COD4 Knife Broken?

First off, I love COD4 and think it's a fantastic game.

One thing that bugs me though, is when a guy who is 5 feet away can lunge forward and "slide" towards you and knife you in the face...

I have to admit, knifing someone in cod4 is extremely satisfying, but it is somewhat annoying when someone who is 5 feet away or more can lunge towards you and kill you instantly. Has anyone else noticed this?

Also, the hit detection of knifing can sometimes be way off. I've seen killcams where the knifer swings and stabs air yet I'm still toast.

I don't mean to complain, just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this "lunging" or no-contact issue.

At the end of the day though, COD4 still rules. Hopefully they'll come out w/ even more DL content soon.

it might be due to lag can ping....so yeah...Serial-No_3404

haha true. Thing is, I'm a pretty solid run n gunner w/ my mp5 and sometimes when a guy is within safe killing distance (about 5 feet away and i know that i have enough time/space to take him out (only 3-4 bullets w/ stopping power on) before he could possibly reach me, he might lunge forward several feet without the animation of his feet running and stick me good.

It's just annoying when i'm on a good streak and some guy lunges several feet to stab me in the face. I mean, more props to them, but it's not cool if it's a bug no one has noticed/fixed.

-Sc1ssorhands (gamertag)

It's not broken at all.

If you dont believe that the knife has issues then hear me out. Go and create a class with a silenced g3 of course you have to earn if first but just try. You will see that the g3 is way delayed. Heres a video to porve it,

here

I think it all evens out in the end, people knife me from 5 feet away ( but to me it looks like they run not slide ) and I do the same. I like knifing people better from behind, because I know they are thinking..."Where the heck did that guy come from?"

I think overall it is a fair part of the game, I mean I have knifed someone through a wall before, that was pretty funny, but since that didnt happen TO me I am ok with it!

My worst Knife incident was really, really frustrating.

I was trying to Knife this guy in the back, and they literally were running around like nothing was happening with their back to me, as they hadn't noticed me at all. He ran around, stopped a few times to shoot (only a fraction of a second) and even backed up and ran forward once or twice. Basically, I had come up behind him and thought, "Wow! Awesome Knife moment!" Well, I was very, very wrong. I did the whole "stabbing" animation, not the swinging one, as in I was that close, and he was fine. Confused, I tried to Knife him as he started to run to the side, but again, nothing. We ran around for a good 30 seconds, a long a$$ time, with me trying to Knife him the whole time. And if you're wondering, no, I wasn't going to shoot him after failing to Knife him and him still not noticing me; I was going to get my Knife kill dammit. I swung a rediculous amount of times, several times doing the "stabbing" animation, but still nadda, then suddenly he turned around, sees me, and stabs me right there... WTF!!!

I mean, he didn't even lag on my screen, he just fricken stabbed me and I died. I got him back later with a Sniper round to the head through a wall, but still, that one instance pissed me off so much. I actually haven't played since then. It's been about a month and I've just been playing Halo 3, and most recently, GTA IV, but now that I'm bored with that game and thinking about CoD4 again, I think I might play it... nah, way too close to my level 45 in Halo. Maybe after that.

ya, i totally agree with you about the physics where 2 bullets to a guys chest won't stop him from lunging and stabbing a brotha.

In response to the lag, i don't believe it is, because when watching the killcam, he still lunged at me the 5 feet or so...

i was perplexed.

I've noticed the knife bug, as well. But it is not nearly as bad as when my RPGs disappear in mid air when I'm shot. That gets a real rise out of me.GSU28

this man said it. Where the hell did my RPG go? That's way more annoying than the "knife glitch".

yep, I agree. But you really shouldn't be getting close enough to people for them to knife you in the first place.mohfrontline

What if you're a shotgunner mate- sometimes it is necessary to get up close, CQB is a massive part of why COD 4 on Multiplayer is so tense, especially maps like Vacant- Making it all the more irritating when your shotgun blast to the head doesn't bother to reg, but god if they can't hit you from 5 metres away with a knife about a second after you've fired.

First off, I love COD4 and think it's a fantastic game.

One thing that bugs me though, is when a guy who is 5 feet away can lunge forward and "slide" towards you and knife you in the face...

I have to admit, knifing someone in cod4 is extremely satisfying, but it is somewhat annoying when someone who is 5 feet away or more can lunge towards you and kill you instantly. Has anyone else noticed this?

Also, the hit detection of knifing can sometimes be way off. I've seen killcams where the knifer swings and stabs air yet I'm still toast.

I don't mean to complain, just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this "lunging" or no-contact issue.

At the end of the day though, COD4 still rules. Hopefully they'll come out w/ even more DL content soon.

wiiman555

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]it might be due to lag can ping....so yeah...blue_tape

I always use SMG's, so it's all about the CQC to me, and yes knife hit detection is off. You can even see it when you play local split screen multiplayer. So there goes the lag argument as well.

The game has really bad bullet lag/hit detection. I've had many, many times where I've loaded half a clip into someone and they don't even get hurt yet a couple shots from them and I'm dead (and it's truly a case of a lag since the kill cam shows me either never firing or only getting off a couple shots in those circumstances). I've had times where I've tried to knife a person point blank while they're busy sniping, stabbed them like 5 or 6 times, the hit never registers, then they finally realize what's going on and turn around and kill me with a pistol.

And of course the reverse is also true sometimes such as a magical 7 foot leap with a knife or a sniper one-hit killing a person because they shot the vital organs in their victim's foot.

The game has really bad bullet lag/hit detection. I've had many, many times where I've loaded half a clip into someone and they don't even get hurt yet a couple shots from them and I'm dead (and it's truly a case of a lag since the kill cam shows me either never firing or only getting off a couple shots in those circumstances). I've had times where I've tried to knife a person point blank while they're busy sniping, stabbed them like 5 or 6 times, the hit never registers, then they finally realize what's going on and turn around and kill me with a pistol.

And of course the reverse is also true sometimes such as a magical 7 foot leap with a knife or a sniper one-hit killing a person because they shot the vital organs in their victim's foot.

gameguy6700

That first part happens to me a ton. I fire off enough shots that I think would kill them, only to see on their kill cam I never fired a single shot...

On his screen, he's right next to you.

The slide is probably some slight lag issue

I have to admit, knifing someone in cod4 is extremely satisfying, but it is somewhat annoying when someone who is 5 feet away or more can lunge towards you and kill you instantly. Has anyone else noticed this?

wiiman555

Considering it's a 1 hit kill, I almost think you should have to pull out your knife just like a pistol.

Nobody can knife in a split second while holding a heavy M60. Or do you guys think that would be a horrible idea?

Knifes to the back should be an instant kill, but I'd rather normal melee as a rifle butt or even a bayonett perk.

First off, I love COD4 and think it's a fantastic game.

One thing that bugs me though, is when a guy who is 5 feet away can lunge forward and "slide" towards you and knife you in the face...

I have to admit, knifing someone in cod4 is extremely satisfying, but it is somewhat annoying when someone who is 5 feet away or more can lunge towards you and kill you instantly. Has anyone else noticed this?

Also, the hit detection of knifing can sometimes be way off. I've seen killcams where the knifer swings and stabs air yet I'm still toast.

I don't mean to complain, just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this "lunging" or no-contact issue.

At the end of the day though, COD4 still rules. Hopefully they'll come out w/ even more DL content soon.

wiiman555

FYI, Police officers are trained to stand 30 feet away from a suspect armed with a knife. Why? If the average person can sprint 100m (300 feet) in 15 seconds, that means they can cover 30 feet in 5 seconds or less. So someone standing 5 feet away can realistically get a knife out and kill you before you'd have time to react.

Considering it's a 1 hit kill, I almost think you should have to pull out your knife just like a pistol.

Nobody can knife in a split second while holding a heavy M60. Or do you guys think that would be a horrible idea?

Knifes to the back should be an instant kill, but I'd rather normal melee as a rifle butt or even a bayonett perk.

Mau-Justice

The knife, lag issues aside, is balanced perfectly well as it is. Despite it being a one hit kill most people don't use it because firing a gun off makes for a much more reliable and quick kill than sneaking up and knifing. Furthermore there's a bit of a pause between when you finish swiping with the knife and when you can fire your gun again and that pause is just long enough to ensure that if you miss with the knife in the middle of a firefight you're dead.

I personally only use the knife if someone gets close to me when they're shooting and I know they're going to shoot me dead before I kill them unless I use the knife and as an insult kill. Nothing is more satisfying than sneaking up on a camper or sniper and knifing them in the back.

Considering it's a 1 hit kill, I almost think you should have to pull out your knife just like a pistol.

Nobody can knife in a split second while holding a heavy M60. Or do you guys think that would be a horrible idea?

Knifes to the back should be an instant kill, but I'd rather normal melee as a rifle butt or even a bayonett perk.

Mau-Justice

I think the melee should be weapon based, and not just the quick and instant swipe it is.....someone two-handing n M60 isn't in any way going to be able to just pull and swipe in less than two seconds. However, it's the lagging issue I hate about it, and not the quickness of it all.

oh knifing on cod is very bugged

ive played the game loads and the ammount of times i try knife someone it misses and they turn round and kill me

its insane a lots to do with lag in my opinion

it doesnt mess up so much in single player so...

I know what you mean. Happens to me and around me in games a lot.

The knife hardly seems to work sometimes. It makes the sound of going in the guy but nothing...

And a see a guy about 20 feet away relaoding and coming at me to knife then lunges from the 10 foot mark.