Displaying full 1080P with the Xbox360

I know there is no HDMI or DV I hookup for the xbox360 yet there is only the VGA adapter.  I was thinking that if you have the VGA adapter and buy a VGA to HDMI, or VGA to DVI connecter it should allow one to watch their games or HD-DVD movies in 1080P.

What do you guys think?  Has anyone tried this already?

Bump.......I'd really like to know.......and I was just at the local EB Games and they said that in order to get 1080P...you definately need the hdmi......but I read on one of these forums , that some other setup works.....and as long as there's two ppl.....there will be two opinions.......so.....forget the opinions and lets have facts pleasewaldot

It depends on the kind of HDTV you have.  I have a Samsung HL-S6167W and it displays 1080p through component and VGA.BIGDEE06

1080p with the Hd-dvd drive, only works via the VGA cable.

And about the question yes I'm currently using an VGA to HDMI I bought off ebay on a 1080p sony VW-50 Projector looks great.

[QUOTE="BIGDEE06"]It depends on the kind of HDTV you have.  I have a Samsung HL-S6167W and it displays 1080p through component and VGA.jamesgj

1080p with the Hd-dvd drive, only works via the VGA cable.

And about the question yes I'm currently using an VGA to HDMI I bought off ebay on a 1080p sony VW-50 Projector looks great.

[QUOTE="jamesgj"]

[QUOTE="BIGDEE06"]It depends on the kind of HDTV you have.  I have a Samsung HL-S6167W and it displays 1080p through component and VGA.BIGDEE06

1080p with the Hd-dvd drive, only works via the VGA cable.

And about the question yes I'm currently using an VGA to HDMI I bought off ebay on a 1080p sony VW-50 Projector looks great.

Well you are correct xbox 360 can display 1080p with the xbox 360 with or without the VGA cable just wondering if you we're talking about the Hd-dvd drive. That only can achive 1080p viga VGA cable.

VGA will do 1080p equivalent resolution (1280 x 1024), but the aspect ratio is 4:3 instead of 16:9... The detail will still be there. As far as HDMI converting- it's a digital signal so you'd actually need an Analog to Digital converter which would run you $200+. Not a good choice. SilV3RSix

don't know how to respond to this one...1080p is 1920x1080 at 60 frames...not 1280x1024 and the aspect is 16:9 not 4:3.

The VGA and component can do 1080p just fine, if your TV will allow it....most Samsung TV's will do full 1080p via component and VGA but for some reason even with a Samsung the HD-DVD drive tops out at 1080i via component so for most VGA is needed if you want full 1080p and with the VGA cable the 360 will upscale DVD's to 720p.

[QUOTE="BIGDEE06"][QUOTE="jamesgj"]

[QUOTE="BIGDEE06"]It depends on the kind of HDTV you have.  I have a Samsung HL-S6167W and it displays 1080p through component and VGA.jamesgj

1080p with the Hd-dvd drive, only works via the VGA cable.

And about the question yes I'm currently using an VGA to HDMI I bought off ebay on a 1080p sony VW-50 Projector looks great.

Well you are correct xbox 360 can display 1080p with the xbox 360 with or without the VGA cable just wondering if you we're talking about the Hd-dvd drive. That only can achive 1080p viga VGA cable.

won't workblacktorn

[QUOTE="SilV3RSix"]VGA will do 1080p equivalent resolution (1280 x 1024), but the aspect ratio is 4:3 instead of 16:9... The detail will still be there. As far as HDMI converting- it's a digital signal so you'd actually need an Analog to Digital converter which would run you $200+. Not a good choice. creekfan_basic

don't know how to respond to this one...1080p is 1920x1080 at 60 frames...not 1280x1024 and the aspect is 16:9 not 4:3.

The VGA and component can do 1080p just fine, if your TV will allow it....most Samsung TV's will do full 1080p via component and VGA but for some reason even with a Samsung the HD-DVD drive tops out at 1080i via component so for most VGA is needed if you want full 1080p and with the VGA cable the 360 will upscale DVD's to 720p.

[QUOTE="SilV3RSix"]VGA will do 1080p equivalent resolution (1280 x 1024), but the aspect ratio is 4:3 instead of 16:9... The detail will still be there. As far as HDMI converting- it's a digital signal so you'd actually need an Analog to Digital converter which would run you $200+. Not a good choice. creekfan_basic

don't know how to respond to this one...1080p is 1920x1080 at 60 frames...not 1280x1024 and the aspect is 16:9 not 4:3.

The VGA and component can do 1080p just fine, if your TV will allow it....most Samsung TV's will do full 1080p via component and VGA but for some reason even with a Samsung the HD-DVD drive tops out at 1080i via component so for most VGA is needed if you want full 1080p and with the VGA cable the 360 will upscale DVD's to 720p.

VGA will do 1080p equivalent resolution (1280 x 1024), but the aspect ratio is 4:3 instead of 16:9... The detail will still be there. As far as HDMI converting- it's a digital signal so you'd actually need an Analog to Digital converter which would run you $200+. Not a good choice. SilV3RSix

Dude, what are you talking about.. How could it be 4:3????

[QUOTE="SilV3RSix"]VGA will do 1080p equivalent resolution (1280 x 1024), but the aspect ratio is 4:3 instead of 16:9... The detail will still be there. As far as HDMI converting- it's a digital signal so you'd actually need an Analog to Digital converter which would run you $200+. Not a good choice. creekfan_basic

don't know how to respond to this one...1080p is 1920x1080 at 60 frames...not 1280x1024 and the aspect is 16:9 not 4:3.

The VGA and component can do 1080p just fine, if your TV will allow it....most Samsung TV's will do full 1080p via component and VGA but for some reason even with a Samsung the HD-DVD drive tops out at 1080i via component so for most VGA is needed if you want full 1080p and with the VGA cable the 360 will upscale DVD's to 720p.

listen to this guy.  I have a sammy and it does 1080p really well over component.  The picture actually sucked using the vga adapter.

I thought that the 1080p was just upconverted on the 360, and not really a true 1080p picture?e1even20

Its impossible to display 1080p through component.

A component cable is an analog cable.

The only way to display 1080p is through a digital signal like HDMI.

By the way I work at Best Buy and we do not sell one TV that can display 1080p via component.

Its impossible to display 1080p through component.

A component cable is an analog cable.

The only way to display 1080p is through a digital signal like HDMI.

By the way I work at Best Buy and we do not sell one TV that can display 1080p via component.

JohnWinger

[QUOTE="JohnWinger"]

Its impossible to display 1080p through component.

A component cable is an analog cable.

The only way to display 1080p is through a digital signal like HDMI.

By the way I work at Best Buy and we do not sell one TV that can display 1080p via component.

highvolts12

Find one TV that supports 1080p via component.

You can't.

They don't exist.

Its impossible to display 1080p through component.

A component cable is an analog cable.

The only way to display 1080p is through a digital signal like HDMI.

By the way I work at Best Buy and we do not sell one TV that can display 1080p via component.

JohnWinger

And you are why people don't ask Best Buy workers for help.

HDTV is a broadcast standard that is neither analog nor digital. RGB is analog and already achieves even higher than 1080P resolutions, has for years.

1080P over Component is becoming standard, but currently in't. I did my research (which certainly did not include asking Best Buy employees) before picking my Samsung 61" 1080P DLP (which is advertised for $2,599 in the current Best Buy circular) which supports 1080P over component.

[QUOTE="waldot"]Bump.......I'd really like to know.......and I was just at the local EB Games and they said that in order to get 1080P...you definately need the hdmi......but I read on one of these forums , that some other setup works.....and as long as there's two ppl.....there will be two opinions.......so.....forget the opinions and lets have facts pleaseehacala

i have a 42" sharp and i can get gears on 1080p without an hdmi cable

Find one TV that supports 1080p via component.

You can't.

They don't exist.JohnWinger

Here's the Best Buy link:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7705897&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050004&id=1138085317167

Here's the Samsung link to their page (and from there you can download the PDF of the manual) which shows 1080P in the Appendix over Component (and which I can verify in that I am an owner and am using 1080P over Component as I type this on my 360):

http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/DLPTV/HLS6187WXXAA.asp

[QUOTE="highvolts12"][QUOTE="JohnWinger"]

Its impossible to display 1080p through component.

A component cable is an analog cable.

The only way to display 1080p is through a digital signal like HDMI.

By the way I work at Best Buy and we do not sell one TV that can display 1080p via component.

JohnWinger

Find one TV that supports 1080p via component.

You can't.

They don't exist.

Its impossible to display 1080p through component.

A component cable is an analog cable.

The only way to display 1080p is through a digital signal like HDMI.

By the way I work at Best Buy and we do not sell one TV that can display 1080p via component.

JohnWinger

My god people, stop posting if you don't know what you are talking about.......most of the 7th generation Samsung DLP's will do 1080p via component. You don't need a digital signal to get 1080p, 1080p has been done on PC's for years now, and guess what, most of those monitors are analog in nature.....get a clue, and saying you work for Best Buy means nothing as the majority of the people I talk to at Best Buy know squat about technology. They do know one thing though, how to dup people into buying $100 HDMI cables that are a complete waste of money.

I don't know why people still think you have to have HDMI to do 1080p, it has nothing to do with being digital or analog, its a resolution setting.....

but does the hd dvd player still work over component 1080p or do you still need a vga hookup to get 1080p 100%sumitalianguy11

The HD-DVD player will work fine over component, though it maxes out at 1080i for some reason, a hardware setting in the HD-DVD drive probably.

[QUOTE="sumitalianguy11"]but does the hd dvd player still work over component 1080p or do you still need a vga hookup to get 1080p 100%creekfan_basic

The HD-DVD player will work fine over component, though it maxes out at 1080i for some reason, a hardware setting in the HD-DVD drive probably.

[QUOTE="SilV3RSix"]VGA will do 1080p equivalent resolution (1280 x 1024), but the aspect ratio is 4:3 instead of 16:9... The detail will still be there. As far as HDMI converting- it's a digital signal so you'd actually need an Analog to Digital converter which would run you $200+. Not a good choice. creekfan_basic

don't know how to respond to this one...1080p is 1920x1080 at 60 frames...not 1280x1024 and the aspect is 16:9 not 4:3.

The VGA and component can do 1080p just fine, if your TV will allow it....most Samsung TV's will do full 1080p via component and VGA but for some reason even with a Samsung the HD-DVD drive tops out at 1080i via component so for most VGA is needed if you want full 1080p and with the VGA cable the 360 will upscale DVD's to 720p.

Thanks for all the info guys.  The TV i have is the Mitsubishi LT46231 Diamond 46" LCD HDTV which they have on the Tweeter website.  I have the HD-DVD add on and when I watch HD-DVD's on my system with the component it only shows up as 1080I not 1080P.  The main reason I was looking to see if you could use the VGA with a VGA to DVI or VGA to HDMI is simply because my TV does not support VGA. 

Also when I try and change the settings on my 360 to 1080P it doesn't work and defaults back to the prior settings. I would love to be able to get the full quality of my TV for my gaming that actually allows 1080P but also my watching of movies in HD.

If someone knows how I can get the full 1080P out of my set up I would def appreciate it.

Its impossible to display 1080p through component.

A component cable is an analog cable.

The only way to display 1080p is through a digital signal like HDMI.

By the way I work at Best Buy and we do not sell one TV that can display 1080p via component.

JohnWinger

Haha, Your the reason why Best Buy employees get paid $10 an hour..

How is it over rated, just because you don't have one??dreamscott

Its impossible to display 1080p through component.

A component cable is an analog cable.

The only way to display 1080p is through a digital signal like HDMI.

By the way I work at Best Buy and we do not sell one TV that can display 1080p via component.

JohnWinger

Not sure why you are bragging that you work at best buy.  Can you actually afford any of the crap you sell?

How is it over rated, just because you don't have one??dreamscott

[QUOTE="creekfan_basic"]

[QUOTE="SilV3RSix"]VGA will do 1080p equivalent resolution (1280 x 1024), but the aspect ratio is 4:3 instead of 16:9... The detail will still be there. As far as HDMI converting- it's a digital signal so you'd actually need an Analog to Digital converter which would run you $200+. Not a good choice. SilV3RSix

don't know how to respond to this one...1080p is 1920x1080 at 60 frames...not 1280x1024 and the aspect is 16:9 not 4:3.

The VGA and component can do 1080p just fine, if your TV will allow it....most Samsung TV's will do full 1080p via component and VGA but for some reason even with a Samsung the HD-DVD drive tops out at 1080i via component so for most VGA is needed if you want full 1080p and with the VGA cable the 360 will upscale DVD's to 720p.

It's a good thing I know how to get into the calibration settings on the TV.....I read this and recalibrated since colors due to get washed out, but easily fixed if you know what you are doing. I missed what you really meant in your first post...post this first next time :D

I know there is no HDMI or DV I hookup for the xbox360 yet there is only the VGA adapter.  I was thinking that if you have the VGA adapter and buy a VGA to HDMI, or VGA to DVI connecter it should allow one to watch their games or HD-DVD movies in 1080P.

What do you guys think?  Has anyone tried this already?

pockets187

there is HDMI DVI adapters coz i have one. 

[QUOTE="highvolts12"][QUOTE="JohnWinger"]

Its impossible to display 1080p through component.

A component cable is an analog cable.

The only way to display 1080p is through a digital signal like HDMI.

By the way I work at Best Buy and we do not sell one TV that can display 1080p via component.

JohnWinger

Find one TV that supports 1080p via component.

You can't.

They don't exist.

im using similar adapter with x360 and it works 1080p http://www.kab24.de/kabel/DVI-Adapter-DVI-I-Stecker-245-auf-Component-RGB-Radeon.html just put rgb in hook it with tv or monitor you will see.

[QUOTE="dreamscott"]How is it over rated, just because you don't have one??JoLOveS

Dude, that is your opinion.. Some people actually like LCD's and DLP's. Second, I have a 1080p HDTV, I have a very good job. I am not bragging, I am simply stating that I have one. If I wanted to buy a 720p, I could have. I decided to go with the future and go 1080p. I love it. It looks amazing. My friend has a 720p HDTV and I hate to break it to you but there is a huge difference. 1080P looks a million times better, at any distance from the TV. I would love to know who started that distance rumor :|

[QUOTE="JoLOveS"][QUOTE="dreamscott"]How is it over rated, just because you don't have one??dreamscott

Dude, that is your opinion.. Some people actually like LCD's and DLP's. Second, I have a 1080p HDTV, I have a very good job. I am not bragging, I am simply stating that I have one. If I wanted to buy a 720p, I could have. I decided to go with the future and go 1080p. I love it. It looks amazing. My friend has a 720p HDTV and I hate to break it to you but there is a huge difference. 1080P looks a million times better, at any distance from the TV. I would love to know who started that distance rumor :|

When are people on this forum going to learn to think for themselves?

Go to the store, look at the televisions and decide for yourself. When I was shopping for a television, I took the smaller Plasma screen for the same price into consideration, and looked at the picture on a plasma then on a DLP, then an LCD. Each display has strengths and weaknesses, you have to assess which appeal to you.

I personally can tell the difference between 720P and 1080P visually, for those that can't perhaps lasik? Its not hard to see the resolution and sharpness difference.

It gets old reading post about how Plasma is the best or LCD is the best. All of the technologies have weaknesses in how they display pictures, or how much they cost to get a minor enchancement to a feature.

To the OP. You have 2 options to get 1080 for movies on the 360, 3 options for games (keeping in mind most are being upscaled from 720P).

360 + Component or VGA or HDMI (Elite) = 1080P games (if game isnt 1080P native it will upscale)
360 + Component = 480P DVD, 1080i HD DVD (digital rights issue)
360 + VGA = 1080P DVD (upscaled), 1080P HD DVD, not all tvs will have VGA port and the signal is analog
360 + HDMI (elite) = 1080P DVD (upscaled), 1080P HD DVD native

Biggest problems with VGA is it tends to wash the colors out on most screens. There was a patch to fix this but my understanding is it does a poor job and some people still have the problem. I tried the VGA cable back before I the Elite came out, and didnt like the washed out look so went back to my component cables until I bought my Elite.