So I was all excited about getting myself a 360, mainly for the epic-looking game Dead Rising. Now, the day before I was gonna go out and spend my cash on it, I noticed it had issues with SDTV.
I'm on an 28" SDTV, quite new. It's a Phillips one if that's any help. I was wondering - is it as bad as people say? "Omg it's unplayable" "I can't read the text AT ALL" "I sold mine"
Etc, etc, because I really like the idea of the game, and I've been waiting a long time for something like this to come around. Is there any solution for this? Any confirmed patches?
Also, I have a smaller SDTV. 14". Would it be sharper on that one, or even worse? I know playing on the smaller one enhances the resolution a bit, and it might help alot.
I also heard there are some special cables for SDTVs which you can use. How expensive are they and what are they called?
I wouldn't say it's unplayable, but reading the text when you get incoming messages may be a little difficult because the game was built around the ideals of being played solely upon widescreen HDTVs - not the smartest move, but at most, your picture will look stretched vertically I would imagine. While this isn't too bad visually, the reason why people say they can't read the text at all is because the incoming message text is quite small. Being that the game is persistently widescreen, it's a bad combination.
Still - is it Unreadable? Could anyone post an example of how much "noise" there is to it? I don't feel like spending alot of money before I'm ensured I can even play the game.
I played through the game on an SDTV as well I didn't reaaly have much of a problem with it I also heard that if you use the S-video cables it makes the text readable.
I took some pictures for you to show you how it would look on my screen in both 720p and 480p. Keep in mind however my camera isn't the greatest in the world, and 480p is standard definition, but progressive scan. Dead Rising in 720p: Here Dead Rising in 480p: Here Note how the 720p image fills my whole screen, while 480p has black pillars on either side of the screen, typical of standard definition on HDTVs, but also note that the game is letterboxed additionally on the top and bottom. On a standard definition TV at 480i, it might get rid of that letterboxing, but stretch the image vertically so there's no black space. This in turn would stretch the image out of dimensions. I am using an HDTV setup with an HDMI connection from the Xbox 360. It's likely you're using an SDTV with composite cables (Yellow video, White Left Stereo, Red Right Stereo) so I couldn't say for sure if it will do this or not. This should give you a good idea of what you MIGHT expect however. Hope this helps.
I've got a 27" SD... Dead Rising's text was a technicolor mess. I played for all of ten minutes before thanking God I hadn't paid for the game as I'd planned.
I've got a 27" SD... Dead Rising's text was a technicolor mess. I played for all of ten minutes before thanking God I hadn't paid for the game as I'd planned.Xprimentyl
Not to say it's a bad game, just a bad game for we dying breed fo SD gamers.
I took some pictures for you to show you how it would look on my screen in both 720p and 480p. Keep in mind however my camera isn't the greatest in the world, and 480p is standard definition, but progressive scan. Dead Rising in 720p: Here Dead Rising in 480p: Here Note how the 720p image fills my whole screen, while 480p has black pillars on either side of the screen, typical of standard definition on HDTVs, but also note that the game is letterboxed additionally on the top and bottom. On a standard definition TV at 480i, it might get rid of that letterboxing, but stretch the image vertically so there's no black space. This in turn would stretch the image out of dimensions. I am using an HDTV setup with an HDMI connection from the Xbox 360. It's likely you're using an SDTV with composite cables (Yellow video, White Left Stereo, Red Right Stereo) so I couldn't say for sure if it will do this or not. This should give you a good idea of what you MIGHT expect however. Hope this helps.Starbound571
So that's how it looks with HDTV? No problem at all there, looks very acceptable on each picture :)
Just wondering - is the 480p Picture the result i can expect? Or should I expect worser? Any pictures with a normal SDTV is HIGHLY appreciated, it'd be really helpful.
Thanks alot, Starbound. That was all HD quality with different resolutions, right?
Thanks alot, Starbound. That was all HD quality with different resolutions, right?Gforce301
The 720p picture is how I normally play games on my 360. Technically it's widescreen quality, and could be considered HD, but it's not "true" HD to some people. Some people consider nothing less than 1080i HD quality. Personally I don't care, so NYAH to all those HDTV buffs. :P I could bump it up to 1080i if I wish, but I'm greedy... I'd want 1080p instead, and for some reason my 360 doesn't allow me to set it to 1080p mode. 480p is standard definition, but enhanced with progressive scan, a technology many DVD players use nowadays to make a picture look better. The 360 also seems to use this technology. 480p is supported over Component Cables (YPbPr, or Red, Green, Blue cables) and HDMI cables, but I don't think it's supported over Composite Cables (Yellow, White, Red). If you try to use progressive scan on your 360 without the proper cables, your screen will most likely go black stating "invalid input", "out of range", or "invalid format". Don't worry though - I think it switches back if you can't see the screen and do nothing for a few seconds. I would recommend Component Cables to you, however you have an SDTV - it's not likely it can take such cables.
me and my brother each beat the game on SDTV (he played on a 27" i played on 19" at the time) Yeah, it's hard to read the text, but the game is still enjoyable.
from what i remember most of the reading you did was just to find out what bonuses the magazines gave you
I don't know what resolution my SDTV uses, but I know I won't be able to use Component Cables - I'll be using the Composite ones which comes with the box.
How do I know what resolution I have, and what is the MINIMUM to be able to see these messages?
(Also, I saw somewhere that the radio messages and all the "unreadable" texts were viewable in a larger font in your watch? Does this go for -every- text in the game, so I won't miss out on stuff?)
Do the rest of the game look great on my fairly new SDTV? (I know it won't look as good as HDTV, duh.. but atleast much better than a goodlooking Xbox game etc?)
Ididn't want to spend the time deciphering the difference in resolutions and picture quality.. so i went ahead and played through the game. I basically just powered through the fuzzy small font; my TV is roughly 10 years old so it's not really worth the time. The story isn't epic by any means, it's pretty standard video-game fluff so I doubt the subtitle/info. adds much. Overall Did it detract from my experience? A little, yeah... but it didn't hinder me from the zombie slashing fun. The ability to disembowel, dismember and decimate zombies is the main attraction here and to that degree it is worth every penny.
ok it's not THAT bad. I have a 23 inch sdtv i think and i could read the text, though it was a little hard. you should be fine on the 28 inch, and s video i think is what you're looking at which runs about 30 bucks.
Reading the small text is a little difficult, but this doesn't make the game unplayable in any way. Dead Rising is an excellent game, I highly recommend it, and I hope you enjoy it.
Oh its playable and is quite fun, if I were you I would be more worried about the horrid save system the game uses, its the reason I never finished the game the whole way through.
reading the text is pointless, it's just otis running off his nonsense about were you are or survivor's my problem with the game comes in overtime mode...the zombies are practically all gone and replaced with special forces. this game is a great zombie game but a terrible shooter
Just to report back at you - I bought the 360 + Dead Rising.
And..
It turned out great. The text is NO problem at all - maybe other people only have 10year old+ televisions? I mean, I can see it perfectly. I don't know how, but it's a 28" TV, no problem at all.
Maybe you're just really picky - or have a real bad TV. Mine's working completely fine on my SDTV, standard cables (red, white, yellow).
Cheers for the replies people, enjoying the game alot :)
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