So they say that GRAW pushes the 360 to its graphical limit , do u think thats true? ....do u think that we will see better graphics from the 360 in the future and bigger playing areas and smarter A.I?
GoW is definatly the best looking console game ever made from a technical standpoint but if you think about it, the 360 is still young and there is plenty time for a better looking games to be developed. Look at the PS2, the games on that console started out looking only marginally better than PS1 but now they look great for a really old console. I think there will definatly be better graphics to come along in the future.
I thought Gears of War had the best graphics... Either way, I think there will be games with better graphics in the future. It usually takes a few years before a game is made that really shows us what the console can do. We've seen some amazing games already, but I think there will still be better games.
A game that comes out one year after the systems release (Gears of War) will not be pushing the console to its limits in any way...just look at the Xbox 1.
GoW is definatly the best looking console game ever made from a technical standpoint but if you think about it, the 360 is still young and there is plenty time for a better looking games to be developed. Look at the PS2, the games on that console started out looking only marginally better than PS1 but now they look great for a really old console. I think there will definatly be better graphics to come along in the future.Jenkins_2005
a game in the forst two years will never hit the limits. early code is innefficiant, even tho it may max out the hardware by useing up all the avalible cycles and system calls it's not maxed out because new tricks will be learned later, shortcuts if yopu will so you can do more with less. think of it like cars. if you build a square car you can floor it an reach a top speed, you will be useing all the hp and torque of the engine. that dosn't mean that is the best achievable speed. you make the car areodynamic and suddenly you have much higher speeds with the same engine and power.
halo3 will blow graw2 out of the water. in 2-3 years there will be games that make halo3 look average. altho the harware it runs on will remain the same, the code writers will become more efficent, they will learn how to do the same effect with few lines of code and fewer cycles.
Historically, there is always an improvement over time. Nothing will change that this generation. You can bet GoW 2 is going to look even better than the first, in a couple years. This generation is different too, in that multicore/cell processors are being used. This *might* mean that there is even more room for improvement, since this capacity is new to developers.
graphics will get minorly better, but do we really need better with game like gears of war out? as for AI there is definite room for improvement thereInfernoply
i remember thinking the same thing about goldeneye. better is always good even when thinking of great games.
Duh of course remember the first games for ps2? Now compare them to games like Black. My main hope is that they are able to improve the games without increasing the noise from the 360. Gears already makes it hum and click like crazy good thing there are things like shotgun gibs to drown out the noise.
Who cares about better graphics. I want better games. I want Oblivion with more creatures, friends that help out along the way, longer story, better fighting with some crazy off the wall FF type magic.
I want something fun like the Wii has with its Wii sports. I want MS to make a "wii mote"...I want fun and exciting games for once.
YES im a HUGE COD2 fan. I never take it out of my console, but...Im also ready for another great, knock me for a loop game......
I've never heard any where that GRAW pushed the 360 to its limits. They said that Gears Of War used only about 60% of its potential.shawn7324
I don't think we will see a lot of games that will have better graphics than GoW and such but we will definitively see better loading times, better framerates, larger content, innovative games, only to name a few..
I dont know, you look when the ps2 was launched it was launched with Granturismo 3 and then Metal Gear Solid 2 came out a year or so later and we never realy see "much" bigger improvment than those!
I think once Metal Gear Solid 4 comes out (apparantly its coming to the 360) we will see some of the best it has to offer , beacuse you dont realy get much better graphics than the Metal Gear Series!
a game in the forst two years will never hit the limits. early code is innefficiant, even tho it may max out the hardware by useing up all the avalible cycles and system calls it's not maxed out because new tricks will be learned later, shortcuts if yopu will so you can do more with less. think of it like cars. if you build a square car you can floor it an reach a top speed, you will be useing all the hp and torque of the engine. that dosn't mean that is the best achievable speed. you make the car areodynamic and suddenly you have much higher speeds with the same engine and power.
halo3 will blow graw2 out of the water. in 2-3 years there will be games that make halo3 look average. altho the harware it runs on will remain the same, the code writers will become more efficent, they will learn how to do the same effect with few lines of code and fewer cycles.
I just don't see the graphics outdoing Gears of War for any future game release, I mean how much better do you think the graphics can get? I honestly think GOW maxed out the 360's graphical power it's just my opinion.
[QUOTE="Jenkins_2005"]GoW is definatly the best looking console game ever made from a technical standpoint but if you think about it, the 360 is still young and there is plenty time for a better looking games to be developed. Look at the PS2, the games on that console started out looking only marginally better than PS1 but now they look great for a really old console. I think there will definatly be better graphics to come along in the future.iMuffins
I dont know, you look when the ps2 was launched it was launched with Granturismo 3 and then Metal Gear Solid 2 came out a year or so later and we never realy see "much" bigger improvment than those!
I think once Metal Gear Solid 4 comes out (apparantly its coming to the 360) we will see some of the best it has to offer , beacuse you dont realy get much better graphics than the Metal Gear Series!
Matt_the_Boxer
BS! first of all, mgs came to xbox and it`s not even top ten when it comes to graphics, and a big flop overall... and since when is it coming to the 360? second of all, the tread itself is so lame. it`s like asking "will technology get better or worse in the future?" great question!
I don't think we'll see a huge leap unless you start comparing the systems launch games to the final games of the systems lifespan. If you look at launch games compared to now just one year on you can see a big improvement. (Infact you can see a pretty big leap just a few months in, games like GRAW and Oblivion.) but it will definetley slow down.
But as someone else mentioned we'll start seeing big improvements in other areas such as A.I., animation and physics. To be honest though Mass Effect is already looking better than Gearsa Of War. Just compare the facial closeups of Gears to those of Mass Effects. There is so much more sublety and detail in the graphics and animation than in Gears.
So they say that GRAW pushes the 360 to its graphical limit , do u think thats true? ....do u think that we will see better graphics from the 360 in the future and bigger playing areas and smarter A.I? Matt_the_Boxer
a launch game can push hardware to its limit, but that does not mean that is the most it is capable of, it depends on how you write code, if its sloppy it will max out the console but not the potential
it happens with all consoles, the longer they are around the better games start looking.
Sebbib! .......Metal Gear Solid was amazing graphics when it first came out on PS2 and is still good graphics, and wasnt a big flop it was rated 10/10 in most games magazines and Metal gear solid 3 was rated 9/10 , and also theres another thread on here asking "what game do u think has the best graphics on PS2" and the majority of people say Metal Gear is one of them! ....................and what about Granturismo 3 those where crap and we never realy see much better graphics than those on PS2 and that was a launch title!
My guess is that we will eventually see even better graphics from the 360. As programmers develop several games, they learn how to better utilize a systems potential. They also learn a few optical tricks to get great visual effects from the same amount of power.
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