Disturbed by Halo 3

I hope this is where I can post this and I won't get into trouble but here it goes. I'm a big fan of halo 3 and today I decided to look over their forums once again after being absent from them for about a year now. I saw a post about second accounts and decided to look. The post was simple, a player was upset over the fact that very high rank players go and make 2nd accounts and completely own lower level players. He was upset because he didn't see that it was fair to new players to the game and it was an easy "50".

As I scolled down the responses, I saw where one of Halo's employees, (No names to protect the innocent) responded. He said very shortly that its perfectly legit and what people do with their money is their own. Then he said something else that disturbed me. He told the poster to quit complaining and either learn to play better or quit and that new players that are getting destroyed by second accounters should do the same. and also this was backed by many players responses

Now why would a company say that to someone who purchased their product, gave them money, and is trying to enjoy THEIR game, is that not chasing off loyal customers and doesnt that cost money? just liked to see what you guys thought about this.

I find it to be very poor sportsmanship to make a 2nd account and pick on novice players. It put those type of people on the same level as those who enjoy beating a 5-year-old at basketball. They are essentially ruining another person's enjoyment of the game.UT_Wrestler

and im with you a 100%. my problem is that bungie basicly says, "hey tough luck UT_wrestler, they can do what they want, if you dont like it, get better or get out" (using you as an example) thats my problem im having, it just seems the whole game, the whole place is built around being unsportsman in a way

[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]I find it to be very poor sportsmanship to make a 2nd account and pick on novice players. It put those type of people on the same level as those who enjoy beating a 5-year-old at basketball. They are essentially ruining another person's enjoyment of the game.reverend1985

and im with you a 100%. my problem is that bungie basicly says, "hey tough luck UT_wrestler, they can do what they want, if you dont like it, get better or get out" (using you as an example) thats my problem im having, it just seems the whole game, the whole place is built around being unsportsman in a way

Maybe you should just do what they say and play a different game, maybe MW2 or even a co-op game like Borderlands. They shouldn't condone this kind of thing but they probably don't want to anger their loyal fans.

and i agree with all of you guys. what they do with their money and accounts is their business. Just ive been going through some of bungies forums where players had problems or questions etc and bungie employees responded with very crass, unprofessional remarks basicly telling ppl get better or get out, which i think they should reword and make it sound alot better

What the Bungie employee should have said is "Although there is no rule against making a second account, that particular type of behavior is poor sportsmanship and is frowned upon".UT_Wrestler

Are there really that many good Halo 3 players whom enjoy playing against people they know will be no contest against them? Not sure how everyone else thinks, but the entire reason for me to play online is for the competitiion. There really is nothing that can be done for those new players, except for the hope that these high ranked individuals suddenly realize that slaughtering new players is just the same as slaughtering AI in single player & the fact that they do it makes them look like cowards.

Why must people complain so greatly about such trivial matters? Besides, if the newbies constantly play with the pros, the newbs will improve until their skill reaches equilibrium with that of the pros.LiftedHeadshot

BS. Playing against pros is not a good way to get into any competitive activity. Do I really have to explain this?

XBox Live; You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

RIGHT All online gaming is horrible. But if you are lucky people won't f with the game and actually play fair.

I hope this is where I can post this and I won't get into trouble but here it goes. I'm a big fan of halo 3 and today I decided to look over their forums once again after being absent from them for about a year now. I saw a post about second accounts and decided to look. The post was simple, a player was upset over the fact that very high rank players go and make 2nd accounts and completely own lower level players. He was upset because he didn't see that it was fair to new players to the game and it was an easy "50".

As I scolled down the responses, I saw where one of Halo's employees, (No names to protect the innocent) responded. He said very shortly that its perfectly legit and what people do with their money is their own. Then he said something else that disturbed me. He told the poster to quit complaining and either learn to play better or quit and that new players that are getting destroyed by second accounters should do the same. and also this was backed by many players responses

Now why would a company say that to someone who purchased their product, gave them money, and is trying to enjoy THEIR game, is that not chasing off loyal customers and doesnt that cost money? just liked to see what you guys thought about this.

reverend1985

what the heck is bungie suppose to do about this. theres no way to regulate this. its nonsense to even bring it up. people have a right to have several accounts. eventually these upper level players will rank up to there level. with experience and playing with vets you will eventually get better.

[QUOTE="LiftedHeadshot"]Why must people complain so greatly about such trivial matters? Besides, if the newbies constantly play with the pros, the newbs will improve until their skill reaches equilibrium with that of the pros.Palantas

BS. Playing against pros is not a good way to get into any competitive activity. Do I really have to explain this?

Second accounts are ridiculous. I myself am good enough that when multiple people are playing I rarely end up getting beat by much. But there are times when myself and a group will score maybe 8 frags and someone has 25 to win it all. It's a little ridiculous and there's no point to it. On the other hand, it doesn't bother me because I play for fun and like the developer said, if he really did say that, what people do with their time and money is their own business.

Second accounts are ridiculous. I myself am good enough that when multiple people are playing I rarely end up getting beat by much. But there are times when myself and a group will score maybe 8 frags and someone has 25 to win it all. It's a little ridiculous and there's no point to it. On the other hand, it doesn't bother me because I play for fun and like the developer said, if he really did say that, what people do with their time and money is their own business.

NeonNinja

[QUOTE="LiftedHeadshot"]Why must people complain so greatly about such trivial matters? Besides, if the newbies constantly play with the pros, the newbs will improve until their skill reaches equilibrium with that of the pros.Palantas

BS. Playing against pros is not a good way to get into any competitive activity. Do I really have to explain this?

There are many things in life that disturb me...but cheating and poor sportsmanship in Halo 3 is certainly not one of them.

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[QUOTE="LiftedHeadshot"]Why must people complain so greatly about such trivial matters? Besides, if the newbies constantly play with the pros, the newbs will improve until their skill reaches equilibrium with that of the pros.LiftedHeadshot

BS. Playing against pros is not a good way to get into any competitive activity. Do I really have to explain this?

Okay dude, playing videogames against other people is competitive activity. This "rebuttal" of yours here makes less sense than your original statement. However, so there's absolutely no confusion, let me reword my statement: "Bull****. Playing against pros is not a good way to introduce oneself to an online videogame."

I don't think that what those players are doing really matters because they can't do it forever they eventually level up anyway and get put back with player of their own skill level. Owning people that aren't as good as you is fun and satisfying but it gets old quickly when you can blaze though a match without dying. What disturbs me is the response that you got from Bungie. They should be looking for ways to enhance enjoyment not promote the owning of newbies.

That's very unprofesional.

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[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]I find it to be very poor sportsmanship to make a 2nd account and pick on novice players. It put those type of people on the same level as those who enjoy beating a 5-year-old at basketball. They are essentially ruining another person's enjoyment of the game.dukebd699

and im with you a 100%. my problem is that bungie basicly says, "hey tough luck UT_wrestler, they can do what they want, if you dont like it, get better or get out" (using you as an example) thats my problem im having, it just seems the whole game, the whole place is built around being unsportsman in a way

and i agree with all of you guys. what they do with their money and accounts is their business. Just ive been going through some of bungies forums where players had problems or questions etc and bungie employees responded with very crass, unprofessional remarks basicly telling ppl get better or get out, which i think they should reword and make it sound alot better

reverend1985

Do you know for sure it was a Bungie employee? If it was on a GameSpot forum and the user claimed to be from Bungie I wouldn't trust that so much.. The issue is annoying however. I myself am not a super high level in Halo 3 so it's annoying getting into a game and being owned by the same person 50 times over and over. It's clear that those people are higher skilled players.. so then why are they playing with me in matchmaking? It's a ridiculous concept..wwervin

it was a forum ninja with orange lettering on Bungie.net's forums, not on here lol. but i agree with you also, im quite happy with my level 40. however im constantly seeing second acounts owning me, sure fire way to tell if there second account of course is look at there level vs ranked XP, usually its all to perfect

this argument is ridiculous by the way because its not like your going to come across a higher level player (50) in matchmaking constantly. it happens seldomly at random times. not enough to get mad over

the whole place is built around being unsportsman in a way

UT_Wrestler

eh im pretty new to the game myself and if i encounter those people that obviously are just noob hunters i just use the 'avoid this player' option, cirtainly are alot of em though

Halo 3 just has a crappy game community. It's the exact same what you'd expect from a game of its nature. It's no different than what you'd see in Starcraft.

Halo 3 just has a crappy game community. It's the exact same what you'd expect from a game of its nature. It's no different than what you'd see in Starcraft.

KHAndAnime

what does that even mean?

and i agree with all of you guys. what they do with their money and accounts is their business. Just ive been going through some of bungies forums where players had problems or questions etc and bungie employees responded with very crass, unprofessional remarks basicly telling ppl get better or get out, which i think they should reword and make it sound alot better

reverend1985

well to be fair if you suck at halo then all hope is lost for you,it the noobbest of the nooby friendly fps games

Are you certain that it was a Bungie employee? I've seen Bungie employees respond to people many times before and that definitely doesn't sound like one. They have always responded without getting defensive, and they also recommend that no one should quit...no matter how badly you're getting beat. So I have a hard time believing that this was even a Bungie employee....do you have a link?

What Bungie should have done is just keep their mouths shut. What do they get out of telling people that bad sportsmanship is ok. What good company in their right mind would tell their customers to go play something else if you're not good at it. They should be catering to their fans. I wouldn't expect anything less from Bungie though. They are a terrible company and their cockiness and attitude is getting worse and worse. This isn't the first time I've read about their snooty remarks to consumers. They have no reason to change though since they have so many followers that will buy anything they put out and defend anything they say. Its sad that they would abuse their community like that.

The Bungie guy could have chosen some better words, but I have to agree with some of what he said. People making a 2nd account have every right to do that. It's lame, but true that they can do whatever they want with their money. And how can anyone know who is guilty of doing that? And telling people learn how to play better is kind of a standard response to people complaining about having difficulties in multiplayer. I mean, what else can you do but try to improve in order to compete?DJ_Magneto

I'd have to agree. Some players, once they reached the top, create another account in order to start all over again just for the heck of it. Of course, they start at zero because...well where else would they start? All i can say is that you'll just have to compromise. It happens in every game with competitive gaming.

Halo 3 just has a crappy game community.KHAndAnime

^This. I like Halo but a large percentile of the people playing are complete A-holes. Thats not to say that there aren't some cool people in the Halo community but they are few and far between.