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#1 Roland123_basic
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players have now discovered 2 new glitches that completely break the multiplayer.

Glitch #1 player can become invisible

Glitch #2 player can use the shotgun and shield at the same time

 i played 10 games today in wingman.... ever single game had atleast one player doing one of these glitches. it is the final nail in the coffin for gears 2 multiplayer for me... the worst being invisible players... that alone is just so far beyond unacceptable in a competitive multiplayer game, i just dont even know how epic  got this game out of beta... unreal.

and here i was defending gears 2 about a week ago...

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#2 resevilfan1
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theyl fix it they hav too. the mp is awful especially for non americans such as myself
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#3 gatsbythepig
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You know I loved the first Gears and couldn't stand the multiplayer.

This is bad news for me because I was hoping for better multiplayer this time.

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#4 wallisey
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this is just phenomenal. How bad can they screw this up?

 

So, if you can actually get into a game after a painfully long wait, you get cheated out of the game.

 

Congratulations Epic.

 

You're like a Ronseal - you do exactly what you say on the tin.

 

Epic failure indeed Cliff, Epic failure indeed.

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#5 maxmax1234
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didn't the constantly revved chainsaws had something to do with the online stinking?
Or the constant lagg?

Or the people who spend over a minute treing to piss you off with an 'evil message'.

Oh no wait, that's just funny.

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#6 Danold
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I stopped playing gears because I was sick of the lobby wait and the angry/overly agressive community. CoD is pretty much the only mulitplayer game that stays true to everything I look for in an online experience...
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#8 Roland123_basic
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cliffy B is a douche.... just watch any video interview. the guy thinks he is the second coming of jesus or something. he has the douchiest attitude i have ever seen. he probably things gears 2 is the best game ever made and doesnt understand how anyone could think poorly of it.
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#9 Stevie_Q
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Yeah, I bought Gears, played and beat the campaign, loved it, played a couple rounds of multiplayer, and haven't touched it since.
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#10 Englando_IV
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Gears has a hard learning curve, but crying about it isn't the best way to make yourselves feel better.
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#11 Roland123_basic
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Gears has a hard learning curve, but crying about it isn't the best way to make yourselves feel better.Englando_IV
so you are defending glitching?
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#12 Dawq902
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players have now discovered 2 new glitches that completely break the multiplayer.

Glitch #1 player can become invisible

Glitch #2 player can use the shotgun and shield at the same time

i played 10 games today in wingman.... ever single game had atleast one player doing one of these glitches. it is the final nail in the coffin for gears 2 multiplayer for me... the worst being invisible players... that alone is just so far beyond unacceptable in a competitive multiplayer game, i just dont even know how epic got this game out of beta... unreal.

and here i was defending gears 2 about a week ago...

Roland123_basic
i gave up on Gears2 MP about 2 weeks ago. I'm just casually beating the game on insane at a very slow pace.
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#13 jus2nyce
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Happened to me today, I filed around 5 consecutive complaints of players abuse the shield glitch.
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#14 tomizzo
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I've heard that it takes forever to find a match for everyone if you don't go into the game with friends.
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#15 cocomacoco
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cliffy B is a douche.... just watch any video interview. the guy thinks he is the second coming of jesus or something. he has the douchiest attitude i have ever seen. he probably things gears 2 is the best game ever made and doesnt understand how anyone could think poorly of it.Roland123_basic

I totally agree, to fast to furious to fame, I mean is really a lack of responsibility what they did with Gears 2, broken broken matchmaking, hell!

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#16 sixgears2
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play private with your friends, that way you won't have to deal with cheaters. I love the MP, but only when there is no cheating involved. I have seen the shotgun/shield thing, butI have yet to see the invisible player glitch. If that's true, it really is inexcusable and epic better patch it quick before they lose even more of their base than they already have. In the meantime, though, like I said, just get friends together and do private matches where you know everyone and no one cheats. That's the way to always have fun on Gears2.
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#17 kozzy1234
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You know I loved the first Gears and couldn't stand the multiplayer.

This is bad news for me because I was hoping for better multiplayer this time.

gatsbythepig

Man... I HATED the online versus for Gears1, but i LOVE Gears2 online man!! Horde mode, King of the Hill are awesome with friends!!
I didnt enjoy gears1 much at all online either man, just like you. But i really really am enjoying Gears2 online. IT takes alot more teamwork this time around and its a little more realistic and ALOT more fun!

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I stopped playing gears because I was sick of the lobby wait and the angry/overly agressive community. CoD is pretty much the only mulitplayer game that stays true to everything I look for in an online experience...Danold

I agree with the statement about the overly aggressive community. I'm surprised I haven't seen more threads about this issue. It has gotten to the point that you literally cannot find a game without someone screaming into their mic or talking crazy s*** or just generally being an ass. My friends and I just get into the Party chat (thank God that came out almost alongside Gears 2) so we don't have to hear it. It's weird, I mean you always run into jerks online even though most people are cool, but on Gears it is the exact opposite. The nice people who just want to have fun are in the minority. I recommend either turning your headset all the way down, using private/party chat, or just muting everyone you don't know when you play.

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#19 jackelzx
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thats not kwl

i wanted the game

is it still worth getting and will they fix it soon?

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[QUOTE="Danold"]I stopped playing gears because I was sick of the lobby wait and the angry/overly agressive community. CoD is pretty much the only mulitplayer game that stays true to everything I look for in an online experience...sixgears2

I agree with the statement about the overly aggressive community. I'm surprised I haven't seen more threads about this issue. It has gotten to the point that you literally cannot find a game without someone screaming into their mic or talking crazy s*** or just generally being an ass. My friends and I just get into the Party chat (thank God that came out almost alongside Gears 2) so we don't have to hear it. It's weird, I mean you always run into jerks online even though most people are cool, but on Gears it is the exact opposite. The nice people who just want to have fun are in the minority. I recommend either turning your headset all the way down, using private/party chat, or just muting everyone you don't know when you play.

Party chats for the win!!

I dont think Gears2 has a worse community then COD4 or COD:WAW, imo those are the two worst communitys on live. Every time i go on a game for those two there is either 1. LOUD SINGING 2. RACISM 3. LOUD SCREAMING.

Ive rarely got screamers on gears2 yet, but then again i do use the party option alot.

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players have now discovered 2 new glitches that completely break the multiplayer.

Glitch #1 player can become invisible

Glitch #2 player can use the shotgun and shield at the same time

i played 10 games today in wingman.... ever single game had atleast one player doing one of these glitches. it is the final nail in the coffin for gears 2 multiplayer for me... the worst being invisible players... that alone is just so far beyond unacceptable in a competitive multiplayer game, i just dont even know how epic got this game out of beta... unreal.

and here i was defending gears 2 about a week ago...

Roland123_basic

those glitches are not new... there are others also that you did not list but if you dont know them i wont tell you.. you would probably be better off not knowing them. :P

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#22 sixgears2
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[QUOTE="sixgears2"]

[QUOTE="Danold"]I stopped playing gears because I was sick of the lobby wait and the angry/overly agressive community. CoD is pretty much the only mulitplayer game that stays true to everything I look for in an online experience...kozzy1234

I agree with the statement about the overly aggressive community. I'm surprised I haven't seen more threads about this issue. It has gotten to the point that you literally cannot find a game without someone screaming into their mic or talking crazy s*** or just generally being an ass. My friends and I just get into the Party chat (thank God that came out almost alongside Gears 2) so we don't have to hear it. It's weird, I mean you always run into jerks online even though most people are cool, but on Gears it is the exact opposite. The nice people who just want to have fun are in the minority. I recommend either turning your headset all the way down, using private/party chat, or just muting everyone you don't know when you play.

Party chats for the win!!

I dont think Gears2 has a worse community then COD4 or COD:WAW, imo those are the two worst communitys on live. Every time i go on a game for those two there is either 1. LOUD SINGING 2. RACISM 3. LOUD SCREAMING.

Ive rarely got screamers on gears2 yet, but then again i do use the party option alot.

I agree the communities on those two games are horrible, but seriously just as an experiment play a day of Gears 2 without being in Party chat. You can't die without having to listen to the other team talk smack, and then you are subjected to 30 seconds after the match of the same thing (but now with ALL of them talking trash instead of just the few dead ones). Out of all the glitches and whatever, I think Epic's biggest slip was allowing all the dead players to talk to each other, it just leads to way to much screamin and yellin and just general obnoxiousness. But that's just my opinion.

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#23 Hickamie14
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As I stated in my review of Gears of War 2 (you can find on Gamespot) the multi-player is amzing. The only problemns are ludicrous lag issues and glitches, if Epic can get those fixed then Gears 2 will be unbeatable online. There is one thing I don't understand though, there were lag and glitch issues in the original game, so why couldn't epic fix them? I really don't understand why there was no BETA.
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#24 jbittojr
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yeah the lobby waiting time is way too long

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[QUOTE="Danold"]I stopped playing gears because I was sick of the lobby wait and the angry/overly agressive community. CoD is pretty much the only mulitplayer game that stays true to everything I look for in an online experience...sixgears2

I agree with the statement about the overly aggressive community. I'm surprised I haven't seen more threads about this issue. It has gotten to the point that you literally cannot find a game without someone screaming into their mic or talking crazy s*** or just generally being an ass. My friends and I just get into the Party chat (thank God that came out almost alongside Gears 2) so we don't have to hear it. It's weird, I mean you always run into jerks online even though most people are cool, but on Gears it is the exact opposite. The nice people who just want to have fun are in the minority. I recommend either turning your headset all the way down, using private/party chat, or just muting everyone you don't know when you play.

That was my main reason for not playing Gears 1 online anymore. I was getting really tired of people berating me because I just played casually and didn't get worked up about losing. Then the shotgun/host advantage started, along with the crab walk and sticky melee grenade BS. It was just too much. So far I like Gears 2, I haven't tried the MP yet, still working on the SP, but from what I'm hearing it sounds like the same old crap. I really did like the RSV community though. Same with the COD 2 community. There was a lot of jerks in COD4 honestly.
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#26 Cube_of_MooN
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I don't care as much if people do **** like that in unranked games, but when people glitch in ranked games it really strikes a nerve with me. Hopefully Epic patches that up as fast as possible.
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#27 Gen007
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i feel gears 2 is great a nice upgrade from the first and the online when everything is wroking right is a blast but i will admit most of the time things arent working right but theres no doubt in my mind they are working to patch it right now as for the matchmaking idk about everyone else but the thanksgiving update fixed it for me it dosent take a long time anymore
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Gears has a hard learning curve, but crying about it isn't the best way to make yourselves feel better.Englando_IV
No, something like CSS has a high learning curve. GoW does not. Glitching does not count as a learning curve nor does it mean there's a good player. The reason I stopped playing the original was because of all the wall bouncing and glitch ****
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#29 Sablicious
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FINAL NAIL??? Are you kidding? o_0 ...the game came gift wrapped in its own ready-made coffin! lol XD In actuality, there are so many 'nails' in the Quears of Bore Too's coffin that I imagine the body inside (Cliffy Dweeb...?) must be a veritable voodoo doll! XD

As far as glitchers go, if the game truly were a competitive, tactical third-person shooter as the franchise was touted as being from the get-go but never was, I too would be irked by excessive glitching. But lets be honest, whether it was the shotguns and hosts in the first game or the zillion issues with this iteration, Quears has always been about as far from a 'serious' shooter as it could conceivably be.

So to me, glitching in an already tongue-in-cheek game is fine - more power to those savvy enough to uncover glitches! Shield + any weapon sounds fun. Invisibility sounds hilarious! It's not the glitchers or those who discover them who are at fault anyway, it's Epicfailure's. It's through their apathy and rapacious haste to bank their cheques that they left all the bugs in the final product and [yet] still asked full RRP price for the mess they presented us with. Shame on EPICFAILURE for screwing us.

Go glitchers! Make that lazy development company pay for their apathy!:twisted:

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#30 guppieface
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cliffy B is a douche.... just watch any video interview. the guy thinks he is the second coming of jesus or something. he has the douchiest attitude i have ever seen. he probably things gears 2 is the best game ever made and doesnt understand how anyone could think poorly of it.Roland123_basic

I agree. If you try to post anything bad about gears 2 on epics forums, theyll ban you. i called "cliffy b" a dork and was banned but he is a douche too.

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#31 Sablicious
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I agree. If you try to post anything bad about gears 2 on epics forums, theyll ban you. i called "cliffy b" a dork and was banned but he is a douche too.guppieface

Yep. I too can confirm that. They plug their ears to ANY criticism, let alone insults. I was summarily banned (no warning - nothing) a couple of days after release of the game when my innnocuously composed thread containing a poll asking who would be returning their copy of the game in light of its underwhelming nature -- a poll which showed a heavy correllation towards those that were considering returning the game -- caught the eye of one of the sires fanboy, yes-men mods.

It's pretty obvious to me that if those tossers at Epicfailure aren't even willing to listen to complaints, then the chances of them fixing what's wrong with Quears 2 are about the same as George W. getting re-elected! They've got their money now. Buyer beware is patently their philosophy. All we can do now is return the game if you still can or let the on-line die in the ass (as it surely will under the weight of its own utter broken-ness) in the hope that M$ themselves step in and force them to do something about the state of the game. Or at least kick them in their much-probed backsides enough so as to goad them into making a [second] sequel that is a lot closer to par.

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#32 doubalfa
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hell no I hate glitches ok it will break the gae for me if it happens
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coffin?
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#35 OfficialBed
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i only found some ppl crab walking a few times...that's about it
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#36 feer12
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and the lag the mp is horrible i got this gay glitch were my shotgun shoots down wen i blind fire i cant even blind fire now this game is pissin me off how can a game wit great sp have horrible mp

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#37 vashkey
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Im really not expected a patch, or at least not a patch that fixes the game completly. Just look at Gears 1. Im not getting Gears 3. At least not for sixty bucks.
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#38 ilton45
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cliffy B is a douche.... just watch any video interview. the guy thinks he is the second coming of jesus or something. he has the douchiest attitude i have ever seen. he probably things gears 2 is the best game ever made and doesnt understand how anyone could think poorly of it.Roland123_basic
His job is to get people to buy the game, not hate it... Any game developer will talk about their game like it's the only game to play. Overall I think it's a great game, I don't like the MP, but I do like co-op and Horde.
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#39 WarTorn409
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It is interesting how the party chat had almost the same release date as Gears of War 2.

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#40 Night-Wolf93
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I switched from playing Gears 2 to Halo 3 and Cod4 much faster game plays online....
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I completely gave up on multiplayer.
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#42 Ket87
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You know I loved the first Gears and couldn't stand the multiplayer.

This is bad news for me because I was hoping for better multiplayer this time.

gatsbythepig

Ditto, I had such high hopes but the connection problem and now these glitches that are vastly worse than anything found in the first I havn't touched the game in like two weeks and outside of single player its looking to stay that way unless Epic really goes to town on the next update.

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[QUOTE="Englando_IV"]Gears has a hard learning curve, but crying about it isn't the best way to make yourselves feel better.death1505921
No, something like CSS has a high learning curve. GoW does not. Glitching does not count as a learning curve nor does it mean there's a good player. The reason I stopped playing the original was because of all the wall bouncing and glitch ****

I'm not talking about glitching.
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#44 dlind70
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I didn't bother with the Gears sequel because of glitches like these in the first one; the community didn't help, unfortunately. If this is true, I'm glad I spent money on something like Left 4 Dead instead. I knew competitive multilayer horror was the theme here, but after losing faith in Epic games, I see now that the horror actually refers to the glitched net code and childishness of the gears community.
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#45 dlind70
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Left 4 Dead has dedicated servers and a great community capitalizing on the campy horror theme and versus teamwork of Valve's offering. Plus, shooting the fast zombies never gets old 8) Some people shouldn't mind jumping ship. :)
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#46 soufan123
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Wow.. are you guys serious? Lol, so what that they found 2 new glitches? They'll patch them eventually! There are tons of glitches in all the 360 games out there, especially the multiplayer ones! So give it a break!
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#47 darkserpent213
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I bought Gears 2 when it came out and finished the single player on Co-op. I had some fun with that, but it doesnt make me want to go through it all over again. Then I tried the online and its still the same ole boring game that Gears 1 was online. I think its just the way the characters are controlled, I just dont like it. They just feel too big and clunky and dont move as well as in most other shooters. I ended up trading it back in 2 weeks after owning it. IMO, gears 1 and 2 are the worst online shooters i've played on the 360. I'm still not sure why people drool all over this game. I'll stick to COD and Resistance 2 for now.
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#48 Roland123_basic
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Wow.. are you guys serious? Lol, so what that they found 2 new glitches? They'll patch them eventually! There are tons of glitches in all the 360 games out there, especially the multiplayer ones! So give it a break!soufan123
thats the thing... they wont... look at gears 1, they never patched the glitches.
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#49 ugotplayed64
Member since 2003 • 382 Posts

what the hell is the crab walk? lol

That was my main reason for not playing Gears 1 online anymore. I was getting really tired of people berating me because I just played casually and didn't get worked up about losing. Then the shotgun/host advantage started, along with the crab walk and sticky melee grenade BS. It was just too much. So far I like Gears 2, I haven't tried the MP yet, still working on the SP, but from what I'm hearing it sounds like the same old crap. I really did like the RSV community though. Same with the COD 2 community. There was a lot of jerks in COD4 honestly.

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#50 Omni-Wrath
Member since 2008 • 1970 Posts
You thik that is bad this guy i chainsawed him and he lived and flew up in the sky and killed me. :?