Fallout New Vegas: Will it actually be any good?

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#1 Rekashal
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While I was playing Fallout 3, I came to the conclusion that games made by Bethesda will always be hyped like crazy. Bethesda as a developer does have a very good track record with games but I don't feel that they are as good or as ground-breaking as many people claim. Fallout 3 in my opinion was just one big open sandbox without much direction. I feel that if they don't change how the game plays it will basically be Fallout 3 with a new setting. Any thoughts on this?
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#2 Wakanoid
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It's not being made by Bethesda this time. Rebellion apparently is making it.
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Rebellion? How about Obsidian.
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#4 craigalan23
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Bethesda isn't developing it so it should be good. If Bethesda was developing it I wouldn't buy it.

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#5 DranzarTypeF
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It's not being made by Bethesda this time. Rebellion apparently is making it.Wakanoid
Is that a branch of Obsidian Entertainment ? anyways I want it to be different than FO3, they can keep the engine, but gameplay needs to be refined IMO.
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#6 Agent-Zero
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Its not made by Bethesda, but I expect it to be largely similar to Fallout3, except in Vegas(ie more boobies)
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#7 stupid4
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How are we supposed to know?

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#8 mtradr43
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no beth, no buy for me.
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#9 rolo107
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Clearly not everyone is gonna like a game, especially one like Fallout 3 or Oblivion. If you don't like it, it doesn't instantly mean it's overrated, that's a bit of a self-centered outlook.
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#10 Rekashal
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To be fair I never said that I didn't like the game. It's a good game but its not as good as people say. Besides thats my opinion so its not self centered at all. I don't feel that I said anything that would even lead to being self centered, all I did was voice my opinion and ask for comments. Nothing self centered about that. As for the topic, I didn't know that Bethesda was not leading the project. I thought it was, are they just the publisher for the project? I know that will that lawsuit with Interplay that Bethesda owns it. Am I correct?
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#11 Wakanoid
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-.- Sorry, I fail. Rebellions stuck in my head :P
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#12 ASK_Story
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It's from Obsidian. They do a good job of capturing the gameplay of the original developers, so I have confidence that New Vegas will play, feel, and progress like Fallout 3 with a few more features of their own.
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#13 jasonharris48
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Well it is being developed by Obsidian. So a lot of the old members of Interplay will be working on the game. I expect to be good possibly better than FallOut 3.

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#14 jackelzx
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Bethesda isn't developing it so it should be good. If Bethesda was developing it I wouldn't buy it.

craigalan23

Well its using the same game system (can't remember the right word) as fallout 3 so it will feel the same, but i'm glad to hear that developers from the first and second are on hands with the new one.

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#15 craigalan23
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[QUOTE="craigalan23"]

Bethesda isn't developing it so it should be good. If Bethesda was developing it I wouldn't buy it.

jackelzx

Well its using the same game system (can't remember the right word) as fallout 3 so it will feel the same, but i'm glad to hear that developers from the first and second are on hands with the new one.

Feeling the same is very different to what Bethesda does to sequels. They took so much stuff out of Oblivion that I was shocked it scored so high. I never played the original Fallout games so I can only imagine what they did to that series.. I don't trust Bethsda's games and I never will again.
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#16 DranzarTypeF
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[QUOTE="jackelzx"]

[QUOTE="craigalan23"]

Bethesda isn't developing it so it should be good. If Bethesda was developing it I wouldn't buy it.

craigalan23

Well its using the same game system (can't remember the right word) as fallout 3 so it will feel the same, but i'm glad to hear that developers from the first and second are on hands with the new one.

Feeling the same is very different to what Bethesda does to sequels. They took so much stuff out of Oblivion that I was shocked it scored so high. I never played the original Fallout games so I can only imagine what they did to that series.. I don't trust Bethsda's games and I never will again.

Same here, Fallout 3 felt like a huge mod for Oblivion IMO, the GOTY praising and "original" concepts for Bethesda I felt were undeserving. I'm glad Obsidian, a company that is most familiar with Fallout universe is at the helms this time around.
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#17 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="craigalan23"]

Bethesda isn't developing it so it should be good. If Bethesda was developing it I wouldn't buy it.

jackelzx

Well its using the same game system (can't remember the right word) as fallout 3 so it will feel the same, but i'm glad to hear that developers from the first and second are on hands with the new one.

Just because it is using the same engine doesn't mean it will have the same gameplay. Like I said earlier New Vegas is being developed by a lot of members who worked on FallOut 1 &2. I really do not expect an exactFallOut 3 clone to much

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#18 jad206
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Bethesda isn't developing it so it should be good. If Bethesda was developing it I wouldn't buy it.

craigalan23
What? I am only renting it because Bethesda isn't making it.
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#19 craigalan23
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[QUOTE="craigalan23"]

Bethesda isn't developing it so it should be good. If Bethesda was developing it I wouldn't buy it.

jad206
What? I am only renting it because Bethesda isn't making it.

They messed up Oblivion by removing a lot of stuff for no reason. Reviewers never even mentioned it which I thought was ridiculous. Two reasons why I wont trust a game that Bethesda develops..
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[QUOTE="craigalan23"]

Bethesda isn't developing it so it should be good. If Bethesda was developing it I wouldn't buy it.

jad206

What? I am only renting it because Bethesda isn't making it.

Dude what!? A far better team is working on it.

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#21 Phoenix534
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Didn't we answer you in the PS3 forum?

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#22 jad206
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[QUOTE="jad206"][QUOTE="craigalan23"]

Bethesda isn't developing it so it should be good. If Bethesda was developing it I wouldn't buy it.

jasonharris48

What? I am only renting it because Bethesda isn't making it.

Dude what!? A far better team is working on it.

Ya, because their MMO is coming along great.
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#23 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="jad206"] What? I am only renting it because Bethesda isn't making it.jad206

Dude what!? A far better team is working on it.

Ya, because their MMO is coming along great.

What are you talking about? Obsidian isn't the team that is working on the FallOut MMO (Interplay is). The only two games Obsidian is working on is New Vages and Alpha Protocol. Maybe you should check your sources before posting.

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[QUOTE="jad206"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] Dude what!? A far better team is working on it.

jasonharris48

Ya, because their MMO is coming along great.

What are you talking about? Obsidian isn't the team that is working on the FallOut MMO (Interplay is). The only two games Obsidian is working on is New Vages and Alpha Protocol. Maybe you should check your sources before posting.

I believe Jad206 is referring to Bethesda's current work on an MMO, not Obsidian. The "source" for this revelation comes from Bethesda's court filings in its dust-up with Interplay.

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#25 Pitbulllova
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lets hope so! fallout 3 was frigging AWESOME!! my 2nd favourite game ever, only behind conkers bad fur day
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#26 DranzarTypeF
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[QUOTE="craigalan23"]

Bethesda isn't developing it so it should be good. If Bethesda was developing it I wouldn't buy it.

jad206
What? I am only renting it because Bethesda isn't making it.

Who knows Fallout better than Obsidian ? are you a fan of "Fallout" or "Fallout 3" ? because most belive Obsidian can do a better job on Fallout universe than Bethesda did. Just think of it as a spinoff if you would like.
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#27 SoAmazingBaby
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Why? They made the game and it was good?
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#28 Hakud0ushi
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If the game get better graphics i'll get it. Didn't liked the graphics on first one.
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#29 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="jad206"][QUOTE="craigalan23"]

Bethesda isn't developing it so it should be good. If Bethesda was developing it I wouldn't buy it.

DranzarTypeF

What? I am only renting it because Bethesda isn't making it.

Who knows Fallout better than Obsidian ? are you a fan of "Fallout" or "Fallout 3" ? because most know Obsidian can do a better job on Fallout universe than Bethesda did. Just think of it as a spinoff if you would like.

fixed. Seriously people. If anyone knows how to make Fallout, it's Obsidian.

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#30 Phoenix534
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If the game get better graphics i'll get it. Didn't liked the graphics on first one.Hakud0ushi

Well of course the first has bad graphics. It was made in 1997.

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#31 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="jad206"] Ya, because their MMO is coming along great.sogni_belli

What are you talking about? Obsidian isn't the team that is working on the FallOut MMO (Interplay is). The only two games Obsidian is working on is New Vages and Alpha Protocol. Maybe you should check your sources before posting.

I believe Jad206 is referring to Bethesda's current work on an MMO, not Obsidian. The "source" for this revelation comes from Bethesda's court filings in its dust-up with Interplay.

He wasn't referring to Bethesda though. Read his last post after I made the remark that a better dev team than Bethesda was working on the game.

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[QUOTE="Hakud0ushi"]If the game get better graphics i'll get it. Didn't liked the graphics on first one.Phoenix534

Well of course the first has bad graphics. It was made in 1997.

Thats suppose to be funny? Sorry if i didn't laugh. Fallout 3 is the only famous anyway.
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#33 Rekashal
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If the game get better graphics i'll get it. Didn't liked the graphics on first one.Hakud0ushi

Really? So your buying a game based on graphics? Thats kind of superfical if you ask me

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#34 chaoscougar1
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how is anyone suppose to give a definitive answer to this? we have only seen one trailer...
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#35 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="Hakud0ushi"]If the game get better graphics i'll get it. Didn't liked the graphics on first one.Hakud0ushi

Well of course the first has bad graphics. It was made in 1997.

Thats suppose to be funny? Sorry if i didn't laugh. Fallout 3 is the only famous anyway.

ahahahaha wow; two fantastic statements 'if the game get better graphics i'll get it', because of course graphics>gameplay :roll: and then 'fallout 3 is the only famous anyway' how wrong you are...people wouldnt have been so psyched for fallout 3 if they didnt know about fallout 1/2
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#36 Rekashal
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I hate graphic whores. About how you can answer this? I am not asking for an answer, I want disscussion.

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#37 chaoscougar1
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I hate graphic *****. About how you can answer this? I am not asking for an answer, I want disscussion.

Rekashal

its a little hard to discuss something we know nothing about, like i said, there has only been one trailer. Sure we know the backstory, but thats about it...

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#38 Rekashal
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Well it is more of less talking about what we think Bethesda and Obsidian will do with the game. Throw out ideas about what you think a new version of Fallout should be.

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#39 good_sk8er7
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Well I'm hoping it will be just as good as their other games this gen.

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#40 Sins-of-Mosin
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They really need to do something about the whole weight system. Whats the point of being a looter if you can't carry anything? Reminds me of EQ *shudders*. They need to redo the whole combat system. It simply isn't any fun and VATS gets so boring and just kills the flow. The skill system needs to be redone also to make it feel that it actually affects something. I got 100 in nearly everything but everything feels the same. Fallout 3 was epic in scale but had some serious flaws.
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#41 JS0123456789
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This might be a similar situation to what Obsidian did with KOTOR 2 for Bioware. Then again the folks at Obsidian who worked on Fallout 1 and 2 may make some things about New Vegas more similar to those games. I don't know what that would mean, I haven't played the first two games.

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#42 kozzy1234
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It should be better then Fallout3 imo. Obsidian did a great job with KOTOR2 and especially Neverwinter Nights2 which was amazing.

Also some of the old dudes from Fallout1 and 2 are helping to work on this.. and IMO Fallout1 and 2 are better then Fallout3 in every way except graphics.

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#43 wizdom
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Hard to say since the game isn't out yet, personally I was a huge fan of FO3, sure the story,characters and bugs hurt the game, but overall it still was a excellent game imo.
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#44 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="Hakud0ushi"]If the game get better graphics i'll get it. Didn't liked the graphics on first one.Hakud0ushi

Well of course the first has bad graphics. It was made in 1997.

Thats suppose to be funny? Sorry if i didn't laugh. Fallout 3 is the only famous anyway.

Actually, no. I was being dead serious. And Fallout 1 and 2 are incredibly famous. Fallout 3 wouldn't be so popular if it weren't for Fallout and it's sequel. Also, you underestimate the popularity of Black Isle.

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#45 Wings_008
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Fallout 3 is one of the best games made in the past decade, just saying..... and if you think it's overrated then you have a problem
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#46 craigalan23
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[QUOTE="Wings_008"]Fallout 3 is one of the best games made in the past decade, just saying..... and if you think it's overrated then you have a problem

Just because someone doesn't like a game it doesn't mean they have a "problem." By the way I think it's a great game too bad it's messed up for me right now.. Way to go Bethesda yet another buggy game.
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#47 Dan2x4
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Fallout 3 is one of my favorite games, but hopefully they can fix the clunky shooting mechanics. Either way im looking forward to new vegas