Do games seem way to easy now?

As far as difficulty goes, i find that alot of video games are extremly easy now. For example, COD used to be difficult on veteran, but now its a breeze. Halo has never been to difficult in a group, Even if you play a game on normal there should be some chalenge to it. Ive gotten so used to it that i dont have the pacience to play hard games anymore which is a bad thing. Anyone else notice this?

I dont notice... it usually varies game by game.

I wont say that you are wrong tho, casual gaming is coming on strong, and maybe they have made games easier.

They've dumbed down a few games.

Some devs actually got better at knowing their players. Take GTA3 for example. The missions were just odd out weird making tons of cash, not only that... some of the freaking missions were hard as hell. GTA4 is probably the easiest out of all of them. Vice City was ok at its missions but some were difficult.

Tomb Raider was like this too. It was challenging at first and then it became harder after each sequel and then it got easier after each sequel.

Overall you are right, and a lot of games should be more challenging. Challenging is what I prefer though, not difficult to the point of frustration.

There's certaintly no arguing that even in the last few years, games have been getting somewhat easier. But I definitely think the casual market has something to do with it. Today, games seem to be more about delivering a very story-driven experience that can appeal to as wide an audience as possible.....which clearly isn't always a good thing for the core gamers.

And that basically sums up the happy mess I make when something like Dark Souls comes along. Just give me a good game with at least a half decent challenge and I'll be happy.

I would agree that most games on the market are getting easier, but that is because even though some games are on the "Teen" and "18+" markets, the developers and Microsoft have (correctly) acknowledged that children that are as young as 4 years old (possibly even younger) may be playing on these games (when my brother was 4, he was playing Gears of War by himself on Insane...lol). At least, that is what I believe... I have not done research into this topic.

I would say this is only correct for the FPS genre, try Bayonetta on easy.RAGEofSTUNTS

Games might be easier, but this is tricky.

Games and gamers have evolved so the weapons and techniques awarded video game characters, not to mention the programming itself, have evolved as well. Think about the wide range of attacks/abilities/maneuvers a person has at their disposal when playing a video game today compared to one that was played on NES for example. Two buttons, usually attack & jump or attack & attack, were all you had and all programmers had to work with.

Today there are a multitude of buttons and a wide array of options when programming a game. I don't think the games are getting easier, just that gamers are being given better in-game tools to utilize and programmers know what they're doing for the most part.

And some modern games are very difficult, but even those can be conquered with patience and practice, which is a departure from some older games that seemed to be programmed with the intention of keeping the ending from ever being seen. I think the difficulty that existed with some legacy games was unintentional, too. Programmers were doing the best with what they had, and I'm sure a lot of them were fumbling in the dark with a lot of those games.

[QUOTE="RAGEofSTUNTS"]I would say this is only correct for the FPS genre, try Bayonetta on easy.scouttrooperbob

Oh wait got mixed up with velvet assassin different game compltly

As far as difficulty goes, i find that alot of video games are extremly easy now. For example, COD used to be difficult on veteran, but now its a breeze. Halo has never been to difficult in a group, Even if you play a game on normal there should be some chalenge to it. Ive gotten so used to it that i dont have the pacience to play hard games anymore which is a bad thing. Anyone else notice this?

scouttrooperbob

umm, yea....by nature FPS games are easy. Try to complete Demon's Souls and Dark Souls and then talk to me.

On some levels, yes. However, as it has already been said....There are many games still being made that can be seen as challenging. But on an overall level...yes...yes they do.

The majority of games seems very easy compared to the old games. But there are exceptions like: «Demon's Souls».

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As far as difficulty goes, i find that alot of video games are extremly easy now. For example, COD used to be difficult on veteran, but now its a breeze. Halo has never been to difficult in a group, Even if you play a game on normal there should be some chalenge to it. Ive gotten so used to it that i dont have the pacience to play hard games anymore which is a bad thing. Anyone else notice this?

Headpopper333

umm, yea....by nature FPS games are easy. Try to complete Demon's Souls and Dark Souls and then talk to me.

Ive played demon souls and indeed its hard, but thats just 2 games that are made specifically to be a pain in the a$$. The majority of games are a breeze now. Its not necassarily a bad thing in all cases just an observation.

Yeah, untill I played Dark Souls..

As far as difficulty goes, i find that alot of video games are extremly easy now. For example, COD used to be difficult on veteran, but now its a breeze. Halo has never been to difficult in a group, Even if you play a game on normal there should be some chalenge to it. Ive gotten so used to it that i dont have the pacience to play hard games anymore which is a bad thing. Anyone else notice this?

scouttrooperbob

I think OP statement is true, while we got a few hard games this year (Rayman Origins, Dark Souls,...) games are getting easier with each passing year.

I think today it's less acceptable for designers to resort to cheap tactics to increase a game's difficulty. That and it's usually more profitable to market a game to a general audience as opposed to an elitist few.

It doesn't really bother me. Pretty much all games include a variety of difficulty settings anyway.

I think today it's less acceptable for designers to resort to cheap tactics to increase a game's difficulty. That and it's usually more profitable to market a game to a general audience as opposed to an elitist few

Doctor_Dino

By "cheap tactic" I assume you mean like how Space Invaders starts the invaders one row lower on each round? I think the whole point of a game like Space Invaders is for the player to see if they can beat the top score. What else would you have the game do after you put down the first screen of invaders? Say "you win" and end? If everyone got the same max score on the game, there really would be no point to it.

I think it's more that players are rejecting games that they feel are too hard based on subjective experience relative to other games. For example, in "Balloon Guard" the player needed to play a basic platform game while keeping a balloon bouncing. The immediate feedback from one review was that it was "way harder than it needed to be". Bouncing the balloon really isn't that hard, but it does take some practice. This reviewer at least wasn't interested in learning the skill. It would be like me deciding I wanted to be a NBA star, but upon finding that I couldn't immediately dribble a basketball perfectly without any practice, saying the game of basketball is too hard.

Attention spans are shorter, and we all expect to "win" every game we try in the first or second attempt. And after all, if you can't beat "Bioshock", you are a lot less likely to buy "Bioshock 2". So I definitely agree with your second point in that it all boils down to money. At some point though I hope gamers take a stand and start to push back at least a little bit on games that anyone can win without even setting down their soda can. My fear though is that it's only going to get worse.

As far as difficulty goes, i find that alot of video games are extremly easy now. For example, COD used to be difficult on veteran, but now its a breeze. Halo has never been to difficult in a group, Even if you play a game on normal there should be some chalenge to it. Ive gotten so used to it that i dont have the pacience to play hard games anymore which is a bad thing. Anyone else notice this?

scouttrooperbob

Maybe we're just getting better at games?

But they are, in a sense, getting easier. I mean, they don't require tons of memorization and split-second timing and there are checkpoints and savepoints and reloads.

I guess they're becoming more about experiences and you have to resort to "making" them difficult.

i didn't notice but,u are right they does seem way too easy :(

Have you ever watched sequalitis?

i didn't notice but,u are right they does seem way too easy :(

GamesRing

Maybe cause it appears all you play is FPS games

COD used to be difficult on veteran

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As far as difficulty goes, i find that alot of video games are extremly easy now. For example, COD used to be difficult on veteran, but now its a breeze. Halo has never been to difficult in a group, Even if you play a game on normal there should be some chalenge to it. Ive gotten so used to it that i dont have the pacience to play hard games anymore which is a bad thing. Anyone else notice this?

Adam_the_Nerd

Maybe we're just getting better at games?

But they are, in a sense, getting easier. I mean, they don't require tons of memorization and split-second timing and there are checkpoints and savepoints and reloads.

I guess they're becoming more about experiences and you have to resort to "making" them difficult.

I think this is a good point. For example, mass effect was not a game i play for the shooting , but more for the choices and story. Some of you might be familiar witht hte game heavy rain. Its a ps3 exclusive, but its really good. Its imosible to fail. I do feel, however, shooters should have a difficulty thats difficult. MW2 and MW3 were way to easy for the hardest difficulty, but they are cod games so they fail to do alot of things right anyway... Im not a fan of difficult RPGs (not that i dont mind them) I do like a challlenge in shooting/action games.