Does any game push the 360 to its limit?

The only games that I think really pushed the 360 are Call of Duty 4 and Gears of War. However I am still not sure if there will be games in the future to surpass those titles in terms of graphics.nVidiaGaMer

Judging by the constant slow-down and terrible fram rates of Mass Effect, it not only pushes the 360 to its limits, it goes out of its way to try and murder it.karriston

Many games push the 360 to it's limits, but in terms of has a game come out that looks the best the 360 can produce, probably hasn't happened yet... Mass Effect maybe... But as for pushing the 360 to it's processing limits, happens all the time... Any time the game slows down in frame rate, or freezes up, that's because it was pushed to it's limits... Like in Oblivion... Not the best looking game, but just because of it's MASSIVE scale, there are always times where it freezes up on me.........

[QUOTE="karriston"]Judging by the constant slow-down and terrible fram rates of Mass Effect, it not only pushes the 360 to its limits, it goes out of its way to try and murder it.lokiisback

Many games push the 360 to it's limits, but in terms of has a game come out that looks the best the 360 can produce, probably hasn't happened yet... Mass Effect maybe... But as for pushing the 360 to it's processing limits, happens all the time... Any time the game slows down in frame rate, or freezes up, that's because it was pushed to it's limits... Like in Oblivion... Not the best looking game, but just because of it's MASSIVE scale, there are always times where it freezes up on me.........

I guess it varys from person to person, though. I've never had Oblivion freeze up on me nor have I experienced slow down.

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[QUOTE="karriston"]Judging by the constant slow-down and terrible fram rates of Mass Effect, it not only pushes the 360 to its limits, it goes out of its way to try and murder it.stevenk4k5

Many games push the 360 to it's limits, but in terms of has a game come out that looks the best the 360 can produce, probably hasn't happened yet... Mass Effect maybe... But as for pushing the 360 to it's processing limits, happens all the time... Any time the game slows down in frame rate, or freezes up, that's because it was pushed to it's limits... Like in Oblivion... Not the best looking game, but just because of it's MASSIVE scale, there are always times where it freezes up on me.........

I guess it varys from person to person, though. I've never had Oblivion freeze up on me nor have I experienced slow down.

It's never frozen on me, just stutter.........

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[QUOTE="karriston"]Judging by the constant slow-down and terrible fram rates of Mass Effect, it not only pushes the 360 to its limits, it goes out of its way to try and murder it.lokiisback

Many games push the 360 to it's limits, but in terms of has a game come out that looks the best the 360 can produce, probably hasn't happened yet... Mass Effect maybe... But as for pushing the 360 to it's processing limits, happens all the time... Any time the game slows down in frame rate, or freezes up, that's because it was pushed to it's limits... Like in Oblivion... Not the best looking game, but just because of it's MASSIVE scale, there are always times where it freezes up on me.........

I guess it varys from person to person, though. I've never had Oblivion freeze up on me nor have I experienced slow down.

It's never frozen on me, just stutter.........

Lol, and a lot of that has to do with the fact that like most people, if you play Oblivion, you play it hours at a time... lol.........

Judging by the constant slow-down and terrible fram rates of Mass Effect, it not only pushes the 360 to its limits, it goes out of its way to try and murder it.karriston

Hilarious!!

Mass Effect seems to be straining the limits of what the 360 can do. It's still the best game to date on the 360, but you can tell that the system is struggling a bit with it.nocoolnamejim

Best game to date?! I challenge that by saying Halo 3 is better as is Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, and many more games.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]Mass Effect seems to be straining the limits of what the 360 can do. It's still the best game to date on the 360, but you can tell that the system is struggling a bit with it.nVidiaGaMer

Best game to date?! I challenge that by saying Halo 3 is better as is Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, and many more games.

The 360 isnt maxed out yet and wont be for another couple years. Developers always find better, faster, smarter ways to develope for a console in time. Its mostly up them how a system runs. You can have a game like Mass Effect that isnt pushing the bounderies, but it has development issues which tend to make the 360 look pushed for power.

But its the delelopers faults not the console. If given proper attention games could look as great as everyone thinks Crysis looks...But it would take time and knowing how the 360 would best use its resources...mho

Have you even played Mass Effect?

Judging by the constant slow-down and terrible fram rates of Mass Effect, it not only pushes the 360 to its limits, it goes out of its way to try and murder it.karriston

Have you even played Mass Effect. The frame rate is only poor on the outside portion of a planet thats only used for one side mission. Also, every Bio-Ware game was issues. This isn't the first, nor will it be the last. They just aren't good with frame rates. Even on the PC their games do this.

Framerate issues are more a sign of bad coding than they are a system legitimately being at its max potential.

The 360 isnt maxed out yet and wont be for another couple years. Developers always find better, faster, smarter ways to develope for a console in time. Its mostly up them how a system runs. You can have a game like Mass Effect that isnt pushing the bounderies, but it has development issues which tend to make the 360 look pushed for power.

But its the delelopers faults not the console. If given proper attention games could look as great as everyone thinks Crysis looks...But it would take time and knowing how the 360 would best use its resources...mho

FunkyHeadHunter

Those of you that think the 360's hardware is being maxed out will be looking back on this mans post 2 years from now realizing.. Damn! he was right.

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The 360 isnt maxed out yet and wont be for another couple years. Developers always find better, faster, smarter ways to develope for a console in time. Its mostly up them how a system runs. You can have a game like Mass Effect that isnt pushing the bounderies, but it has development issues which tend to make the 360 look pushed for power.

But its the delelopers faults not the console. If given proper attention games could look as great as everyone thinks Crysis looks...But it would take time and knowing how the 360 would best use its resources...mho

_Suicidal_

Those of you that think the 360's hardware is being maxed out will be looking back on this mans post 2 years from now realizing.. Damn! he was right.

WOW...I dont know if I have ever been "right!"...LOL...Thanks though

. Also, every Bio-Ware game was issues. This isn't the first, nor will it be the last. They just aren't good with frame rates. Even on the PC their games do thisMrSickVisionz

well a couple times when playing ASSASSINS CREED the game was really laggy as if the game could not keep up with the frame rates.GameGuy642003

A game being laggy doesn't mean the system is being pushed to the limit. It more than likely means that there are issues with the code. I think it's funny that people think that dropped frame rates and lagginess are caused mainly by the system... That's usually the LEAST likely reason.

Well theXbox is nowhere near it's limit graphically check it out.

Processor=3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each, with acache of 1meg.

Graphics card= An unbelievably fast independent graphicscard that is still pretty much the best you could realistically obtain for a PC today.

It can display 900 million polygons and 9 billion operations a second, thats like a supercomputer.

512mg Gddr3 ram that is 700 mhz,

With the setup like it is , it is conceivably better than almost anyones computer. Short answer is no.

Well theXbox is nowhere near it's limit graphically check it out.

Processor=3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each, with acache of 1meg.

Graphics card= An unbelievably fast independent graphicscard that is still pretty much the best you could realistically obtain for a PC today.

It can display 900 million polygons and 9 billion operations a second, thats like a supercomputer.

512mg Gddr3 ram that is 700 mhz,

With the setup like it is , it is conceivably better than almost anyones computer. Short answer is no.

twiztdmike

Well theXbox is nowhere near it's limit graphically check it out.

Processor=3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each, with acache of 1meg.

Graphics card= An unbelievably fast independent graphicscard that is still pretty much the best you could realistically obtain for a PC today.

It can display 900 million polygons and 9 billion operations a second, thats like a supercomputer.

512mg Gddr3 ram that is 700 mhz,

With the setup like it is , it is conceivably better than almost anyones computer. Short answer is no.

twiztdmike

Well theXbox is nowhere near it's limit graphically check it out.

Processor=3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each, with acache of 1meg.

Graphics card= An unbelievably fast independent graphicscard that is still pretty much the best you could realistically obtain for a PC today.

It can display 900 million polygons and 9 billion operations a second, thats like a supercomputer.

512mg Gddr3 ram that is 700 mhz,

With the setup like it is , it is conceivably better than almost anyones computer. Short answer is no.

twiztdmike

needs more RAM!!! :D

Judging by the constant slow-down and terrible fram rates of Mass Effect, it not only pushes the 360 to its limits, it goes out of its way to try and murder it.karriston

it's not because of the 360's limits it has to do with the developement of the game. With more time they could have fixed that issue.

Call of Duty 4 does a pretty good job but doesn't overwhelm the 360.

I'd say the inevitable Gears of War 2 will make full use of the 360's power. If anyone downloadedthe interview with Cliffy B on xbox live, he says that Gears of War does a decent job of tapping into the 360's power.

I think it'll take time before developers will actually push the 360 to it's limits.

This isn't correct. not at all, not even a little bit. Everygame uses a different amount of resources.

Xbox live arcade games take up very little memory, games with straming content like assassins creed or crack down, will use slightly more resources than a game that loads to ram, such as stuntman ignition or tenchuz. :)

[QUOTE="karriston"]Judging by the constant slow-down and terrible fram rates of Mass Effect, it not only pushes the 360 to its limits, it goes out of its way to try and murder it.lokiisback

Many games push the 360 to it's limits, but in terms of has a game come out that looks the best the 360 can produce, probably hasn't happened yet... Mass Effect maybe... But as for pushing the 360 to it's processing limits, happens all the time... Any time the game slows down in frame rate, or freezes up, that's because it was pushed to it's limits... Like in Oblivion... Not the best looking game, but just because of it's MASSIVE scale, there are always times where it freezes up on me.........

thats actually wrong,when a game suffers a frame rate drop,or has pop up,or freezes up,that is actually the developers game engine that is being pushed to it's limit,not the 360

Well theXbox is nowhere near it's limit graphically check it out.

Processor=3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each, with acache of 1meg.

Graphics card= An unbelievably fast independent graphicscard that is still pretty much the best you could realistically obtain for a PC today.

It can display 900 million polygons and 9 billion operations a second, thats like a supercomputer.

512mg Gddr3 ram that is 700 mhz,

With the setup like it is , it is conceivably better than almost anyones computer. Short answer is no.

twiztdmike

The 360 isnt maxed out yet and wont be for another couple years. Developers always find better, faster, smarter ways to develope for a console in time. Its mostly up them how a system runs. You can have a game like Mass Effect that isnt pushing the bounderies, but it has development issues which tend to make the 360 look pushed for power.

But its the delelopers faults not the console. If given proper attention games could look as great as everyone thinks Crysis looks...But it would take time and knowing how the 360 would best use its resources...mho

FunkyHeadHunter

That is very true. Case and point, there are this day C-64 stuff being made that is 3-D and far surpases what the C-64 could ever do on paper. You will NEVER see the 360 pushed to it's limits because the next console will come out. If you know anything about coding then you know that it can be cleaned-up to a almost insurmountable amount. The power is there for both the 360 and PS3, Dev. tools help the most when pushing things but no, you will never see the 360, PS3 or Wii pushed. I have cleaned up my own code for years, it never ends.

Well guys i think Gears of war and COD4 were the best looking games so far.

but i think Resindenr evil 5 and Gears of war 2 will showcase the limit of the 360.:)

I'm an old videogamer and in my opinion the killer application fon any hardware platform is a flight simulation. It's all about the massive scale in which the the game take place, about the sense of speed, about the texture and the density of the objects on the ground etc... if anyone has got ACE COMBAT 6 you know what I mean. The game looks gorgeous but when you fly 100 ft above the terrain you can see the limit.

I don't know if Namco push 360 to the edge. But I'm pretty sure that we've to wait another generation of hardware for a photorealistic flight near the ground.

[QUOTE="karriston"]Judging by the constant slow-down and terrible fram rates of Mass Effect, it not only pushes the 360 to its limits, it goes out of its way to try and murder it.lokiisback

Many games push the 360 to it's limits, but in terms of has a game come out that looks the best the 360 can produce, probably hasn't happened yet... Mass Effect maybe... But as for pushing the 360 to it's processing limits, happens all the time... Any time the game slows down in frame rate, or freezes up, that's because it was pushed to it's limits... Like in Oblivion... Not the best looking game, but just because of it's MASSIVE scale, there are always times where it freezes up on me.........

no way Oblivion push the 360 to his processing limit because if what you say was the truth Fallout 3 will froze at the starting menu at the release date... If the Xbox freezes it's hardware failure or bad optimization.

Well it's been over 2 years since the 360 launch. Isn't it about time we start getting more games that are truly next-gen? What are they waiting for?Qixote

don't say next gen... it just a buzz word that PR people use

I think it's happening. Assassins Creed, Bioshock, COD4, Eternal Sonata, Mass Effect, and Ninja Gaiden II to name a few. _Suicidal_

I think the 360 should be called XBOX 1.5. Killzone 2 gameplay footage owns any game on the 360 including Gears of War by a long shot.nVidiaGaMer

bofffff

I think the 360 should be called XBOX 1.5. Killzone 2 gameplay footage owns any game on the 360 including Gears of War by a long shot.nVidiaGaMer

Lol, all PS3 fanboys always fall back on Killzone because most other games have FAILED!! Just cause you see some gameplay footage doesnt mean the game is gona look like that, perfect example is Two Worlds and Halo 3. They looked amazing in the footage, but failed in graphics. So dont even go there with Killzone, wait until it comes out before you judge the graphics.

And besides, if Killzone is like all the other PS3 games, it will get pushed back! :lol: