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#1 The_Ripper
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This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

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yes
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#3 tunasandwich395
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Yes, all their news is only good to non-owners...
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#4 YogidAbEAR152
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all the time, ps3/sony is better IMO, but xbox has all the exclusives i want to play, so until i save enough to buy a ps3 to team up with my 360 i'll have to deal with microsoft:(
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This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

The_Ripper

Not at all. Im glad that I have been able to play great games since Nov. 05. I applaud M$'s efforts for updating their system. Just as cars, tv's, ipods, computers, etc upgrade all the time why can't videogame systems? As long as you are able to play all the games on your older system whats the big deal? Now if they started making games that were only playable on the newest system then I would have a problem.

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#6 feryl06
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No I don't feel ripped off. Each year, you have to expect changes and new skus. It's the nature of the business. You can't expect to buy the same car each year and not expect changes in it, esp. if the changes are for the better. It's like when you buy a phone, or an ipod, each year, that model will get better and better and or cheaper too.

This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

The_Ripper
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#7 XxSTILL_BORNxX
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[QUOTE="The_Ripper"]

This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

xxxMoreBeerxxx

Not at all. Im glad that I have been able to play great games since Nov. 05. I applaud M$'s efforts for updating their system. Just as cars, tv's, ipods, computers, etc upgrade all the time why can't videogame systems? As long as you are able to play all the games on your older system whats the big deal? Now if they started making games that were only playable on the newest system then I would have a problem.




Couldnt have said it better my self.

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#8 thekey
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[QUOTE="The_Ripper"]

This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

xxxMoreBeerxxx

Not at all. Im glad that I have been able to play great games since Nov. 05. I applaud M$'s efforts for updating their system. Just as cars, tv's, ipods, computers, etc upgrade all the time why can't videogame systems? As long as you are able to play all the games on your older system whats the big deal? Now if they started making games that were only playable on the newest system then I would have a problem.

I know thats whats so funny about people. They don't complain when a new toyota comes out after they brought an early addition. But when MS does it it's a rip off. I think this is a good idea but I don't think it's for this gen Xbox, it's for there next gen Xbox. But i don't know? IF MS did put this Blu-ray 360 out I would get it if they teamed up with retailers to have a trade in program where if you trade in your current 360 you $300 in credit I would jump on it!
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#9 optimis
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yes

never mind that they keep breaking:(

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#10 porky_ownsu
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No, not really.

Everyone knows that the PS3 is an overall better system, mostly because sony took all of what MC didnt do and put it into PS3 (e.g. bluetooth, blu-ray) and other blue stuff.

I got X360 for the library and superior online play. Not to mention i prefer the X360 controller.

My 360 has never had any problems, like metling and ****

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#11 cjgangsta
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heck yeah !!
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#12 Maleku
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Yeah, Microsoft is getting as bad as Lucas Films with their 87 different versions of Star Wars. i know a lot of companies "milk" their products but atleast have some respect while doing it.
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#13 chefstubbies
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I don't feel ripped off by Microsoft, but I do get frusterated when I spend $499 on a 360 and two weeks later there's a $100 price drop and also the inclusion of HDMI ports.

I might feel ripped off if Microsoft didn't offer free repair and shipping for the 3 red rings for three years.

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#15 FUBAR24
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nope because ive been playing all the great games the 360 has had to offer since its been released. if i feel i should upgrade then i will
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#16 bxgt
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only with dlc, other than that m$ has done a pretty good job with it's second console.
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#17 wreak
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some times yes.
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#18 mfacek
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No, do you feel ripped off by Itunes when they release updated versions of their Ipods? Do you feel ripped off by Ford when they release an updated Taurus every year? How is Microsoft any different? At least they are keeping their product up to date while keeping it stocked with a solid library of games which is more than plenty of other companies in the past.
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#19 Bullet_Holes
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This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

The_Ripper

You can't give those examples and then say they should have gotten it right the first time. If they HAD gotten it right the first time, and the Xbox 360 did have everything you listed, we would be looking at a much more expensive console.

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#20 Crysis_Pwns
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Well considering I payed 50 dollars for the extended service plan from microsoft, and it has taken an entire month just for them to being the repair process on my 360, yes, I feel quite f***** in the ass.
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#21 sirk1264
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This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

The_Ripper

Did sony owners feel ripped off when the ps2 was redesigned into the slimline and had more reliable hardware? No!!! This is what happens when your an early adopter. Improvements and upgrades will always happen in the consoles lifetime. If you don't want to feel ripped off then don't buy a next gen console early and wait a couple years.

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#22 Bullet_Holes
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[QUOTE="The_Ripper"]

This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

sirk1264

Did sony owners feel ripped off when the ps2 was redesigned into the slimline and had more reliable hardware? No!!! This is what happens when your an early adopter. Improvements and upgrades will always happen in the consoles lifetime. If you don't want to feel ripped off then don't buy a next gen console early and wait a couple years.

Not necassarily. If a console stays the same from launch to death, there is nothing odd about that. The only realy guarenteed advantage to those who wait is a price drop.

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#23 olpfan
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i never wanted that slim Ps2 anyway. I dont really feel ripped off by microsoft, just mabe frusterated with them sometimes.
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#24 mariokart64fan
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i think ive been ripped since launch none of my 360s even lasted more then 6 months since i had my first one, im on my 4th and 5th respecti vly

and now this .

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#25 Stevie_Q
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all the time, ps3/sony is better IMO, but xbox has all the exclusives i want to play, so until i save enough to buy a ps3 to team up with my 360 i'll have to deal with microsoft:(YogidAbEAR152

Same!

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#26 sirk1264
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[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="The_Ripper"]

This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

Bullet_Holes

Did sony owners feel ripped off when the ps2 was redesigned into the slimline and had more reliable hardware? No!!! This is what happens when your an early adopter. Improvements and upgrades will always happen in the consoles lifetime. If you don't want to feel ripped off then don't buy a next gen console early and wait a couple years.

Not necassarily. If a console stays the same from launch to death, there is nothing odd about that. The only realy guarenteed advantage to those who wait is a price drop.

And more reliable hardware. The bulky ps2 had hardware problems. The slimline had hardly any and was cheaper than when the ps2 was first released. I think ps3 owners should be feeling screwed because the original 60GB ps3 will be the best model out of any ps3 model considering it has full BC with ps2 games and ps1 games.

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#27 masterchief375
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I feel ripped off by Microsoft, because there are a few developers that wanted to give us some DLC for free but noooo Microsoft wants to charge us an arm and a leg for two or three maps that will be free in about 4 months anyway. As if Bill Gates wasn;t rich enough already!! lol but i love my 360 to death :)
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#28 sirk1264
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[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="The_Ripper"]

This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

Bullet_Holes

Did sony owners feel ripped off when the ps2 was redesigned into the slimline and had more reliable hardware? No!!! This is what happens when your an early adopter. Improvements and upgrades will always happen in the consoles lifetime. If you don't want to feel ripped off then don't buy a next gen console early and wait a couple years.

Not necassarily. If a console stays the same from launch to death, there is nothing odd about that. The only realy guarenteed advantage to those who wait is a price drop.

The 360 has had some improvements. They added HDMI to the later models and added a 120GB HDD. Early adopters didn't have that. Now there is an Arcade Sku that replaces the useless core model which didn't include any type of game or memory unit and didn't have HDMI. The ps2 which is arguably the most successful console in history had improvements to it from the beginning to now.

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[QUOTE="The_Ripper"]

This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

sirk1264

Did sony owners feel ripped off when the ps2 was redesigned into the slimline and had more reliable hardware? No!!! This is what happens when your an early adopter. Improvements and upgrades will always happen in the consoles lifetime. If you don't want to feel ripped off then don't buy a next gen console early and wait a couple years.

Some games don't work with the slimline...

Besides the first batch of PS2's many of the the fatty ones are fine.

What frustrates me is that unlike the PS2 and DS and PSP and a couple others is that the Xbox 360 just wasn't ready. To this day consoles are breaking down and you know what?! Microsoft still can't fix the problem! They actually don't have a simple solution and it has been almost 2 and a half years since the launch. Everybody is getting screwed.

I wish that the next time my console breaks they just send a new one cause at least it won't be as loud as an elephant when playing a game but I am still concerned that they have no way of solving their 3 ring problem.

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every day
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#31 kozzy1234
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I dont feel ripped off, because my ps1's had alot more trouble then my 360s are having. My ps2 only messed up once though. But still sony basically said wthey couldnt do anything about the console being broken. But MS sends me a new 360 if mine messses up. I think ill stick to MS thank you very much.
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#32 Skinnylegz
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though i do feel a bit ripped off, you can't help it. it's just the way business works.

i agree with a few of the above posts. it's not the late updates that rip us off, it's the fact that the early 360's had so many problems and even some current 360's. i got a 360 not that long after launch and i was so angry because it was like MS didn't even bother to test them.

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#33 Jas282005
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The thing that make me feel ripped off is the fact that Microsoft xbox 360

only has 2 years left until they make a new system and everyone know

what happen to there last console the xbox Microsoft just killed it the completely

stopped making games all at once and didn't support it after that for anyone

that don't believe me do the research the same thing will happen when the next

console hits in 2010 mark my words on the other hand... Sony still supports

the PS2 they still make games for it years after the PS3 and the PS3 will be

supported long after there next console ...

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#34 creebo
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[QUOTE="The_Ripper"]

This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

xxxMoreBeerxxx

Not at all. Im glad that I have been able to play great games since Nov. 05. I applaud M$'s efforts for updating their system. Just as cars, tv's, ipods, computers, etc upgrade all the time why can't videogame systems? As long as you are able to play all the games on your older system whats the big deal? Now if they started making games that were only playable on the newest system then I would have a problem.

I agree Here Here quit whining people

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Well, I honestly don't really care. Worse case scenario, if I really did care....I could call 1-888-BEST-BUY and cash in my PRP for a huge gift card to put towards upgrading to the next Xbox. :P

I have a PS3 for blu-ray movies. The Xbox 360 is strictly for gaming. That's why I bought them.

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#36 bdhoff
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I don't feel ripped off.
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#37 dieselD017
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yes, bc i am on my 4 360 in 6 months due to RROD
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#38 p00phead
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no microsoft were great to me when my console got rrod they said it would take 14 days and it did and it hasn't had it again since and when i cancelled my xbox live gold subscription on my credit card it was easy and when my copy of gears broke they replaced it fast .
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#39 Supermanunbound
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The thing that make me feel ripped off is the fact that Microsoft xbox 360

only has 2 years left until they make a new system and everyone know

what happen to there last console the xbox Microsoft just killed it the completely

stopped making games all at once and didn't support it after that for anyone

that don't believe me do the research the same thing will happen when the next

console hits in 2010 mark my words on the other hand... Sony still supports

the PS2 they still make games for it years after the PS3 and the PS3 will be

supported long after there next console ...

Jas282005

THE END IS NIGH!11!!!1!1!!1two!!1!1!111

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#40 1_9_9_4
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i really dont feel that the ps3 is a better system like porky_ownsu said (no offense) the graphics are about the same (if PS3 graphics are better you cant tell from their games) and most of that stuff like blu-ray and HDMI i wouldnt even use. I mean am i the only one with a DVD player? plus xbox 360 has much bett games and in response to the original question No i dont feel ripped off by micrsoft, computer hardware gets upgraded about every six months but no-one complains about that
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#41 lmblomas
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These kind of things happen, you should be used to them already8)
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#42 XxReklawxX
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This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

The_Ripper

wow once again a sony fan baggin on the 360.

let me tell you thing Ps3 sucks ok.

microsoft cant get there system right?

ok listen sony made their system off of the wii and the 360

yeah look when they changed their controllers they were boomerangs then they looked at the wii oh will have regular controls with motion sensors in them.

yeah way to go sony.

oh and how the gaming point system goes on the ps3 yeah they came up with that one for sure.

there are several things i can name off about the ps3 but im not going to waste my time on sum sucky console

but anyways oh how many games does sony have that the 360 didnt come out with first?

you tell me.

bye

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This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

The_Ripper

No.

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[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="The_Ripper"]

This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

Bullet_Holes

Did sony owners feel ripped off when the ps2 was redesigned into the slimline and had more reliable hardware? No!!! This is what happens when your an early adopter. Improvements and upgrades will always happen in the consoles lifetime. If you don't want to feel ripped off then don't buy a next gen console early and wait a couple years.

Not necassarily. If a console stays the same from launch to death, there is nothing odd about that. The only realy guarenteed advantage to those who wait is a price drop.

There are very few consoles that go unchanged from launch to retirement, the original xbox went through 8 different versions of its motherboard, the PS2 was changed several times even before it went to the slimline. Gamecube had several changes to it's hardware, including removing the component video out that the earliest consoles had. the Playstation, N64, snes, nes and Gameboy all had hardware changes in their lifetimes. I don't know about sega, but they probably did too. It's just the nature of the product, components change and are cheaper to produce later in a console's lifetime. there was a point in the lifetime of the XBOX where they had to use 20 gig hard drives because there weren't enough 8 gig HD's available. That's probably what's happening with the 360 now, with the rapidly falling cost of hard drives, it's probably not much more expensive to use a 60 gig HD than a 20 gig HD, It's not them ripping anyone off, it's just changes in the technology. If MS would have launched with a blu ray drive, HDMI, 120 gig HD, and falcon MB, it would not have come out until 2007 for $600 and would have been slaughtered in console sales, and they would have been the ones losing all of their exclusive titles. Did they release the 360 too early? yes. Was it the wrong decision? NO.

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#45 Cpt_Bulgebelly
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[QUOTE="The_Ripper"]

This question goes out to the folks who already have a 360.

Do you feel ripped off everytime Microsoft opens their mouth?

With the announcement of the possible 60 gig hard drive, "built-in blu ray" this summer and HDMI last year, I feel ripped off because MS can't get their system right the first time.

Even the fact that they haven't updated their MS points conversion for Canadian users.

Anyone else feeling the rage?

xxxMoreBeerxxx

Not at all. Im glad that I have been able to play great games since Nov. 05. I applaud M$'s efforts for updating their system. Just as cars, tv's, ipods, computers, etc upgrade all the time why can't videogame systems? As long as you are able to play all the games on your older system whats the big deal? Now if they started making games that were only playable on the newest system then I would have a problem.

Agreed!

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#46 lilxharleyxbro
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i think if anything becomes such a big deal that it has a major effect on old 360 owners MS will try to give us a deal or something to get the new 360
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#47 gatsbythepig
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Most of the time, but I love their products... when they work.
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#49 bluem00se
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Nope, don't care. 20 gigs is enough for me when I can't even put my own videos on it like I can on a PS3, which I'm planning on re-buying within the next few months anyways (had one, sold it because nothing good was going for it, but now with the coming release of MGS4, I'm gonna get it again). Don't care about the blu-ray because Microsoft won't implement it into their games this generation, obviously. It would at the most be used for movies this generation. Also, if I wanted to watch blu-rays (which i don't really care about, i'd rather watch vids for free online *cough*), I'd watch them on my (future) PS3. And as for the rumored price drop, don't care because that's the price you pay for getting a console earlier. Sure it may be cheaper sooner, but wasn't that extra year or two worth it? Though I'd understand why someone would be pissed if they bought their 360 like a month or two before a price drop.
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#50 dkdk999
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all the time, ps3/sony is better IMO, but xbox has all the exclusives i want to play, so until i save enough to buy a ps3 to team up with my 360 i'll have to deal with microsoft:(YogidAbEAR152
this is why it would be great to have a standard where you a sony and still play every game that the microsoft one does videogames will someday be like that its ineveitable