejam
You're fighting the japanese.
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#14 Pittfan666
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I'd rather have a call of duty game with futuristic weapons or WW1.
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#15 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="LittleToejam"]wait whats cod5 about i see videos of like enemies wearing tree branches. is that vietnam?lahdeedah
You're fighting the Japanese

Edit your post like I have, we don't need racism here

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#16 lahdeedah
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[QUOTE="lahdeedah"][QUOTE="LittleToejam"]wait whats cod5 about i see videos of like enemies wearing tree branches. is that vietnam?Jaysonguy

You're fighting the Japanese

Edit your post like I have, we don't need racism here

That was racist..how? But, okay.
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#17 LittleToejam
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oh yeah i saw the movie Windtalkers and it looks like u do a reanactment in the game. do you get to run up the trenches with machine guns?
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#18 Zandroz
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I'd rather have a call of duty game with futuristic weapons or WW1.Pittfan666
Yeah that would be cool. I wonder what a CoD game in the Civil War would be like? Probably pretty slow paced I'd imagine.
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#19 wwedx
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i have NO idea what that war was but it sounds cool from these replies
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#20 Five_Star_MD
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We already had Conflict: Vietnam and that wasn't that great of a game.

COD should stay away. They should predict the future and start the second cold war with Russia & China. Now that would be awesome.

Fighting Russia & China on a global scale until someone blows up the world.

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#21 fat_otter
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From 2003-2005 there were several Vietnam games released with developers thinking that America was ready for Vietnam games, but most of them sold poorly and the developers thus decided not to release any more Nam games. So in my view, no.
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#22 faceman420
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there's been some fairly recent vietnam war shooters so it can be done.. and infinity ward would make an awesome vietnam game, but they will likely just revisit the modern war scenario, hopefully with a substantial revamping to justify a purchase.
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#23 faceman420
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From 2003-2005 there were several Vietnam games released with developers thinking that America was ready for Vietnam games, but most of them sold poorly and the developers thus decided not to release any more Nam games. So in my view, no.fat_otter

 

I think the bigger issue with those games were that they just weren't all that great.. n I don't think they were even released on consoles, were they? It's hard to sell big on PC.

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#24 wwervin
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I don't understand why it matters who won. It's a bit biased don't you think? It's the same old fight for our country be a soldier patriotic bull. What if instead of always being the US military, how about letting you pick a side? And it doesn't have to be based on the entire war, do what CoD4 did and just create some events and have a few battles instead of focusing on the giant picture. I think if they really wanted to, they could create a Vietnam game but they're probably not going to which is a shame because it could be a lot of fun.
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#25 wwervin
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Also, dealing with loss doesn't make a bad game... I recall in CoD4 there's a mission where after you complete the mission, you watch a cutscene of a nuclear bomb going off. Technically, that's a loss for your side, but it didn't matter because it just kept the story rolling. Setting a game in a war we didn't win doesn't necessarily matter, so long as you get to interact in it.
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#26 breedy88
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they **** should. im soooo sick of these god damn ww2 games. theres already 500 of those, we need some new material. modern warfare was these best idea for a shooter in years, they should have stuck with modern or gone to vietnam, not **** ww2....again
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#27 wwervin
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Has there ever been a WWI game? Maybe trench warfare isn't that fun.. but idk... Has it been done before?
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#28 adders99
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too much controversey over it when it was happening, and still is. It would be kind of rude to the guys that fought in it Vashn

are you serious? there have been many vietnam games in the past. . . and how exactly is it rude to the guys that fought in vietnam.

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#29 wwervin
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[QUOTE="Vashn"]too much controversey over it when it was happening, and still is. It would be kind of rude to the guys that fought in it adders99

are you serious? there have been many vietnam games in the past. . . and how exactly is it rude to the guys that fought in vietnam.

If that's rude, what about the countless WWII vets? Shouldn't pretty much ever call of duty game besides 4 be rude to them? His post makes no sense.
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#30 xmen1414
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[QUOTE="wwervin"][QUOTE="adders99"]

too much controversey over it when it was happening, and still is. It would be kind of rude to the guys that fought in it Vashn

are you serious? there have been many vietnam games in the past. . . and how exactly is it rude to the guys that fought in vietnam.

If that's rude, what about the countless WWII vets? Shouldn't pretty much ever call of duty game besides 4 be rude to them? His post makes no sense.

Well we won WWII, and the Vets from it, well all Vets, want to be rembered. We lost 300,000 or so men there but it was or a reason. We lost Nam and people want to forget about it because we were there for pretty much no reason..... i think a Nam game would be awesome though
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#31 Dredg11
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From 2003-2005 there were several Vietnam games released with developers thinking that America was ready for Vietnam games, but most of them sold poorly and the developers thus decided not to release any more Nam games. So in my view, no.fat_otter

I agree with this statement. Although I have to say Battlefield Vietnam was an awesome game.

While I do agree with your statement. I think the COD franchise would sell ok if it did a Vietnam game. Especially with the momentum it's picked up since Call of Duty 4. I've been a COD gamer since the original, and the franchise has never been this big. With a GOTY title like COD 4, and now with COD: WaW doing well, COD could definitely venture into Vietnam and remain popular.

The COD game mechanics (especially since COD 4) are much better than any Vietnam game done to date. Graphically, Vietnam has a lot of cool areas to work with. Personally, I'd LOVE to see COD go Vietnam.

That, or like I said before, a not too distant future. Like 20-30 years in the future. Today's weapons with a bit of a future feel. I don't want plasma rifles and crap like that. COD 4 gameplay, GRAW weapons.

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#32 Palantas
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Developers have the technology to create a realistic jungle, so I don't see any reason not to make a Vietnam shooter.

too much controversey over it when it was happening, and still is. It would be kind of rude to the guys that fought in it

Vashn

As others have noted, other games have been made about other conflicts/wars that have living veterans. They made Delta Force: Black Hawk Down, and no one was upset about it. Videogames have never shyed away from controversy anyway. I don't think there would be much of a problem, if a Vietnam shooter just portrayed engagements between professional soldiers. That is, don't have little girls covered in napalm and stuff like that. We have World War II games without long cutscenes/sequences in concentration camps. Most historical shooters just stick to the combat.

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#33 koolaidWTF
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i think it would be cool if CoD did venue off and do a Vietnam game, I would give it a try. Anyway people are saying that too many people will get offended by it and that it would be rude to the vets. But what about all the TV specials, movies, and so on about Vietnam, they weren't saying look at this WE LOST YAY no their honoring them by telling the story that they went through. This game will put you in the shoes of those vets that fought in it, it will open up your eyes to what they went through. So instead of hurting people I think it would help people.
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#34 mohfrontline
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it might be cool, but it would never happen because we lost the war. There would be too much politics involved to make a game, and the media would be all over it.
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#35 adders99
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[QUOTE="wwervin"][QUOTE="adders99"]

are you serious? there have been many vietnam games in the past. . . and how exactly is it rude to the guys that fought in vietnam.

xmen1414

If that's rude, what about the countless WWII vets? Shouldn't pretty much ever call of duty game besides 4 be rude to them? His post makes no sense.

Well we won WWII, and the Vets from it, well all Vets, want to be rembered. We lost 300,000 or so men there but it was or a reason. We lost Nam and people want to forget about it because we were there for pretty much no reason..... i think a Nam game would be awesome though

im pretty sure all the vets from vietnam want to be remembered to... i dont expect going out and fighting a war was on thier "to do list".

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#36 TheKenny
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Well, speaking AS a vet (Afghanistan), I'd have to say winning or losing doesn't really matter as far as a video game.

 Seriously, we don't do this job for the thanks (or lack thereof), and even then, if you're looking to be remembered by a game you're doing it wrong. I personally had no problems with accurate and inaccurate portrayals of the military in COD4- it's just a fun game, take it at that.

 I think the issue is that the previous Vietnam games out there were just mediocre at best for other reasons. Now as technology has caught up and CoD is starting to get a little stale with WWII (IMO), I think a Vietnam game could be cool. Use some of the Tech that Far Cry and Crysis pioneered to make the dense jungle environments and it could be fun, at least from the special forces side. Lots of sneaking and stuff.

 BUT gamers want variety, and there simply weren't the large-scale tank and vehicle battles and such that have become the hallmark of games these days. The developer would probably have to rely on smaller engagements, and unless the story and gameplay can hold up the lack of variety, it may not work.

 I wouldn't mind seeing a Korean war game. Move on from WWII and open up some new battlefields of Korea- could be cool, especially with modern envronmental effects.

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#37 punkpunker
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well the korean war would fit the next game because North Korean Army(NKA) invade amass near the mountans and open field. + you have to defend at DMZ as the start of the game/war.
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#38 Ghaora
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oh yeah i saw the movie Windtalkers and it looks like u do a reanactment in the game. do you get to run up the trenches with machine guns?LittleToejam

 Call Of Duty: World At War is a total rip off of two movies.

'WindTalkers' (The American invasion of Japan) and 'Enemy At The Gates' (The Russian invasion of Germany)

Pretty much the entire American part of WAW is stolen directly from WindTalkers, right down to the mountain that you can see in the distance with the giant artillery cannon sticking out of it.

As for Enemy At The Gates, WAW steals an entire scene. Exactly as it happens, in the very beginning of the Russian campaign. The only thing they changed is that he doesn't shoot the General right there and then.

As for the topic, no there will never be a good game based on the Vietnam war. Mainly because it was guerilla warfare, there were no major offenses other than the ones that the Americans lost and I dont see an American company telling those stories. Also you may sit there and think that the traps used in the Vietnam war were 'cool' or whatever the hell you said, but that was the most terrifying part of the war. The Allied soldiers couldn't even take a step without having to prey it wouldn't be their last.

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#39 lm2f
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cod needs to die
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#40 Samslayer
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I'd much rather play a war game about a war that I am proud of, WWII. Vietnam was an error on our part, and a lot of people paid the price for that incident. Please understand though that I do respect, with all my heart, all the US troops that faught in Vietnam, and every war that our country has been in!
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#41 xmen1414
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[QUOTE="xmen1414"][QUOTE="wwervin"] If that's rude, what about the countless WWII vets? Shouldn't pretty much ever call of duty game besides 4 be rude to them? His post makes no sense.

adders99

Well we won WWII, and the Vets from it, well all Vets, want to be rembered. We lost 300,000 or so men there but it was or a reason. We lost Nam and people want to forget about it because we were there for pretty much no reason..... i think a Nam game would be awesome though

im pretty sure all the vets from vietnam want to be remembered to... i dont expect going out and fighting a war was on thier "to do list".

Thats not what i meant about Nam, ALL vets want to be rembered, like i said, the country want to forget Nam
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#42 SSBFan12
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[QUOTE="Zandroz"]

Hey all,

I was just thinking about this today at work... do you think the CoD series will ever venture in the Vietnam War?

No the next COD game will be futuristic.
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#43 jake_dog
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I have been dying for a good Vietnam game on the consoles. Anyone ever played Battlefield Vietnam? Incredible game. The maps and gameplay were awesome. One of my favorite multiplayer games of all time. Hopefully someone will pick the ball up and make a good Vietnam game for the consoles.
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#44 stringer4
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[QUOTE="Zandroz"]

Hey all,

I was just thinking about this today at work... do you think the CoD series will ever venture in the Vietnam War?

SSBFan12
No the next COD game will be futuristic.

hey I remember you! You were the kid who didn't know what dead or alive extreme was and then an hour later posted the questoin "which girl has the best knockers"
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#46 Domnarrag
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from what i have heard read watched and talked about the US were winning but changed what classified as a win from k/d ratio to something else the were winning at a 10/1 k/d ratio

veterans said they wanted to win but no one let them

i would have to say it wouldn't be boring you could have lots of combat like hamburger hill or bombing the ho chi min trail

yes there are games and new games coming out like shell-shock 2 blood trails but none could do it like call of duty could both trey-arch and infinity ward do great jobs but infinity ward doesn't stick to history and goes off to do historic fiction and that's not really call of duty series

it would be like no other Vietnam game out

my friend is Vietnamese (becoming a citizen soon) and we get along great so i don't think there would be any real tension

unrelated note: does anybody know when the cod waw map pack is gonna come out?

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#47 JayQproductions
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why do so many people say a VC game would be good when they have already made 3 or 4 of them and they all sucked and no i doubt call of duty would go there, hell after Modern Warfare 2 they prolly wont even go back to WW2
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that would suck
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[QUOTE="adders99"]

[QUOTE="Vashn"]too much controversey over it when it was happening, and still is. It would be kind of rude to the guys that fought in it wwervin

are you serious? there have been many vietnam games in the past. . . and how exactly is it rude to the guys that fought in vietnam.

If that's rude, what about the countless WWII vets? Shouldn't pretty much ever call of duty game besides 4 be rude to them? His post makes no sense.

rude to those but not rude to the vets of the current wars with Modern Warfare?
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#50 nate_c-12
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probualy not even though i have my fingers crossed.