Does GOW take skills

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#1 aliaslam
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I have Halo 3, Call of Duty 4 and Gears of War... and i play all 3 games on Xbox live. I personally think that the Halo series require the most skills, then Call of Duty 4, and then Gears. I say this becuase in Gears its bascially all luck, basing it on who wins the shotun battle after going around in cirlce tryin to get each other. Most of you will critize me for saying this but people its my opinion and i have the right to express it. And i do love to play all 3 games and im not a pro at them but I will be in the charts. Who here agrees with me?
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#2 a55a55inx
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I haven't played Gears enough to say that it belongs in the 3rd spot of the 3...however, I do agree that Call of Duty 4 requires less skill than Halo3... My reason for saying so is because you have to go out and get a good weapon, there are more different types of things to master (such as; driving, shooting vehicles, etc) and it takes more shots to kill someone, which also means a more skilled player can beat another player even though He/she had fired a few seconds earlier...
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#3 dxy592
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Gears of War: Single Player on Insane is pretty easy, just don't duck out of cover for too long and you should be fine. Multiplayer takes a bit of skill, especially because of lag issues.

Call of Duty 4: Single Player on Veteran is very very frustrating but doable, if you have the time and patience. Multiplayer can be very punishing to newcomers, so get good at Single Player first.

Halo 3: Single Player is pretty tough, but is much easier in co-op. Multiplayer also takes a whole lot of skill and fast reflexes.

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#4 Hulkness
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If your playing against people who are good the order goes like this.

Halo3=GeoW, CoD4. Halo and Gears are equall because they both take smarts and you will normally have to outshoot someone with either a BR or a shotgun. It takes skill to out shoot someone and smarts to make sure you know where they are. In CoD4 it takes smarts to know where someone is and you dont have to outshoot them because there isint really a gun battle in a one hit kill game.

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#5 white_sox
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Gears takes more skill and is tougher to get into that the other two you mentioned.
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#6 zero9167
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Gears takes more skill. and also if you play on a good connection and the players have good connections you won't have people running around in circles with shotty's. That only happens because of bullet lag; hopefully it'll be fixed in Gears2.
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Don't understand how people think Call of Duty takes more skill than Gears. It takes more than 3 bullets to kill someone, and you can actually evade gunfire in it.
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#8 Hulkness
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Don't understand how people think Call of Duty takes more skill than Gears. It takes more than 3 bullets to kill someone, and you can actually evade gunfire in it.Hitchy9

Some people dont understand competetive play.

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#9 Avenger1324
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Halo uses sensible match-making, putting players of similar level/rank together.

COD uses a stupid match-making system, putting anyone of different levels together, so a new player can easily find themselves in a game alongside Prestige 10 Rank 55 players. Since weapons are decided before the fighting begins, higher level players have the odds stacked in their favour

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#10 Tundrawarlord
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Ide say its more of a rythum game. Knowing when to jump and when to shotgun, and do the little aming thing befor your shoot.
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#11 GSU28
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Rofl. Halo takes the least skill of any game I have ever played. All you do is spray randomly until you get close enough to melee a guy. CoD4 easily takes the most skill. Why? Because you actually have to AIM. Gears of War takes a decent amount of skill, but nothing near COD4. An arcade shooter that actually does take skill is the Unreal series. Halo is a joke.
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Don't understand how people think Call of Duty takes more skill than Gears. It takes more than 3 bullets to kill someone, and you can actually evade gunfire in it.Hitchy9

finally someone that knows the game. LOL. i get shot and run away all the time, even without the health bonus. CoD is not a run in and shoot game. it can be, but then your wasting your chances to get the airstrikes and helis. it takes skill to get the streaks, and if you say it doesnt, then you just have an unrecognized skill.

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#13 splo0ge
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Halo 3. I think this is a pretty easy game. I am the MVP almost every game. I play alot of team games, even if we lose I still get MVP. I wonder sometimes why I am the best player on the current game when I've only had this game 3 weeks? lol

COD 4 = easy kills. you have to be more careful though. Most guns kill you in 3-4 shots. I noticed at first its a little tough, but once your about lvl 10 you are starting to raise your k/d. The perks also make the game a little more difficult, having to watch for a martyrdom nade, or a last stand guy pistoling you in the back.

GOW is quite difficult on multiplayer. I have played it since it came out, and it has to be the toughest of the 3 in my opinion. It takes some serious skill to pull of a shotty kill when you are versing a good opponent. Maybe the reason its tougher is because its been out longer than the other 2. Who knows?

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#14 wtfandyk
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Rofl. Halo takes the least skill of any game I have ever played. All you do is spray randomly until you get close enough to melee a guy. CoD4 easily takes the most skill. Why? Because you actually have to AIM. Gears of War takes a decent amount of skill, but nothing near COD4. An arcade shooter that actually does take skill is the Unreal series. Halo is a joke.GSU28

Id like to know what matches you are playing in halo where you dont have to aim and just spray people to get kills, I want to play that game type.

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#15 MsCortana
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I would argue that almost any game played requires a certain amount of skill. At the very least, hand-eye coordination :lol:
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#16 Trickshot771
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It really depends on what you're doing. If you're trying to chainsaw someone, kill someone with the lancer or hammerburst, use the boomshot, down someone with a sniper, or beat someone down (a few examples) then it doesn't. Some stuff does, though.
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#17 wallace55
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Wrong. Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4 both take 0 skill level. Anyone who picks up a controller for the first time can be good at these games. I say this because I had my girlfriend try playing and she did pretty good against decent players. You are entitled to your opinion this is true i just dont agree with it. A game like GOW where there is a cover system takes skill. i dont know the people you have been playing with but it's not all about the shotgun. there is an actual strategy when playing GOW. And yes luck has something to do with every game, not just GOW. I dont know why people insist on saying Halo 3 or any Halo is a good game. your shooting little gay aliens wearing rainbow armor. Not to mention the multi player sucks. i played this game for like a week and it was so boring to me. Not sure what i am missing but it's something. I'm sure there are many people who agree and disagree with me.
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#18 monkeysrule16
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GOW takes way more skill than halo and COD4. in both of those expect to die often. GOW takes some strategy.
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#19 Spartans_317
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1. Gears of War - takes many bullets to kill someone, you gotta be very careful and everyone starts as a noob in the MP

2. Halo 3 - take many bullets to kill someone but less skills then Gears, some people dont start as noobs

3. COD4 - easy to get good in because of the few shots = kill and i started the game with a 1.10 kill ratio. Easy

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#20 Kyoshiro19
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LOL since when does shooters take skill? They take little to no skill pretty much.
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Most of these games boil down to luck and experience, skill is an illusion. Halo 3 depends on how well you can lead your shots on, use effective combos, evade bullets and use availible resources effectively and quickly. All that simply requires you to have played enough to learn how to use these tecniques. You could argue that a degree of skill is needed to apply them, and i will concede that you need skill to learn them QUICKLY, but over time anyone will get good at halo.

Gears is the same, you need to learn how to cope with the lag, how to play as a team, and what weapons to use in which circumstance (and how to avoid chainsaws) skill is replaced by luck here, as good players will normally do the same things (a.k.a. shotty circles) and whoever hits first or avoids the lag will often win.

I play call of duty the most, but i will say COD 4 is around 90% knowledge of the map and equipment, and about 10% learning effective ways to use each gun. The most skill you need is sniping, but even that boils down to picking your shots correctly.

The difference between skill and experience, in my opinion, is something not everyone can do, you could call skill 'refined talent' creating a memorable guitar riff takes skill, we can't all do it. Playing at the olympics takes skill, we aren't all built to do it. However, learning the guitar takes experience, because anyone can become a good guitar player with dedication and practice, like wise anyone can train to become an athlete.

The difference is separating the good from the great, and in videogames, there is no way to do that, as nobody can reach a point that other cannot (exceptions might be rock band)

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#22 great_rulo
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Halo uses sensible match-making, putting players of similar level/rank together.

COD uses a stupid match-making system, putting anyone of different levels together, so a new player can easily find themselves in a game alongside Prestige 10 Rank 55 players. Since weapons are decided before the fighting begins, higher level players have the odds stacked in their favour

Avenger1324

Thats not always true, one time, i began the match-making in team deathmatch, i was put in a group of 4 level 10 prestiges, i was in the opposite team, i was level 3 prestige on level 14, and my team won the match with me getting the most kills with a silenced MP5.

Though i do think that Halo 3 and Gears of war take equally a lot more skill than COD4.

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Most of these games boil down to luck and experience, skill is an illusion. Halo 3 depends on how well you can lead your shots on, use effective combos, evade bullets and use availible resources effectively and quickly. All that simply requires you to have played enough to learn how to use these tecniques. You could argue that a degree of skill is needed to apply them, and i will concede that you need skill to learn them QUICKLY, but over time anyone will get good at halo.

Gears is the same, you need to learn how to cope with the lag, how to play as a team, and what weapons to use in which circumstance (and how to avoid chainsaws) skill is replaced by luck here, as good players will normally do the same things (a.k.a. shotty circles) and whoever hits first or avoids the lag will often win.

I play call of duty the most, but i will say COD 4 is around 90% knowledge of the map and equipment, and about 10% learning effective ways to use each gun. The most skill you need is sniping, but even that boils down to picking your shots correctly.

The difference between skill and experience, in my opinion, is something not everyone can do, you could call skill 'refined talent' creating a memorable guitar riff takes skill, we can't all do it. Playing at the olympics takes skill, we aren't all built to do it. However, learning the guitar takes experience, because anyone can become a good guitar player with dedication and practice, like wise anyone can train to become an athlete.

The difference is separating the good from the great, and in videogames, there is no way to do that, as nobody can reach a point that other cannot (exceptions might be rock band)

JJpenguin

Ninja Gaiden also takes a lot of great skill in higher difficulties, believe me, hard mode is like Veteran in COD4, Very hard and Master ninja are only for pros.

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#24 HairyManbeast
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takes skill to snipe a moving opponent in gears

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#25 twobad4u
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Gears requires alot of patience ,too much for my taste.Almost boring , I did not like this game . COD 4 & Halo 3 & Rainbow Six are far superior shooter ... And ALOT more fun -Multi and Single !
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#26 FLzthvikings87
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I think that gears takes much more skill than all of them. There is terrible lag, no auto aim assist, and sniping in that game, if you arnt using actives, is very difficult.
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#27 Ayessua
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Really? I always thought Halo took no skill at all.

When I started playing Gears online I remember I had like 3 kills in 10 rounds. In Halo on the other hand I killed multiple people easily before dying. I always found it to really be more a matter of who sees whom first instead of skill.

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#28 Xxgood-timesXx
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GOW, it takes major skill to pull off wall bouncing etc at a fast pace, i think Gow emphisises more on the squad based concept than the 2 other games both in multiplayer and single.
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#29 Fondness
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Yes, it does.
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#30 Fondness
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GOW, it takes major skill to pull off wall bouncing etc at a fast pace, i think Gow emphisises more on the squad based concept than the 2 other games both in multiplayer and single.Xxgood-timesXx

I agree.

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#31 aliaslam
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I agree with you but i can tell that im not a pro or anything but in halo series i probably have mastered "skills" and i can show you this if you want to tag along in a multiplayer match. My GamerTag is Ali 7163. Gears of War to me whoever gets lucky first. Ok i dont know wht "bullet Lag" is but to me thats what is seems like. Now i can assure you that GOW sniping is the most difficult and if you've have mastered sniping in GOW than you can say that you one of the best players on GOW. Call of duty is all based on who comes to a match prepared with his perks and weapons all matched up correctly. Thats my opinion.

Halo 3. I think this is a pretty easy game. I am the MVP almost every game. I play alot of team games, even if we lose I still get MVP. I wonder sometimes why I am the best player on the current game when I've only had this game 3 weeks? lol

COD 4 = easy kills. you have to be more careful though. Most guns kill you in 3-4 shots. I noticed at first its a little tough, but once your about lvl 10 you are starting to raise your k/d. The perks also make the game a little more difficult, having to watch for a martyrdom nade, or a last stand guy pistoling you in the back.

GOW is quite difficult on multiplayer. I have played it since it came out, and it has to be the toughest of the 3 in my opinion. It takes some serious skill to pull of a shotty kill when you are versing a good opponent. Maybe the reason its tougher is because its been out longer than the other 2. Who knows?

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#32 aliaslam
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Another way you might wanna try is looking at montages of these 3 games on youtube or something. We can see that GOW and Call of duty 4 montages are mostly from but not all are taken from different matches and have them put together where in halo series most but again not all montages are from the same match with few clips from different matches. Again you may not agree with me on this but you can tell if someone has skills in the game, and in halo i can tell if someone has mastered or gotten better at one thing. If you're getting MVP in matches than by looking at the definition of skills in gaming.. you have more skills than the peole who you were playing with. And one thing i dont get is why do people keep saying that halo series is all about a shootout ending with a melee. thats not always the case where for me in GOW thats always the case.
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#33 Hulkness
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Really? I always thought Halo took no skill at all.

When I started playing Gears online I remember I had like 3 kills in 10 rounds. In Halo on the other hand I killed multiple people easily before dying. I always found it to really be more a matter of who sees whom first instead of skill.

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Thats because Halo matches you with other people that just started where as Gears you will get with people who have been playing alot.

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#34 Hulkness
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If you play against a pro Gears/Halo player and your a noob you probably arent going to get a kill maybe 1-2 at most. CoD4 that isint the case. The noob can just aimm the m16 and kill the guy one shot then boom the noob can win.
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#35 mohfrontline
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halo is the easiest game I've ever played. I don't know why people think it's hard to play. Gears takes the most skill of all the 3 games because it's almost impossible to snipe and it's much more impressive when I see a non host do amazing than some halo 3 player do good.
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#36 Hulkness
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halo is the easiest game I've ever played. I don't know why people think it's hard to play. Gears takes the most skill of all the 3 games because it's almost impossible to snipe and it's much more impressive when I see a non host do amazing than some halo 3 player do good.mohfrontline

The way the game looks doesent mean it takes more skill. I bet if you played a pro in Halo you wouldent get a kill.

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#37 FLzthvikings87
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does wacking off an elephant take skill?
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#38 Shmiity
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In gears MP, you have to know what your doing, or your not going to kill anyone.

Its not like COD, where you can take a guy out within a few bullets.

You can take so many bullets in gears, you really need to know how to take down your target.

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#39 a55a55inx
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i think some people in this forum need to look up the word "skill" in the dictionary...because it seems to me that some people have made their own definitions of it...
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#40 zero9167
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1. Gears of War - takes many bullets to kill someone, you gotta be very careful and everyone starts as a noob in the MP

2. Halo 3 - take many bullets to kill someone but less skills then Gears, some people dont start as noobs

3. COD4 - easy to get good in because of the few shots = kill and i started the game with a 1.10 kill ratio. Easy

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actually theres lots of ways to kill people in 1 shot with most weapons in gears but its difficult

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#41 ChevelleFan
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Personally I found mastering the multiplayer on Gears the hardest because there are so few "uber" weapons on the maps and the grenades are extremely deadly. I found getting into COD4 very easy mainly because I played COD2 all the time which feels very similar. As for Halo 3, well I mean it is not terribly hard to weapon camp and end up winning a battle. Halo does not take fast response skill like COD4 and Gears more than it does knowledge of weapon spawns and good positions. Of course it does take some time getting used to weapons like the spartan laser and the sniper rifle which some might call skill. Again it just comes down to preference and opinion.
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#42 PotatoSandWitch
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Halo3 is the most skill dependant of the three, hands down. I don't know about CoD4 vs. Gears.
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#43 mohfrontline
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Really? I always thought Halo took no skill at all.

When I started playing Gears online I remember I had like 3 kills in 10 rounds. In Halo on the other hand I killed multiple people easily before dying. I always found it to really be more a matter of who sees whom first instead of skill.

Ayessua

I couldn't have said it better

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#44 twobad4u
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patience.....duck & cover then shoot rinse repeat
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#45 Bloodbath_87
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GOW takes luck, really.
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#46 zero9167
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GOW takes luck, really.Bloodbath_87
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it takes skill to be consistent. no one is going to have the same luck in every single game they play.