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#1 solidsnake2050
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I was wondering if any 360 gears gamers feel ripped off by epic, as they're giving some huge exclusive extras(such as 5 new chapters)to the pc that we'll never see, personally this has really lowered my opinion of epic and Cliffy B., even microsoft for allowing it.... and please, I want only responses from actual 360gears fans, no pc vs 360/console games or just bashing of the 360.
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#2 jamejame
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They stated that the only reason that they won't see the light of day on 360 is because the PC version is using a new engine (well updated, not new), and so is the new content. Therefore, in order to get the new content on the 360, they'd sorta have to rebuild it again to work with the older engine, and even then, you wouldn't get the full experience out of it.
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#3 jtparsons54
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I loved Gears in the early days, but online is terrible (no matchmaking? no host names in ranked matches? cheating?) and I absolutely feel ripped off by the lack of brumack that I wont be experiencing. GoW2 better step it up BIG TIME if it wants my purchase...
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#4 solidsnake2050
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a new engine for the game doesn't justify it, I was, and may be will be, a loyal fan of Gears and epic. but this is just unfair, why do pc gamers get way more than I did for the same price? just cause I prefer the 360 to the pc?
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#5 gm0n3y
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You can't feel ripped off by EPIC...they do a lot for their fans. What about all those free online maps that they had to negotiate with Microsoft for? Sure we'll miss out on the new levels that are on the PC version, but that's just EPIC's way of rewarding their loyal PC fanbase. They were afterall a huge PC game developer back in they day. PC gamers DID have to wait over a year for their version of Gears. I have no feelings of betrayal or anything like that towards EPIC. They're a great developer.
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#6 DrDazzle
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I was wondering if any 360 gears gamers feel ripped off by epic, as they're giving some huge exclusive extras(such as 5 new chapters)to the pc that we'll never see, personally this has really lowered my opinion of epic and Cliffy B., even microsoft for allowing it.... and please, I want only responses from actual 360gears fans, no pc vs 360/console games or just bashing of the 360.solidsnake2050

You never know, we may see those missions in a future GoW game. As for CliffyB. God, he has always acted like he was the greatest mastermind in gaming history. People seem to pay attention to him because he is "Edgy and cool and doesn't look nerdy."

I own GoW, Collectors Edition in fact, but to be honest, there are some pretty big flaws in the game. Mainly the story. I mean, they never actually explain the story at all. You are expected to know five missions into the game all about Marcus's dad. What the hell. As for the gameplay, while it is good, it isn't incredible. I think they relied WAY too much on the cover system. I think Rainbow Six Vegas is a good example of how to work in a good cover mechanic.

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#8 Bluestorm-Kalas
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^What he said, and don't forget, Cliffy B. was never happy about making the one Gears of War map packs cost money, it could be a little bit of spite to the X-Box 360 department in Microsoft.
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#9 Bluestorm-Kalas
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[QUOTE="solidsnake2050"]I was wondering if any 360 gears gamers feel ripped off by epic, as they're giving some huge exclusive extras(such as 5 new chapters)to the pc that we'll never see, personally this has really lowered my opinion of epic and Cliffy B., even microsoft for allowing it.... and please, I want only responses from actual 360gears fans, no pc vs 360/console games or just bashing of the 360.DrDazzle

You never know, we may see those missions in a future GoW game. As for CliffyB. God, he has always acted like he was the greatest mastermind in gaming history. People seem to pay attention to him because he is "Edgy and cool and doesn't look nerdy."

I own GoW, Collectors Edition in fact, but to be honest, there are some pretty big flaws in the game. Mainly the story. I mean, they never actually explain the story at all. You are expected to know five missions into the game all about Marcus's dad. What the hell. As for the gameplay, while it is good, it isn't incredible. I think they relied WAY too much on the cover system. I think Rainbow Six Vegas is a good example of how to work in a good cover mechanic.

Agreed. Vegas is a lot better than Gears of War, online and single player. Fully customizable characters, better maps, customizable weapons, rappeling, fast ropeing, breaching, smoking, fragging fun. What a good game.
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#10 loudharley
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I dont feel betrayed.They had to give pc gamers some incentive to pick up the the game because a lot of people have already played it on the 360.The 360 version was awesome and my hats off to em for making such a beutiful and fun game.My only problem with gears is the way u get into online games,they really need to adopt some sort of matchmaking like halo3 has.It takes me forever to get into a game and i was really dissapointed that i couldnt play with my friends in ranked matches.Its a team based game so i dont see why i cant play with my team.I know a lot of people claim its cheating to play with friends in ranked team games but why is it not considered cheating in halos team slayer ranked matches.Its not cheating and i hope they change that in gears 2.Ive been really busy with halo 3 latley and will be playing that game for a long time but id love to hear something about gears 2 soon.
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#11 drucom
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a new engine for the game doesn't justify it, I was, and may be will be, a loyal fan of Gears and epic. but this is just unfair, why do pc gamers get way more than I did for the same price? just cause I prefer the 360 to the pc?solidsnake2050
Well, for one, your Xbox costs $400 and it plays the game, but you would need maybe a $1000 dollar or more PC to run it on a PC? Maybe that's it.
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#12 Grim_Wolf88
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I feel ripped off. Basically I got a huge demo while the PC gets the finished product. I'll probably get it for pc but meh.... Way to piss people off.
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#13 noambartouv
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umm a little but they always do this... they release the game the cosoles first then see what people want added and fixed and changed and then they add it to the PC version.... GTA do every time also...
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#14 Deyee
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Your topic is invalid. Perhaps 360 owners should be upset that PS3 owners got Knights of the Nine on Oblivion without having to pay for it.

Honestly, 360 players (including myself) got to play the game a full year earlier than PC gamers.

Should we be upset that Sigma was released on the PS3 years later with a complete butt-load of extra content? No.

If anyone has followed Epic at all you would've seen this coming a YEAR ago.

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#15 lil_ky
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Hell yea that kinda pisses me off i mean i really wanted to fight that brumak and i also hate how unt4 is coming out for ps3 fist idk come on epic wtf
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#16 Nonam3gamer
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You have to understand two things with this situation. One of thing is that Epic has always had their loyalties lie with the Pc and if they're bringing a game over that's already been on a console for a year, they would feel it is their obligation to make sure that the Pc gets the better version if nothing else because they couldn't get it for another year. The other part of it is the marketting advantage it serves. People who already got it for the 360 will mostly likely get it for a Pc (assuming they have a good enough Pc) because it offers another thousand achievement points and all that extra content.
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#17 Trickshot771
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I'm completely done with Gears of War, so I don't really care. Gears of War was great until Christmas of the year it came out.
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#18 younggrease42
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why would I care what PC people experience..I know I had a lot of fun with gears...Me and my buddies played it for 1/2 a school year... The co op was fun as well...The PC getting extra chapters doesnt change anything..Im happy with Epic, they seemed on top of everything and seemed eager to try to modify multiplayer as best they could
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#19 kambion313
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I was wondering if any 360 gears gamers feel ripped off by epic, as they're giving some huge exclusive extras(such as 5 new chapters)to the pc that we'll never see, personally this has really lowered my opinion of epic and Cliffy B., even microsoft for allowing it.... and please, I want only responses from actual 360gears fans, no pc vs 360/console games or just bashing of the 360.solidsnake2050

yes... i feel ripped off, gears was a half of a game, at the most

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#20 kambion313
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They stated that the only reason that they won't see the light of day on 360 is because the PC version is using a new engine (well updated, not new), and so is the new content. Therefore, in order to get the new content on the 360, they'd sorta have to rebuild it again to work with the older engine, and even then, you wouldn't get the full experience out of it.jamejame

of course the engine is updated, but that is to make it compatible with PC, not for any other reason

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#21 Alpha172
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I think it's unfair in my opinion, if they get those bonuses - WHY don't 360 owners get them too? I mean, it's not that hard adding it to the marketplace for download and stuff.
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#22 khalid_b
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epic spit in the face of all 360 gamers...they shud at least release some free downloadable content to soften the blow. it was 360 gamers who made gears what it is - not the PC.
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#23 Warhearted
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I've been playing Gears nonstop for a year and this move felt very undermining to me. From a business perspective I can completely understand why they're doing it. They need something to boost a new version of a previously released game and porting the new stuff would be slow and expensive. Butfrom a company who claims to value fans over business this was quite a slap in the face. The only reason the game is so popular is because of the Xbox 360. Without the revenue gained from the original console a PC version could easily have been scrapped earlier. But it became a huge hit and how does Epic repay the loyalty of millions of fans? By adding quite a load of exclusive material that will never reach the people who payed $60 for the game and $10+ for maps and such. Not to mention all of the people who bought a 360 specifically for Gears of War, who there were quite a few of where I'm from.

It ultimately won't deter me though, I'll still play the game and love it as I have thus far. I only hope GoW2 sets the bar even higher.

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#24 Hitchy9
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meh, i'm happy with gears the way it is
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#25 TheShadowLord07
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they could always remake GOW again. but with the extra 5 chapters. I wouldn't mind buying that.
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#26 khalid_b
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thats the point exactly man...why shud u have to play when u already bought a supposedly full game?!?! in other words they sold a demo at full retail price - is that fair?
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#27 Soothsayerr
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I'm disappointed. Because my 360 can run the game far better then my PC.

I will most likely buy the PC version. It's just one of those annoying things. To me.

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#28 noobkiller205
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Yeh that bugged me too but when you think about how else would they sell the game if its the same thing as the 360.

So you kinda have to look at it from theyre view.

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#29 chrisark
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Cliffy B. Simply put is the man. He knows it, we know it, and everyone else knows it. And I for one believe that if Cliffy does something like this it's for a very good reason.

Anyone stop to think that maybe Cliffy wanted that extra stuff to come to 360 but Microsoft wanted to charge to much for it so he decided instead of making us pay to much for new content he would just say it were never coming?

Maybe the 5 extra chapters are the first 5 chapters for us Gears 2 waiters.

All I know is that this man is a genius. And please, if you say other wise and start shooting off about how arrogant he is, and what an ego he has. Like an Game Developer doesn't. Look at Bungie.

You need ego to make it anywhere, people don't wanna hear.

"Im pretty sure it'll work, I've been working on it for a while now"

They wanna hear

"It's gonna work. And I have no doubt's about it."

So all in all, I don't feel hurt by it one bit. Cause I know in the long run we're gonna get something exclusive for Gears/Gears 2 at some point. It's only a matter of time.

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#30 R0SSMATHIS
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I don't like it....but do I care? NO! Its just a small portion of the game. Story stays the same. So what if you don't get to fight the big monster. If you want to play it that bad, just go buy you a new PC and quit your griping. I own the Gears of War for 360. I do not like the fact that I will not be experiencing these new levels and such, but I don't feel bad enough to post a whole thread on it. You just need to sell your Wii, and get a PC. Either that or play Halo 3. Because as of now, Halo 3 is what everyone is playing. And PC gamers will soon get this with some Bonus Content, then I'm sure we'll hear from you again. So with that being said I hope you find out that its not that serious.

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#31 R0SSMATHIS
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Cliffy B. Simply put is the man. He knows it, we know it, and everyone else knows it. And I for one believe that if Cliffy does something like this it's for a very good reason.

Anyone stop to think that maybe Cliffy wanted that extra stuff to come to 360 but Microsoft wanted to charge to much for it so he decided instead of making us pay to much for new content he would just say it were never coming?

Maybe the 5 extra chapters are the first 5 chapters for us Gears 2 waiters.

All I know is that this man is a genius. And please, if you say other wise and start shooting off about how arrogant he is, and what an ego he has. Like an Game Developer doesn't. Look at Bungie.

You need ego to make it anywhere, people don't wanna hear.

"Im pretty sure it'll work, I've been working on it for a while now"

They wanna hear

"It's gonna work. And I have no doubt's about it."

So all in all, I don't feel hurt by it one bit. Cause I know in the long run we're gonna get something exclusive for Gears/Gears 2 at some point. It's only a matter of time.

chrisark

Yeah, right! Gaming is now becoming politics too. There is no such thing as exclusive content anymore. And whatever exclusive content it may be, it's usually not worth the extra money or hassle to pick it up. I'm the type of person who doesn't care much for a game once the hypse has died. Think about it. While Gears was stil fresh everyone was all excited and stuff. But now, since Halo 3 is out, nobody cares about Gears anymore. The updates and everything Microsoft and Epic did to apparently fix the game, ended up ruining it. You can't play in ranked matches with your friends, like Halo 3. Whoever hosts matches basically has the advantage, unlike Halo 3. Gears of War wasn't good because it was Gears of War. It was good just because it was one of the best games to come out during its time, which was last November. Here we are a year later. So Drop It!

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#32 julianwelton
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a new engine for the game doesn't justify it, I was, and may be will be, a loyal fan of Gears and epic. but this is just unfair, why do pc gamers get way more than I did for the same price? just cause I prefer the 360 to the pc?solidsnake2050

Dude think about it the PC users had to wait almost a whole year to get their version so what if they get a little more content are you really going to bit** about it? Do I wish they released it on 360 back when it came out yeah, but they didn't we just gotta get over it.

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#33 Phazevariance
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FYI - they arent using a new engine, just an updated version of the engine. Unreal Engine 3.01 probably. they can make the 5 chapters for xbox, and probably will after the PC release is stagnant. I found the game to be fun, but choppy at places, like in certain cut scenes.
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#34 NaiKoN9293
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I think it would be cool as DLC. But I still played gears for 100+ hours which made the 60 dollars worthwile
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#35 DonMega187
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Well Gears of War was initially on the Pc the E3 05 demo was played on a pc. But still I feel that 360 owners should get something for buying the game the day it came out. Seriously Its not that hard to make maps I bet you anything they have a whole bunch just sitting there waiting for the most oppourtune time to release them.
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#36 ajefferism
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not really, cause i know this stuff will be on Xbox live for download in about 3-6 months.... that and a Gears of War deluxe edition for 360 with all the new stuff. wait and see...
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#37 DonMega187
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not really, cause i know this stuff will be on Xbox live for download in about 3-6 months.... that and a Gears of War deluxe edition for 360 with all the new stuff. wait and see...ajefferism

Yea sure the deluxe edition MAY have it but seriously what about the peopl that have been playing it since day one. GO BUY ANOTHER COPY F*ck that

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#38 bluem00se
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i was at first but, meh, its just a few extra levels. we had it for like what, almost a year now. pc gamers had to wait, let them have this. plus even if they realeased it for 360 i dont even know if id get it. im pretty much done with gears now. its all about halo 3, until gears 2. haha
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#39 ryanritter
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gears of war is a really fun game but ever since they started updating it it got horrible, (lag increased with annex,no names in rankd matches, etc..) and the game is supposed to be a 360 exclusive but now its going to the pc, which isnt fair that thye get all the new content because for us gears of war players we get nothing but crummy maps for free. until they fix the problems with the game i'll be playing halo 3...

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#40 insane_metalist
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Yes i love the game it's my most fav game i got 1250/1250! But it really pissed me off when i heard about that it's suppose to be an execlusive. It even says on the game box XBOX 360 ONLY. Uhh :(
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#41 Tree06
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It would be nice to play those additional episodes but oh well. I think if it came to DLC it would cost a lot of MS points to dl. Thats my opinion though.
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#42 Dracon17
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Gears of War is by far one of the greatest games for Xbox 360, yes the pc version gets 5 new chapters, but who got the game first, we did. and i'm going to shut up now. thank you for listening.