Forza 3? I just downloaded it and I think pc sims like GTR Evolution are...

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#1 JigglyWiggly_
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So I downloaded the demo, and the game to my surprise looks kind of ugly. I mean I shouldn't be comparing to GRID for the pc, but GRID on the console looks much better, same for Dirt 2.

Now the driving, I drove with and without a steering wheel. The controls felt better on the steering wheel, but on the controller they felt muddy, like hard to explain but slow. Also with no driver assists, the game is far far very unrealistic, it feels too easy. I played my first time with no driver assists and the AI on medium, I got 1st. Then ai on hard, I got 3rd. I should be spinning out and stuff.

Here is a video of me playing GTR Evolution, which is a pc sim. What looks more realistic? What do you guys think?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKr9i4KdlMY

(The first lap is warming up the tires, the 2nd one is the real lap)

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#2 DranzarTypeF
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ugly ? how ? one of the best looking sims I've ever seen...

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#3 JigglyWiggly_
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ugly ? how ? one of the best looking sims I've ever seen...

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But it was hyped to look a lot better, GRID and Dirt 2, while not sims look a lot better.
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#4 DranzarTypeF
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[QUOTE="DranzarTypeF"]

ugly ? how ? one of the best looking sims I've ever seen...

JigglyWiggly_

But it was hyped to look a lot better, GRID and Dirt 2, while not sims look a lot better.

I'll agree that Dirt 2 looks alot better...GRID overall the game isn't up to par so it doesn't matter, Dirt 2 is a sim by the way.

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#5 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="DranzarTypeF"]

ugly ? how ? one of the best looking sims I've ever seen...

DranzarTypeF

But it was hyped to look a lot better, GRID and Dirt 2, while not sims look a lot better.

I'll agree that Dirt 2 looks alot better...GRID overall the game isn't up to par so it doesn't matter, Dirt 2 is a sim by the way.

Dirt 2 is no sim... by any means.

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#6 DranzarTypeF
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[QUOTE="DranzarTypeF"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] But it was hyped to look a lot better, GRID and Dirt 2, while not sims look a lot better.JigglyWiggly_

I'll agree that Dirt 2 looks alot better...GRID overall the game isn't up to par so it doesn't matter, Dirt 2 is a sim by the way.

Dirt 2 is no sim... by any means.

Well doesn't have anti-break locks, cosmetic damage etc. and all the other things Forza has but it does do a good job of simulating dirt track races, i dunno I guess you're right.

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I should be spinning out and stuff.

JigglyWiggly_

Why should you be spinning out?

Have you never played a racing game before?

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#8 Kenbo325
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You think the graphics are ugly? Your standards must be pretty high then.
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#9 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

I should be spinning out and stuff.

Jaysonguy

Why should you be spinning out?

Have you never played a racing game before?

Sir, have you seen that video I sent? Messing up slightly on a turn and you go spinning out. Forza 3 you can fool around and you won't spin out.
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

I should be spinning out and stuff.

JigglyWiggly_

Why should you be spinning out?

Have you never played a racing game before?

Sir, have you seen that video I sent? Messing up slightly on a turn and you go spinning out. Forza 3 you can fool around and you won't spin out.

Turn off the assists Einstein..

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I think it's good.

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#12 StudySession
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The cars feel a a lot like forza 2 and the graphics are a clear improvement over forza 2. What more were you expecting?

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#13 bluem00se
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Looks like Forza 2 with a more elegant menu system and slightly improved textures. I wasn't expecting much more than that anyways. The graphical powerhouse is gonna be GT5, but Forza 3 will tide me over until then. I love the in-car view though! That was my most wanted feature in Forza 2, good to see they pulled it off on Forza 3
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#14 1uP_OnYou
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Yada-yada. Im still buying and going to enjoy. There's always one..

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#15 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Why should you be spinning out?

Have you never played a racing game before?

DranzarTypeF

Sir, have you seen that video I sent? Messing up slightly on a turn and you go spinning out. Forza 3 you can fool around and you won't spin out.

Turn off the assists Einstein..

They were, game is easy either way. I love how you assume such things, Einstein.

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#16 JigglyWiggly_
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The cars feel a a lot like forza 2 and the graphics are a clear improvement over forza 2. What more were you expecting?

StudySession

Dirt 2 esque graphics + iRacing (subscription based simulator on the pc where you pay for tracks etc). The physics are nothing like iRacing's, or any of the popular pc sims for that matter, GTR Evolution, GTR2, live for speed, rFactor. I guess I was expecting too much for a console sim.

This is iRacing EDIT: Woops wrong link(fixed) :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbAC-PV3lZI

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#17 podliver
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Geez someone is a Forza hater...
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#18 JigglyWiggly_
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Geez someone is a Forza hater...podliver
No, I'm not a hater, I don't expect GT5 to be any better. I have never played a forza game, or Grand Turismo game for that matter, I just expected more. I really thought it would be more realistic and more fun than games like GTR Evolution and iRacing :(

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[QUOTE="DranzarTypeF"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] Sir, have you seen that video I sent? Messing up slightly on a turn and you go spinning out. Forza 3 you can fool around and you won't spin out.JigglyWiggly_

Turn off the assists Einstein..

They were, game is easy either way. I love how you assume such things, Einstein.


I think we were playing two different demos. I missed a shift coming off a corner got jacked up, spun my tires and got loose.

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[QUOTE="podliver"]Geez someone is a Forza hater...JigglyWiggly_

No, I'm not a hater, I don't expect GT5 to be any better. I have never played a forza game, or Grand Turismo game for that matter, I just expected more. I really thought it would be more realistic and more fun than games like GTR Evolution and iRacing :(

therein lies the problem, you played a Demo for a console sim, expecting it to be just as good as a full finished PC sim.
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#21 skyyfox1
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i will try the forza 3 demo. i already want to buy it and if it is as good as i think it is, i will buy it.

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#22 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="podliver"]Geez someone is a Forza hater...Chogyam

No, I'm not a hater, I don't expect GT5 to be any better. I have never played a forza game, or Grand Turismo game for that matter, I just expected more. I really thought it would be more realistic and more fun than games like GTR Evolution and iRacing :(

therein lies the problem, you played a Demo for a console sim, expecting it to be just as good as a full finished PC sim.

It could be that they picked a bad track, but you can get a feel for the cars. Just go in gtr evolution, that's the first race in the game I made a video of.
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#23 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="DranzarTypeF"] Turn off the assists Einstein..

Ellimem

They were, game is easy either way. I love how you assume such things, Einstein.


I think we were playing two different demos. I missed a shift coming off a corner got jacked up, spun my tires and got loose.

You can miss shifts, and your car will wabble, but it's not that significant and yes your rear tires can lock up, but I think you guys should try a demo of GTR2, or GTR Evolution on steam, really fun. Then compare them, cause I've played both :D Not saying Forza 3 is bad from the impressions I got from the demo, it just doesn't feel as good as it was made up to be.

Because in the GTR Evolution, you can most certainly feel the car better, as in, knowing when something is going to go bad, I guess feeling for the road is what I am looking for. Though yeah it is a demo, but demos to retail shouldn't be a huge difference.

Seriously though guys, try the demo of GTR Evolution on steam(I think there is one, if not try GTR 2 demo, or Race 07, or rFactor demo), and compare them. I am sure you guys will see my side of the argument :D

I mean just look at rFactorhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr5zu4bE3jw

I honestly thought Forza 3 was going to compete with that, but it just doesn't.

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#24 Chogyam
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[QUOTE="Ellimem"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] They were, game is easy either way. I love how you assume such things, Einstein.

JigglyWiggly_


I think we were playing two different demos. I missed a shift coming off a corner got jacked up, spun my tires and got loose.

You can miss shifts, and your car will wabble, but it's not that significant and yes your rear tires can lock up, but I think you guys should try a demo of GTR2, or GTR Evolution on steam, really fun. Then compare them, cause I've played both :D Not saying Forza 3 is bad from the impressions I got from the demo, it just doesn't feel as good as it was made up to be.

Because in the GTR Evolution, you can most certainly feel the car better, as in, knowing when something is going to go bad, I guess feeling for the road is what I am looking for. Though yeah it is a demo, but demos to retail shouldn't be a huge difference.

Seriously though guys, try the demo of GTR Evolution on steam(I think there is one, if not try GTR 2 demo, or Race 07, or rFactor demo), and compare them. I am sure you guys will see my side of the argument :D

I mean just look at rFactorhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr5zu4bE3jw

i'll just reiterate my previous statement, thats all you are doing. Any fan of racing sims know, to find the greatest, you head to the pc. I have GTR2 and still log countless hours on NR:2003. But seriously, for consoles, GT and Forza are top notch, although i'd like to see some of the **** who think they are all hot **** come take a lap (or 70) around Sears point in NR:2003.

also ive been pondering signing up to iracing, but that Rfactor looks pretty sweet. Being a fellow PC sim racer, you cant expect the same from consoles, i learned that quick and early on. What they lack in full sim, they make up for in their own ways.