Forza 2 Crash Myth?

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#1 cybermario
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I saw this on Digg this morning, i was thinking of getting Forza 2 Friday but now im not sure if i want to.

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/1/178846/ShowThread.aspx

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#2 zidan4000
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wow this is frightning i bought my whole xbox360 for this game in the fact i was thinking to buy a ps3 until i saw this game and changed my mind.

but im still buying it there most be a patch

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#3 elmafia
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forza 2 is probably the only game that hasnt crashed on me
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#4 Staryoshi87
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I haven't crashed playing any game, and Forza is one of them :) Sounds like hardware probs to me... and either lying or the unfortunate gathering of lost souls.
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#5 clyde46
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seems to be American batchs,
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#6 cybermario
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gosh i really hope it was just a bad batch of disks.
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#7 zidan4000
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thank god i will buy pal game not ntsc
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#8 Staryoshi87
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thank god i will buy pal game not ntsc zidan4000

You guys are blowing this WAY out of proportion. There isn't some massive software failure going on.

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#9 GXR
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forza 2 is probably the only game that hasnt crashed on meelmafia

Highfive ! Forza 2 non crash buddy !

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#10 cybermario
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ppl are now saying Forza is pushing the 360 much harder, making more heat. this heat bends or disconnects connection between important parts on the motherboard.
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#11 elmafia
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ppl are now saying Forza is pushing the 360 much harder, making more heat. this heat bends or disconnects connection between important parts on the motherboard. cybermario

quess i have a super 360 then :)

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#12 II-FBIsniper-II
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My Forza hasn't crashed on me unless I try to put custom music on...
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#13 clyde46
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by the sounds of things over on the Forza 2 offical boards, i believe its a bug problem that hasnt been squashed yet. didnt they release 4 upyets in one night.
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#14 Staryoshi87
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ppl are now saying Forza is pushing the 360 much harder, making more heat. this heat bends or disconnects connection between important parts on the motherboard. cybermario

Which "people" are these? Company reps of some sort or forum posters? Because 90% of what you hear on forums is BS, sometimes even what I say is bs. They actually toned Forza down to run at 60FPS, so that theoryis out the window. I leave my 360 on for hours at a time playing forza, and like any other game, there are no negative repercussions. The only results of said gameplay is my enjoyment.

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#15 elmafia
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[QUOTE="cybermario"]ppl are now saying Forza is pushing the 360 much harder, making more heat. this heat bends or disconnects connection between important parts on the motherboard. Staryoshi87

Which "people" are these? Company reps of some sort or forum posters? Because 90% of what you hear on forums is BS, sometimes even what I say is bs. They actually toned Forza down to run at 60FPS, so that theoryis out the window. I leave my 360 on for hours at a time playing forza, and like any other game, there are no negative repercussions. The only results of said gameplay is my enjoyment.

i agree, and if it was true then theres no way u could possible complete a endurance race. last time i played i did two endurance races. one with 25 laps and the second 45 i think, with streaming music and no problems whatsoever. i even leftthe360on for 30 min cause i had to get something to eat and still no problems. must be their 360.

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#16 Light_Destroyer
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[QUOTE="cybermario"]ppl are now saying Forza is pushing the 360 much harder, making more heat. this heat bends or disconnects connection between important parts on the motherboard. Staryoshi87

Which "people" are these? Company reps of some sort or forum posters? Because 90% of what you hear on forums is BS, sometimes even what I say is bs. They actually toned Forza down to run at 60FPS, so that theoryis out the window. I leave my 360 on for hours at a time playing forza, and like any other game, there are no negative repercussions. The only results of said gameplay is my enjoyment.

Same here. My Xbox has run forza for at least 5 continuous hours every night since it came out. Most of the time it runs for longer than that, and I haven't had any issues.

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#17 II-FBIsniper-II
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ppl are now saying Forza is pushing the 360 much harder, making more heat. this heat bends or disconnects connection between important parts on the motherboard. cybermario
F2 was toned down to run at 60 FPS, I don't think thats a problem...
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#18 Staryoshi87
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I hire a driver and send him off to his doom on the endurance races, with no ill-effects :) Except maybe his virtual psyche...
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#19 Immortal_Evil
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i must be blessed with a special xbox then
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#20 cybermario
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K so it sounds like i got nothing to worry about. Ill go pick up the game tomorrow.
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#21 RockysCatnipCo
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I've been playing mine all month and haven't had any crashes, well I've crashed my car many times, but no system crashes :P
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#22 zidan4000
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that looks cool thank god its some sort of rumor then im still buying it next week
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#23 EnderSR388
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I've never had Forza 2 crash, ever.
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#24 skinny_man_69
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Ive had forza for a few weeks and had no crashes or freezing or anything actually.
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#25 cybermario
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im just really hoping those ppl on forza forums both on their website and here at GS are just trolling.
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#26 fore_runner
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I've got the MS warranty so I'm not worried about the system at all. Besides, if my system breaks again, I'll get every freebie possible out of Microsoft. 3rd times a charm.
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#27 cybermario
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yeah i wish i didnt have anything to worry about =(
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#28 rdo
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the only time mine has locked up is scrolling thru my garage very quickly. it never locksed up in a race. it's a great game. the problem with oblivion pre patch was much worse, and even that was still worth playing.
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#29 deltaboarder18
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the only time mine has locked up is scrolling thru my garage very quickly. it never locksed up in a race. it's a great game. the problem with oblivion pre patch was much worse, and even that was still worth playing. rdo

Exactly.

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#30 Ruben360
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[QUOTE="elmafia"]forza 2 is probably the only game that hasnt crashed on meGXR

Highfive ! Forza 2 non crash buddy !

Mine didn't crash yet. Still I only got the game today and played 1 hour orso:P

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#31 cybermario
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well if there is more ppl not experiancing crashes, if you could post here, it would be sweet.
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#32 mandrew913
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[QUOTE="elmafia"]forza 2 is probably the only game that hasnt crashed on meGXR

Highfive ! Forza 2 non crash buddy !

Forza 2 crash for me... NOT
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#33 xelloss88
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I haven't had any issues, me and my friend were playing it for about 4 hours last night and no crashes, Im on a launch 360 and hes on a newer one.
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#34 Radiozo
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Yeah thats a big load of BS. Been playing it for almost a month and it has never crashed.
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#35 CorporateHammer
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Well I believe its more of a dvd drive problem than heat. I have a core 360 Hitachi drive freezes randomly and often on Forza 2. Played Tenchu Z for hours no freezing. I just bought another core system ( First 360 Launch console no warranty and I'm not paying $150 for a refurb). It has the Ben Q dvd drive and has not froze at all. I do believe the development consoles have the BQ drive and the disks probibly werent tested in any other drive. DATA RATE!!! and by the way my friends 360 just got a coffin and died playing Forza 2, did not have the BQ!!!
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#36 Radiozo
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Well I believe its more of a dvd drive problem than heat. I have a core 360 Hitachi drive freezes randomly and often on Forza 2. Played Tenchu Z for hours no freezing. I just bought another core system ( First 360 Launch console no warranty and I'm not paying $150 for a refurb). It has the Ben Q dvd drive and has not froze at all. I do believe the development consoles have the BQ drive and the disks probibly werent tested in any other drive. DATA RATE!!! and by the way my friends 360 just got a coffin and died playing Forza 2, did not have the BQ!!!CorporateHammer

Well I have Hitachi and mine works just fine. Bought my 360 in februari 2006

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#37 Gen007
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i dont think forza is the problem i mean i hear no one complaining about it crashing online and its never crashed on me not once. i think that people who are having problems with it are close to the red lights. thats what happens games crash alot
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#38 CorporateHammer
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Interesting. Bought mine in 05 and there are 2 versions of the Hitchi drive.
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#39 cybermario
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i have Hitachi Drive. The date on my 360 says April 06. Im going to be sad if it does screw up my console.
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#40 EnderSR388
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i have Hitachi Drive. The date on my 360 says April 06. Im going to be sad if it does screw up my console. cybermario

I would assume mine has a Hitachi drive as well. It's manufacture date is 12/24/05 and I bought it on 2/10/06. I've never had one single problem with my 360 and I've never had to send it in for repair and I play it everyday for at least 2-4 hours. It's special. :)

Edit: And it also survived the Nyko Intercooler for 2 months! Which did give me the 3 red lights when I first put it on.

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#41 darksusperia
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There is nothing with FORZA 2 or the discs manufactured.

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/189658.aspx

I apologize to those of you who aren't having a good time. It's frustrating when things don't work the way you expect them to. Please keep in mind that the issues in this thread are uncommon when compared to an install base of well over 100,000 users based on what we are seeing on our scoreboards. More importantly, we are concerned about all of our users and will do our best to resolve any issues we are made aware of.

Second, it's been very helpful to get specific information from people trying to analyze and trouble shoot issues. Examples of good information we've been getting include:

·I crash on loading screens only.

·I crash only when using career cars.

·I crash in the middle of the first race every time.

·When I crash I get a DDE.

·When I crash the screen freezes but audio continues to play.

·I don't crash but I start seeing weird graphic anomalies.

All of the above is useful information for us.

Third, I'd like to make some observations and suggestions:

  1. Forza2 won't break your 360. If you have gotten red rings in the past, are crashing in a rapid but inconsistent manner, or are getting more instances of red rings after having played Forza Motorsport 2, I promise we didn't cause that to happen. Please contact customer support at 1-800-4MY-XBOX to get your box fixed, and start playing Forza2 again as quickly as possible.
  2. Those of you getting DDE errors, please follow the recommended trouble shooting steps at: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816785/en-us?sd=xbox. I am reasonably certain that there isn't a replication issue with our media. If there really were a problem with the data image used to burn the retail disks, the number of failures would be in the tens or hundreds of thousands.
  3. Those of you who aren't crashing but are seeing graphics anomalies, particularly 'black holes' in the terrain geometry, are experiencing failures in the texture streaming. This can happen for a variety of reasons. If your DVD player fails to read at its highest speed it slows down to attempt a re-read of the data. If you get continuous bad reads the drive has to consistently run at lower speeds. Again, please follow recommended trouble shooting steps at: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816785/en-us?sd=xbox.
  4. We make every effort to ship world cl@ss titles and I believe our test org and processes are second to none. We have over 100,000 people on our score boards right now.Assuming all of those people have played the game for 4 hours, Forza Motorsport 2 has gotten the equivalent of 200 man years of testing in 3 days.A 50 man test team would have to work for 4 years to the same thing you've done in 3 days.Much of the Forza Motorsport community have specific skills or knowledge that enable them to see things in the game and play the game in ways that we could not have imagined.As you discover things we did not anticipate, please take the time to give us specific and actionable feedback.The more easily we can reproduce your issues, the sooner we can make a fixes.


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EDIT: found word that was picked up and censored. (cl@ss).

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#42 cybermario
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Alright, sounds good to me. I just had to be on the safe side since im having trouble finding my warrnety papers.
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#43 Montavious2004
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This game has yet to leave my disc tray and i bought it the first day. No issues whatsoever. Some people are always going to have problems, and thus make the real issue appear much bigger than it is. Your fine i'm sure

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#44 jameeler91
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[QUOTE="zidan4000"]thank god i will buy pal game not ntsc Staryoshi87

You guys are blowing this WAY out of proportion. There isn't some massive software failure going on.

i know right

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#45 flash69
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been playing it for 2 days straight with no freezes

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#46 paskal1987
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LOL that stuff must be made up by THE PS3 TROLLS it's me and my bro playing the game everyday and we never ever had a crash freeze or any problem with the game....
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#47 insane_metalist
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I got a game the day it came out and its working perfectly it has never froze on me
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#48 Eddie5vs1
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i got a launch copy and i can honestly say that i've never experienced freezing wtih this game.
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#49 stangster
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my friends forza 2 kept freezing on his 360 and a couple weeks later his launch 360 died, but i have forza 2 and have had no problems at all. i think it is all in the persons 360 not forza.
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#50 ElZilcho
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many other games out there freeze and crash for a lot of people, how come we never hear a peepout ofthose? but all of the sudden forza is crashing and burningeverybody's 360s, what a coincidence ... right.

i play it for like 2 hours everyday and never have a problem of any sort, maybe these people having problems with forza never take breaks, did it ocurr to anyone to take a break from their games every hour or so? the system is working hard enough as it is, i dont know maybe playing a game for like 8 hours straight will eventually have a consequence of some sort, i imagine it would.

so please if you're having trouble with the game, take a break, go outside, visit a friend, go to the supermarket, go to the gym, do something other than long marathons of playing forza that'll roast your 360, enough said, good luck everyone.