Does XBOX Live Attract Racists....or Draw Racism out of us?

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#1 wonderer
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I gotta admit, there is a huge problem with the presence of racial harrassment on XBOX Live. If your voice even "sounds" like a non-white person, people will blast you with racial profanity like they even knew what you looked like. My question is, is this presence due to the fact racists feel this is a safe place to call people the "n" word and other racial insults without getting into trouble, or because gamers get caught up in the feeling of escape and empowerement in a virtual world making them say things they would not normally.

I think if there were more minority gamers out there, this would be brought up as a bigger issue than is treated. I also notice, that alot of people will listen to others yell racial profanity and not do anything about it. That basically, they don't care. I would like to make one thing clear, that is xbox live is not "white territory", it is for everyone to enjoy. And if you have a problem with minorities, I think its pathetic that your using xbox live to voice your ignorance and a coward to hide behind your mic like that.

Just to make one last thing clear, while most of what I hear are insults toward minorities, I have also h minorties insulting white gamers as well. I think both ways are wrong and a problem that needs to be resolved better. The trick is voice communication is harder to track as evidence compared to text such as if this would occur on an MMO like WOW.

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#2 angryguywalking
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No.

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#3 shufu7-11
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I think it's a combination of both. I'll admit, sometimes I get caught up in the moment and say something I wouldn't normally say. For some people, however, this is not the case. They feel that since they are anonymous, they can say or do whatever they want because they can't get in some kind of trouble for it, no matter how offensive it is.
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#4 Trickshot771
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Although I believe that there's a fair share of filthy people in the Xbox Live community, I'm guessing most of them aren't as racist as they act. They just say the stuff they do because they can't get in trouble and odds are they'll never see the people they're playing with again.
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both.

No.

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good job reading his entire post :roll:

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#6 Strife88
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Yeah, think about it. If they're racist on Xbox Live than what's going to happen, negative feedback... if it was to someone's face i'm sure they wouldn't get a consequence as weak as that.
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#7 A22A221N_47
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i think people do it because ya they think it's safe and no one will do anything about it and it's kinda true
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#8 Mau-Justice
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Not racists, the internet in general just attracts idiots. People act retarded because they can hide behind a monitor.
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#9 zaman48
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Yeah, think about it. If they're racist on Xbox Live than what's going to happen, negative feedback... if it was to someone's face i'm sure they wouldn't get a consequence as weak as that.Strife88

yeah really, i would love to see some of the "racists" on xbox live say that same stuff to someone elses face, or to mine, and then get the crap beat out of them.

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#10 kerrman
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One person's "racism" is another person's sense of humor. And yes, being an annoymous voice in someone's ear WILL draw that out of some people. They think it's funny, most people think it's offensive.. they don't learn this.
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#11 Strife88
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[QUOTE="Strife88"]Yeah, think about it. If they're racist on Xbox Live than what's going to happen, negative feedback... if it was to someone's face i'm sure they wouldn't get a consequence as weak as that.zaman48

yeah really, i would love to see some of the "racists" on xbox live say that same stuff to someone elses face, or to mine, and then get the crap beat out of them.


Haha, exactly.
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#12 miguelpaco
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it does neither, it simply exposes them..
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Ya they act cool/tough because they are hiding behind a TV screen.
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#14 IWasGod
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people have no fear of consequence with xbl. what? get suspended for 2 days which rarely happens. its astounding some of the things that come out of peoples mouthes on xbl. i find it obsurd. and guarentee that 99% of the people that make racist comments would never say it to somones face. i mean i have made racists comments before, but thats with friends of mine who couldnt care less ya know. but whatever, people = ignorance.
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#15 ps2forever
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Not racists, the internet in general just attracts idiots. People act retarded because they can hide behind a monitor.Mau-Justice

yea i Agree this this guy right here. The internet just attract dumbA$$3S , nothing racial. Because they know that if they say something racist they won't get caught or hurt. Unless, microsoft decides to Moniter every conversation going around on XBL. But that would be impossible. becasue the numbers of subscribers are well over the 10 million mark HELL YA!!!!

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#16 A22A221N_47
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talking s*** on the internet is just like winning the special olimpics even tho you win ur still retarded
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#17 Nocturnal15
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Actually its the simple fact that people can remain anonymous. No one will ever know who they are so people take advantage of that and try to be tough online. I bet in reality right in your face these people are actually cowards.

The formula is old. Anonymity provided by the interweb + Person = Online Idiocy.

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#18 Awful_Cleric
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First let me say that I think it's a abominable shame that those here have experienced racist conduct on Xboxlive, I myself have never encountered any racial hostility or any purveyance of racist conduct sure I run into the odd or some 12 year old who wants to talk poop, but that's cool I understand that there are jerks and hypocrites aplenty in this world.

Now having said that let's get something clear. Humans are a Very judgemental,hateful,vindictive species. We're the only creatures on this planet who not only have no trouble killing or enslaving our own kind, but we also have allowed ourselves to separate and judge each other upon social constructs that are of our own devising i.e. Race,Class,Religion. No matter what you do if you go outside or hook up you Xbox there is always going to be people out there who are hateful,disgusting racists.

Even To call it "Racism" bothers me, Because last time I checked we all belonged to ONE race and that's "The Human Race" Doesn't matter what color we are if your going to join online and be apart of a gaming community you have to distinguish yourself and all those that you meet with the same honor you would have bestowed upon yourself.

Join The 21st Century!!!!

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First let me say that I think it's a abominable shame that those here have experienced racist conduct on Xboxlive, I myself have never encountered any racial hostility or any purveyance of racist conduct sure I run into the odd or some 12 year old who wants to talk poop, but that's cool I understand that there are jerks and hypocrites aplenty in this world.

Now having said that let's get something clear. Humans are a Very judgemental,hateful,vindictive species. We're the only creatures on this planet who not only have no trouble killing or enslaving our own kind, but we also have allowed ourselves to separate and judge each other upon social constructs that are of our own devising i.e. Race,Class,Religion. No matter what you do if you go outside or hook up you Xbox there is always going to be people out there who are hateful,disgusting racists.

Even To call it "Racism" bothers me, Because last time I checked we all belonged to ONE race and that's "The Human Race" Doesn't matter what color we are if your going to join online and be apart of a gaming community you have to distinguish yourself and all those that you meet with the same honor you would have bestowed upon yourself.

Join The 21st Century!!!!

Awful_Cleric

After reading that, I came to the conclusion that you 1) never played any online games or 2) played online games with absolutely no communication what so ever. If to this day you havent encountered a single jerk online who abuses the fact that he will never be known thus spitting insults everywhere, then you probably havent been playing online at all. However, I do agree with what you stated in the last 2 paragraphs. Sad thing is...people wont come to the realization that its the 21st century specifically 2008 and that we should just get the f*** along already.

I can understand minor competitive insults such as "oh you stink at this game" but to throw around racial slurs and what not is pretty pitiful.

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#20 Awful_Cleric
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I'm glad you quipped in time. For a moment there my friend the severity of your highly judgemental accusation of my particualr online habits was about to make me think that you were the first jerk I've encountered in my getting online. lol kidding

However I do agree with you. most of the time I do play games online with a solid group of friends that I have known for a while.

Yet to further my point they are very good people i have met online and not at all racist and I don't allow myself to be involved with people who just want to vent their lifestyles through the online gaming.

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#21 unkling
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I think on forums and on xbl or even the internet in general, because people don't come face-to-face with others and have a somewhat protective place to express themselves, many take out hostilites in unhealthy ways they wouldn't normally in front of a real flesh and blood crowd. And when there's competition thrown into the mix, you'll always see a small amount getting personal or just acting without thinking in general, whether it be a racial slur or just foul language or threats or whatever. I'm not saying that's an excue for such behavior I just think that's the socialogy to it. I luckily have never come across racial slurs or anything when I've played online, but I'm sure it happens here and there unfortunately...
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I've experienced so much racism on xbox live, weather it was some puerto ricans, my own culture calling me a white boy or stupid negro, or some junkies calling me a stupid indian or asian.

Its crazy, most of those people are idiots, they only say that **** because they are at home safe from anyone kicking the **** out of their **** stupid little gay faces, if they said that **** outside in the real world, people would **** beat the holy crap out of them, i'm sick of racism, its getting rediculous!

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I've experienced so much racism on xbox live, weather it was some puerto ricans, my own culture calling me a white boy or stupid negro, or some junkies calling me a stupid indian or asian.

Its crazy, most of those people are idiots, they only say that **** because they are at home safe from anyone kicking the **** out of their **** stupid little gay faces, if they said that **** outside in the real world, people would **** beat the holy crap out of them, i'm sick of racism, its getting rediculous!

DanteTheLegend3

lol.........you're sick of racism, but you decided to throw in "little gay faces"..

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It sucks that racism is still an issue in the world today, thats all ill say about this.
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#25 DanteTheLegend3
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[QUOTE="DanteTheLegend3"]

I've experienced so much racism on xbox live, weather it was some puerto ricans, my own culture calling me a white boy or stupid negro, or some junkies calling me a stupid indian or asian.

Its crazy, most of those people are idiots, they only say that **** because they are at home safe from anyone kicking the **** out of their **** stupid little gay faces, if they said that **** outside in the real world, people would **** beat the holy crap out of them, i'm sick of racism, its getting rediculous!

miguelpaco

lol.........you're sick of racism, but you decided to throw in "little gay faces"..

Hey! thats not racist, when i said little gay faces i meant the little gay 12 year olds who play halo and scream niigggaaaaaaaa all day long.

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#26 miguelpaco
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[QUOTE="miguelpaco"][QUOTE="DanteTheLegend3"]

I've experienced so much racism on xbox live, weather it was some puerto ricans, my own culture calling me a white boy or stupid negro, or some junkies calling me a stupid indian or asian.

Its crazy, most of those people are idiots, they only say that **** because they are at home safe from anyone kicking the **** out of their **** stupid little gay faces, if they said that **** outside in the real world, people would **** beat the holy crap out of them, i'm sick of racism, its getting rediculous!

DanteTheLegend3

lol.........you're sick of racism, but you decided to throw in "little gay faces"..

Hey! thats not racist, when i said little gay faces i meant the little gay 12 year olds who play halo and scream niigggaaaaaaaa all day long.

well no offense, cuz im guilty of using that same saying, but to describe something as gay can offend certain people just as much as words that put down certain ethnicities

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#27 DanteTheLegend3
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[QUOTE="DanteTheLegend3"][QUOTE="miguelpaco"][QUOTE="DanteTheLegend3"]

I've experienced so much racism on xbox live, weather it was some puerto ricans, my own culture calling me a white boy or stupid negro, or some junkies calling me a stupid indian or asian.

Its crazy, most of those people are idiots, they only say that **** because they are at home safe from anyone kicking the **** out of their **** stupid little fluck faces, if they said that **** outside in the real world, people would **** beat the holy crap out of them, i'm sick of racism, its getting rediculous!

miguelpaco

lol.........you're sick of racism, but you decided to throw in "little gay faces"..

Hey! thats not racist, when i said little fluck faces i meant the little gay 12 year olds who play halo and scream niigggaaaaaaaa all day long.

well no offense, cuz im guilty of using that same saying, but to describe something as gay can offend certain people just as much as words that put down certain ethnicities

i fixed it, is that better? :D

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#28 bdhoff
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Live is not a contributing factor as much as being a 13 year old boy is. The anonymity of Live makes people into internet tough guys since you can't reach out and smack them for being idiots. It sucks that people say mean things, but about the only thing I can say is that maybe you mute the people that you don't want to listen to. It isn't like you're powerless. If you're hosting the game then block them. It takes some work, but you can build a good friends list and you won't have to meet up with random morons as often.
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