Do you think there should be online achievements?

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#1 JtodaD
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Well I know achievements don't really do anything and are just fun to get to see the little notification at the bottom of the screen. But I am noticing more and more games are coming out with ridicules hard to get online achievements. Do you think this is a good idea? Not to mention all the 360 owners that don't have XBL
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#2 CaUs3
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yes keep online nice and fresh

Gears for example 100 kills for each gun makes people keep comming back like me :)

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#3 death1505921
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Nope, or if they have to, it should be 800 single player/200 online. Max. Or possibly 250 online.
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#4 drdrillnfill
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I know the feeling.  Some of the achievements online are so time consuming however, its a great selling tool for game makers and MS because it gets people online and spending more money.

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#5 HungryTanner
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Nope, or if they have to, it should be 800 single player/200 online. Max. Or possibly 250 online.death1505921

I agree 

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#6 lvin5992
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yes keep online nice and fresh

Gears for example 100 kills for each gun makes people keep comming back like me :)

CaUs3
Those kept me coming back but there are some like GRAW 1 that are almost impossible.
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#7 zerosolja
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Oh heck yes! I spent my whole 2006 summer wasting my life trying to get achievements. And i must say its a disease since i got fat and had to buy a new 360 cuz i played my old one 24 hrs. But i love achievements, hearing it watching it pop up, its just all so priceless!
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#8 JtodaD
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[QUOTE="CaUs3"]

yes keep online nice and fresh

Gears for example 100 kills for each gun makes people keep comming back like me :)

lvin5992
Those kept me coming back but there are some like GRAW 1 that are almost impossible.

I know, does anyone remember that achievement in Quake"Reach the top ten on the all time leader boards" WTF!
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#9 tennisacerg
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i don't really like them; because there are people who glitch to be good, which hurts the rest of us
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#10 lvin5992
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Oh heck yes! I spent my whole 2006 summer wasting my life trying to get achievements. And i must say its a disease since i got fat and had to buy a new 360 cuz i played my old one 24 hrs. But i love achievements, hearing it watching it pop up, its just all so priceless!zerosolja
***cough no life cough***
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#11 CaUs3
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makes sense
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#12 immortality20
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I made a thread on this a little while ago, and 2/3 agreed with me that online/offline should be at least 500/500 or 600 for offline. Single player is the most important thing IMO. But oh well, if the game is good I'll buy it :)

 I'm just not a big Live fan myself. I hate getting owned almost every single time, although I can beat the game on hard. I HATE it!

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#13 sharpshooter188
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i dont give a damn about achievements. do you think i care if some little snot spent 300 hrs on perfect dark zero trying to get 1000 headshots?

 

or if you found the secret vials in far cry? no. no i do not. unless theres some reward for getting the achievements (like in dead rising) that unlocks extra weapons or costumes or levels etc.

i dont care about achievements. I hate the fact that developers try and add "replay value" by just throwing a bunch of dumbass achievements.

 

 

Now if the score or points could be exchanged for like microsoft points. i.e. you get a hard achievement you get like 200 microsoft points. points you could use on the market if you dont feel like spending money.

Then by all means! the achievements would be worth something then! i dont care about bragging rights to a 15 yr old. 

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#14 CaUs3
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i hate single player

the only reason i beat gears on single player is for the gears gamer picture and the gamerscore

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#15 azorath44
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if you don't have XBL theirs no point in the having a 360
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#16 anti-Fear
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I enjoy online achievement points, but if there to hard or very time comsuming i won't do them.

For example, getting the General Achievement in Call of Duty 3. That achievement is very time comsuming, and i just lose interest after getting the Captin Achievement.

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#17 ImSwordMan
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i hate single player

the only reason i beat gears on single player is for the gears gamer picture and the gamerscore

CaUs3

 

wait...i beat it, where can i find the gamer picture? 

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#18 lvin5992
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But some games do have some real good offline play like Splinter Cell DA but the game does deliver online too.
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#19 immortality20
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i hate single player

the only reason i beat gears on single player is for the gears gamer picture and the gamerscore

CaUs3

Uh, then why are you playing Oblivion?

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#20 insane_metalist
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yeah there should be they're not hard to get
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#21 lvin5992
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[QUOTE="CaUs3"]

i hate single player

the only reason i beat gears on single player is for the gears gamer picture and the gamerscore

immortality20

Uh, then why are you playing Oblivion?

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#22 --MAV3R1CK--
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they should, I mean it would make more people come back to the games.
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#23 suzukigsxr
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I am a huge fan of achievements but I really dont like most of the online achievements. Mainly because some people get so rediculously good, it is near impossible to get some of them and I really only like to play games online with my friends and most of them don't have all of the games I do so I wont get a lot of the online achievements which hurts my overall achievement percentage.  I think they should just have single player achievements and leave it at that.
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#24 Flow4U
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not really
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#26 Legendaryscmt
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Achievements should be made for off and online, so that the people who don't have live can still get the same ones and all.
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#27 insane_metalist
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I don't mind online achievements so much as I do co-op achievements. Mostly because my friends don't have some of the games I have like Crackdown and nobody will ever let me join there game... so yea they could do without co-op achievements IMO.....drummer13us
whenever i play crackdown alot of ppl wanna join my game and i accept most
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#28 jc_tkml
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actually in some parts of my brain I keep thinking that they should just put all achievements online since you only show it off online anyway right? but if they leave the single player some people might not play it so everything should stay the same just make a more reachable achievement
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#29 kavendano14
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"I don't mind online achievements so much as I do co-op achievements. Mostly because my friends don't have some of the games I have like Crackdown and nobody will ever let me join there game... so yea they could do without co-op achievements IMO......" same here, I hate it though
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#30 raylewisnfl52
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i like challenging achevements but i dont like ones like 10000 kills or like 10000 wins or like in Rainbow Six Vegas there is one to create your face on and if you dont have a live camara you cant do it
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#31 Recboy
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you have to end it on insane mode.
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#32 JtodaD
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not reallyFlow4U
why not?
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#33 ag1002
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I like it, makes no difference  to me online or offline.  It's good in that you can see just how experienced someone is in the game by looking at their achievements. 

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#34 Anabub
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I like it, makes no difference  to me online or offline.  It's good in that you can see just how experienced someone is in the game by looking at their achievements. 

ag1002

Um I think you will find playing them in real life is the only good test .... i have loads of acheivement points and I still suck online LOL

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#35 madskills6117
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I find that online achievements ruin the online experience a lot of times. People spend more time trying to get useless achievements then actually playing for fun/to win. How many times have you joined a match in Gears and heard someone say something like "If you touch the grenades I'm quitting because I'm trying to get the achievement. I don't care if we win". How many times have you heard someone say "I can't wait to I am done with this  because I don't even like the game".

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#36 jhz
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75% offline, 25% online. Not everybody has online. An even better implementation of achievements would be ones that could be got both onlin or offline. Or possibly the player could choose if he/she is more of an online/offline player and the game could set achievements according to the players play style.
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#37 jonzilla_basic
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I like the idea of achievements
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#38 oo769er
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Nope, or if they have to, it should be 800 single player/200 online. Max. Or possibly 250 online.death1505921

That sounds good, I agree.

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#39 FMunro3251
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i like them, but some of them are too hard.  people always take this kinda stuff too serious and cheat for them anyway.  i kinda like the gears set up for achievements, but im not gonna go out of my way to get them, i'll eventually get them all by just playing for a while.
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#40 jdknight21
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[QUOTE="death1505921"]Nope, or if they have to, it should be 800 single player/200 online. Max. Or possibly 250 online.HungryTanner

I agree 

That makes 3.  Between 200-250 on-line should be max.  Achievements can be hard, but they have to be interesting.  There isn't anything fun about trying to play an honest game with people that ruin it just because they are so achievement focused it brings down the gameplay and overall experience.  Some are really fun to chase, but there are some that truly are achievements I'll never go for because they are more work than fun and I value the gametime I have too much.  It would be a different story for some if I had more time.

I actually haven't played any games on-line for at least a month because of the community and just trying to exploit everything.

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#41 G-mann07
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i personnally dont think there should be online ones because, wat about the people that dont have online. They then dont have a big gamer score and look like idiots also then again it does pull a fair bit of money for microsoft i guess thats trew.
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#42 JtodaD
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[QUOTE="G-mann07"]i personnally dont think there should be online ones because, wat about the people that dont have online. They then dont have a big gamer score and look like idiots also then again it does pull a fair bit of money for microsoft i guess thats trew.

You make a good point, but then again achievements are worth literally nothing. But If for some reason somebody wants more of them ,that doesn't have XBL, I guess it would be unfair that they don't have the same achievement unlocking opportunities.
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#43 gatsbythepig
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Well I know achievements don't really do anything and are just fun to get to see the little notification at the bottom of the screen. But I am noticing more and more games are coming out with ridicules hard to get online achievements. Do you think this is a good idea? Not to mention all the 360 owners that don't have XBLJtodaD
It only matters if you care about points or if you don't have online play.