Gamerpoints... The Choice We Were Never Given.

I believe Gamerpoints is a marketing gimmick that improves the sales of games. People are buying games (They wouldn't ordinarily buy) for the gamer points. Obviously it worked which I suppose is great for companies. You can earn up to 300 or 400 points for simply beating the game on the single player campaign, an extra hundred or so for doing it on the harder difficulty levels. Then there's the multiplayer achievements which you can't unlock in Player Matches which effectively forces us to be competitive, when personally I prefer player matches.

Then, what I've also noticed is, many people don't actually achieve the points...they get a few friends together and take shots killing one another to unlock it...how is that achieving them?

Truthfully I don't like the fact that Microsoft forced gamerpoints upon us. They should have given us a choice whether to turn them on or off have them displayed for the world to see.

What do you guys think?

Im sorry but i think your points are a bunch of bologna, how do gamerpoints affect you at all if you dont like it? its just a number, if you take gamerscore/ achievements seriously, then good for you. If you dont like them, ignore it.

I dont think that the 'forced' anything onto us.

As long as you earn your points legitamately, you should be proud when you unlocked a hard achievement that you truly own. If you don't like the concept of achievement points, then just play the game and ignore the achievements that you unlock.

I believe achievement points add a lot of replay value to a game!

This topic is stupid I think gamerpoints are great it gives more replayability to games and shows ppl what games you have completed. You need to stop chatting bull$hit lets see you do anything better and if you dont like it then just ignore it, its not hard and if you don't wanna play ranked matchs then just play player matches from wat your saying you dont care about gamerpoints so it dont concern you does it. BlessDestructiViper

The problem that I have with gamerscores is that people wrroy too much about them. Just look at the 360 forum board. Every week we get a handful of "no can beat my gamerscore" or "what games have easy achievements" threads. I agreethatthis was probably done in some part as a marketing ploy toget people to buy or rent more games.

The other problem I have is thatpeople seem to think that those with low gamerscores must just suck at games the games. That is not always the case. The truth is that nto everyone has the time to sit around playing games all the time. Take a game like Oblivion. I would love to sit down and be able to try and blow through the game, but I can't. Not becaused I suck at it, but because work and familyprevent me from having a lot of time the spend gaming.

Therewill always be a debate about gamerscore and achievements andpeople will always be split between those who need to geteveryGeOW achievement and those who say yeah it'd be great if I could,b ut I would rather just play the game.

I think gamerscore is fun, it reminds me of old school arcades, trying to beat the top score, or trying to get the maximum points, not to mention it gives the game goals that wouldnt be there otherwise, extending the life of the game.

Gamerscore is here to stay.

Well I don't have a beef with them. Before gamerpoints were established I'm sure all of us have bragged some point in time about our accomplishments. Be it earning the highscore in one game, getting to a secret area, special weapon, etc etc. Now achievement points just give you that opportunity to showcase your accomplishments. It's a great way to keep track of your games and to what percentage you've dominated them. You can compare and contrast with other players.

The only things I don't like about them are they do nothing more. You would think after accomplishing so much Microsoft would award us in some way. I mean, sure, they have had a few contests with Old Spice where if you earn so much in a short amount of time you have the possibility of winning certain prizes. But that's it. It'd be nice if you could earn so many gamerscore points and then possibly use them in a manner to purchase MS points to purchase more content. Sure would be nice.

That and I hate how every 12 year old brags about having points within the 12,000 range or higher and put you down because you only play so much or own so many games. I got news for you junior, some of us have lives, work jobs, pay bills,go to school, have other obligations and responsibilities. Not all of us have mommies and daddies that can easily throw away 60 bucks everyother week or month to buy a new game. Hell, some of us don't have the money to. So my only beef with them is some people take them a bit too serious. But I guess the compewtition and bragging rights come with the territory.

i totally agree with you, but I'm alittle more optimistic. Gamerpoints ARE a marketing Gimmick I do realize that but its HELPED me branch out and play games I might not normally have played and on several ocassions I've found a gem that I may never have touched had it been not for a gamer score craving. I also don't let it control me, I still refuse to play sports titles and movie games (depending on what movie it was). nor do I buy games all willy nilly, I rent mostly leaving longer games like obilivion and the like for purchase.

BTW you can turn it off. just enter a cheat code but don't turn on the cheat, you'll never see an achievement notice pop up for that game again.

I believe Gamerpoints is a marketing gimmick that improves the sales of games. People are buying games (They wouldn't ordinarily buy) for the gamer points. Obviously it worked which I suppose is great for companies. You can earn up to 300 or 400 points for simply beating the game on the single player campaign, an extra hundred or so for doing it on the harder difficulty levels. Then there's the multiplayer achievements which you can't unlock in Player Matches which effectively forces us to be competitive, when personally I prefer player matches.

Then, what I've also noticed is, many people don't actually achieve the points...they get a few friends together and take shots killing one another to unlock it...how is that achieving them?

Truthfully I don't like the fact that Microsoft forced gamerpoints upon us. They should have given us a choice whether to turn them on or off have them displayed for the world to see.

What do you guys think?

scriptwrite

umm you dont have to get them. you dont have to worry about them, now i hate cheating of every nature, wether it be modding, lag-cheating, or the real A-Holes of cheating (spawnkillers), i think strategy guides shouldnt be sold, because they too are cheating.

i take my gamerscore seriously, i dont cheat to get mine, and i dont cheat in matches just to claim im good, either you are good, or not, either you are good then or you try harder, but cheating is BS, thats why i got out of pc gamming, way too many freaking cheaters.

Remember, they did something called "Xbox Rewards" or something like that... That actually made gamerpoints a little useful and got it also got me Fusion Frenzy 2.76ers

true that, and they also stated there will be more challenges like that as well.

people don't buy games for gamerpoints, they rent them

I will never play a game just for points. Every game I have played, is a game I wanted to play. For the games I play, I do try to get all achievements for because it really helps with replay value. I do agree that the system is sort of broken because people are buying junk games just for easy points. I like to get points but like I said, only in games I WANT to play.-ZeRoHouR-

thats how i feel like some games i may only have like 20 gamerscore from. not because the game is too hard, please come on ive been gamming since pong. but because i just flat out didnt like the game. i have viva pinata on the way from gameznflix. not because of the achievements but because i heard it was a good relaxing game to play for all ages, and it got me curious. feel me?

i think its a great way to play with your friends, its makes it more fun...

Remember, they did something called "Xbox Rewards" or something like that... That actually made gamerpoints a little useful and got it also got me Fusion Frenzy 2.76ers

Too bad they couldn't give us something that's worth taking the time for.

I believe Gamerpoints is a marketing gimmick that improves the sales of games. People are buying games (They wouldn't ordinarily buy) for the gamer points. Obviously it worked which I suppose is great for companies. You can earn up to 300 or 400 points for simply beating the game on the single player campaign, an extra hundred or so for doing it on the harder difficulty levels. Then there's the multiplayer achievements which you can't unlock in Player Matches which effectively forces us to be competitive, when personally I prefer player matches.

Then, what I've also noticed is, many people don't actually achieve the points...they get a few friends together and take shots killing one another to unlock it...how is that achieving them?

Truthfully I don't like the fact that Microsoft forced gamerpoints upon us. They should have given us a choice whether to turn them on or off have them displayed for the world to see.

What do you guys think?

scriptwrite

Don't we have a right to do whatever the hell we want with our games and achievements without people complaining about how dumb we are since they have a low gamerscore?BigGhostrider12

lmao true that, i feel ya, people hate on me for my gamerscore, when i play a bunch of games. i say to hell with them. its half envy, and half ignorance.

people don't buy games for gamerpoints, they rent them

omus101

[QUOTE="BigGhostrider12"]Don't we have a right to do whatever the hell we want with our games and achievements without people complaining about how dumb we are since they have a low gamerscore?Lach0121

lmao true that, i feel ya, people hate on me for my gamerscore, when i play a bunch of games. i say to hell with them. its half envy, and half ignorance.

Yeah i know! They look at my gamercard and assume i play all those games for gamerscore! I just like to rent a bunch of games so i can get the most out of my 360! Is that so wrong to wanna play a wide library of genres/games?

I believe Gamerpoints is a marketing gimmick that improves the sales of games. People are buying games (They wouldn't ordinarily buy) for the gamer points. Obviously it worked which I suppose is great for companies. You can earn up to 300 or 400 points for simply beating the game on the single player campaign, an extra hundred or so for doing it on the harder difficulty levels. Then there's the multiplayer achievements which you can't unlock in Player Matches which effectively forces us to be competitive, when personally I prefer player matches.

Then, what I've also noticed is, many people don't actually achieve the points...they get a few friends together and take shots killing one another to unlock it...how is that achieving them?

Truthfully I don't like the fact that Microsoft forced gamerpoints upon us. They should have given us a choice whether to turn them on or off have them displayed for the world to see.

What do you guys think?

scriptwrite

I think this is a rediculously funny post, are you on crack?

Seriously, your right there are loosers who "Cheat" or do things so that they can just get achievements. Achievements provide value to a game, and give you reason to do things. Look at GoW, the Seriously achievement has really legthened the life of the game. Now you have the new achievements in this game that you can get in player match which everyone is cheating to get and not getting legitely. I don't base achievement on gamerscore,I base it on what achievements you acctually have.