Reviewed 9.0 by Gamespot.
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He pointed out there wasn't anything wrong with the game and hardly worth deducting any points... "A few blemishes prove that this planned trilogy still has potential for growth, but they barely diminish the game's overall impact." - barely, as in one full point.
The only two negatives: 1) scanning mini-game got boring... ok. I read that as, "more exploration than I wanted to do. Should have been a shorter game unless they were going to add in some more variety." 2) some glitches and bugs; #2 didn't hurt the other 10/10 game in recent memory and he doesn't explain why it is any worse in this one... But who really cares. These scores rarely mean much in the level of enjoyment I get out of games. My CE copy is already on the delivery truck to my house so I'm looking forward to playing it and enjoying it for myself.raahsnavj
i just read the review and i'm currently wondering the exact same thing. The content of the review leans more towards a 9.5 than a 9, oh well. As for his #2 complaint, tons of great games were launched with bigs or glitches yet still recieved a 10? I don't understand.
Either way it doesn't really matter...i'm buying the game and im sure ill be blown away.
Reviewer is KVO, no 9.5 for 360 :PI was sure it was a dead cert for a 9.5, oh well the critic score will be around 9.4/9.5 thats what I pay attnetion too and thats one hell of a score
gillri
I don't get how a game like this doesn't get a perfect 10. Ok it has a few minor bugs, none that i've run into so far, but this is for me a once in a decade sort of game. First of all, the innovation in carrying over your character and having the choices you made in the 1st game affect little story lines just give the game such an authenticity that cant be found anywhere else. And 1 hour in *SPOILER ALERT!!!................... when joker appears and you get the normandy back.............
I got chills down my spine. This is such an epic game and i cant put it down, been playing for 7 hours now it's that good.
well I dont know how todays standars are managed, btu seemes like the game ratings are from 8 to 10, anything lower is considered garbage, and most of the time the worst games get at least a 6doubalfaWhich is stupid. Game sites need to start using the full 1-10 range.
[QUOTE="doubalfa"]well I dont know how todays standars are managed, btu seemes like the game ratings are from 8 to 10, anything lower is considered garbage, and most of the time the worst games get at least a 6SaltyMeatballsWhich is stupid. Game sites need to start using the full 1-10 range. Which is exactly what we do. So far this year, I have given out two 4.0's, a 6.5, and a 9! I sincerely hope no thinking person approaches a sub-8 score at GameSpot thinking that the game is garbage, because if you do, you are missing out on some games you'll probably enjoy. (A 7 on GameSpot means, by definition, "good."
A 9 is cause for celebration--the indicator of a special game that will thrill almost anyone that plays it. That is exactly what Mass Effect 2 is. This is a superb game that had room for improvement. If I didn't acknowledge its flaws, I wouldn't be a critic. I have to be conscious of what the genre and platform are capable of. Dragon Age and Fallout 3, along with an entire decade of incredible RPGs before them, are more complex and longer-lasting experiences than Mass Effect 2, for example. Mass Effect 2 is relatively short by RPG standards, and its character progression isn't nearly on par with a game like Dragon Age.
In other words, Mass Effect 2 is an awesome game, that like other awesome games, still had possibilities for further growth. But spending so much time writing more about Mass Effect 2 seems rather silly, considering I've already written close to 2400 words already in the review! I remember as a GS reader when a game got an 8; that was considered a triumph, because it meant a game was great. A 9 was a real achievement, something to make you giddy. And so it is now. If you are looking at a "9" and complaining that it wasn't higher, you may want to rethink your approach. Like other 9's we have given in our history, Mass Effect 2 is a superb game that's easy to fall in love with. There are other publications that hand out 9s so often that they've sucked out the "special" that such a score should really mean. A 9 here means something more.
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Which is stupid. Game sites need to start using the full 1-10 range. Which is exactly what we do. So far this year, I have given out two 4.0's, a 6.5, and a 9! I sincerely hope no thinking person approaches a sub-8 score at GameSpot thinking that the game is garbage, because if you do, you are missing out on some games you'll probably enjoy. (A 7 on GameSpot means, by definition, "good."As for Mass Effect 2, I made this point elsewhere, and have made it dozens of times over the years, but it always seems to be worth repeating to those that don't know how this site's standards work (you can click the help link at the top of the page for more information on our reviews scale) or gripe that a game they enjoy didn't get an eleventy-bajillionty. That is this: A 9 on GameSpot, as has always been the case, indicates a special and extraordinary game. The scoring process isn't like grading a school paper; we don't start at a 10 and start subtracting points. Can you imagine such a terrible approach to critical evaluation?[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="doubalfa"]well I dont know how todays standars are managed, btu seemes like the game ratings are from 8 to 10, anything lower is considered garbage, and most of the time the worst games get at least a 6Kevin-V
A 9 is cause for celebration--the indicator of a special game that will thrill almost anyone that plays it. That is exactly what Mass Effect 2 is. This is a superb game that had room for improvement. If I didn't acknowledge its flaws, I wouldn't be a critic. I have to be conscious of what the genre and platform are capable of. Dragon Age and Fallout 3, along with an entire decade of incredible RPGs before them, are more complex and longer-lasting experiences than Mass Effect 2, for example. Mass Effect 2 is relatively short by RPG standards, and its character progression isn't nearly on par with a game like Dragon Age.In other words, Mass Effect 2 is an awesome game, that like other awesome games, still had possibilities for further growth. But spending so much time writing more about Mass Effect 2 seems rather silly, considering I've already written close to 2400 words already in the review! I remember as a GS reader when a game got an 8; that was considered a triumph, because it meant a game was great. A 9 was a real achievement, something to make you giddy. And so it is now. If you are looking at a "9" and complaining that it wasn't higher, you may want to rethink your approach. Like other 9's we have given in our history, Mass Effect 2 is a superb game that's easy to fall in love with. There are other publications that hand out 9s so often that they've sucked out the "special" that such a score should really mean. A 9 here means something more.Also: Hi!
So what made it a 9 and not a 10? What made it a 9 and not an 8? From your review I can't tell. And you clarification here you pointed out a 'Superb game that had room for improvement'. Does that mean GTA 4 had no room for improvement? is that what makes a 10? And a good game (or 8 ) what makes it less than a 9? I'm not complaining about the review, more about the number system and the grading in general. You have so many numbers and no measurable criteria to any of them... well, at least that is what it appears to the end user (or at least me). You have attached some simple words to them to try and sort that out for us but I see no reason a 9.5 exists if that is also 'Superb'. So why bother with the 9? why bother with the 8? Why not just use the terms? Then at least we only have 10 values. It is rare that games are going to really release with a 1-4 score... maybe some will that you review... but why not just call those one term and group them because they are so hard to come by and give more granularity in the scores (or terms) that seem to be a-dime a dozen these days (7.5+)... to do so would give back the 1-10 scale and appear less a 5-10 scale. I have to agree with you that other places hand out so many 9's they have sucked the special out of it. Personally though I think it is worse than that. I think there have been so many 7.5+ (here and elsewhere) that the top half of the scale has the whole 'special' sucked out of it, and having no objectionable criteria to rank against what is the point of the metric at all?I'm very surprised. I thought it was going to score a 9.5 for sure. Especially since just about every other web site gave it a very high score.Reviewed 9.0 by Gamespot.
simo98088
In my personal opinion, a 9.0 is a slap in the face. Mass Effect 2 is amazing in every aspect. So much heart, sweat, and tears were put in this game and it shows. A score of 9.0 is ridiculous to say the least, which is an understatement. I score it 9.6 minimum. Brilliant game.Elian2530What does .6 give the game? I find it hilarious to for people to say a game is worth .5 or .6 points more 'clearly!'... what is the difference between a those .6 points? Why not call it "superb" and let that mean 9.9 if you would like it to? From what I could tell Kevin was saying is that is what the 9 really means anyhow is Superb... why bother with the 9 or 9.5 (or 9.6 in this case)?
[QUOTE="Hickamie14"][QUOTE="simo98088"]I'm very surprised. I thought it was going to score a 9.5 for sure. Especially since just about every other web site gave it a very high score. On GS, that is exactly what 9.0 is on GameSpot: A very high score. We don't adhere to the scales used by other publications. We adhere to our own.Reviewed 9.0 by Gamespot.
Elian2530
So what made it a 9 and not a 10? What made it a 9 and not an 8? From your review I can't tell. And you clarification here you pointed out a 'Superb game that had room for improvement'. Does that mean GTA 4 had no room for improvement? is that what makes a 10? And a good game (or 8 ) what makes it less than a 9? raahsnavjThis is the kind of metaphysical offering that's hard to argue in an Internet forum! I think we made an incredibly good case for GTA4 being a 10, but even if you don't agree with that assessment, I will say this: We have given out only six 10s in our entire history. Clearly, we don't go around handing out such high scores without being certain of our evaluation. But GTA4 isn't Mass Effect 2. I reviewed Mass Effect 2 based on its own merits, not based on those of GTA.
In my personal opinion, a 9.0 is a slap in the face. Mass Effect 2 is amazing in every aspect. So much heart, sweat, and tears were put in this game and it shows. A score of 9.0 is ridiculous to say the least, which is an understatement. I score it 9.6 minimum. Brilliant game.Elian2530Yes. Calling a game "superb" is the equivalent of injuring you. This seems a sensible approach. How dare I call Mass Effect 2 superb and give it a score that makes it a likely Game of the Year candidate! What was I thinking???? ;)
In my personal opinion, a 9.0 is a slap in the face. Mass Effect 2 is amazing in every aspect. So much heart, sweat, and tears were put in this game and it shows. A score of 9.0 is ridiculous to say the least, which is an understatement. I score it 9.6 minimum. Brilliant game.Elian2530
Note to self: Kevin wants 3 discs for ME3 ;-) I'll pass that onto the team.In other words, Mass Effect 2 is an awesome game, that like other awesome games, still had possibilities for further growth
Kevin-V
man im about an hour into the game so far and i have to say im blown away it surpasses ME1 in every aspect it literally blows it out the water. They actually managed to make the graphics look even better and the combat is silky smooth unlike the first. The story so far is suerb and the delivery is amazing. To write just how much better everything is would take to long. Id say so far this game deserves a 9.5 and is going down in my book as one the greatest games of all time.
[QUOTE="Elian2530"]In my personal opinion, a 9.0 is a slap in the face. Mass Effect 2 is amazing in every aspect. So much heart, sweat, and tears were put in this game and it shows. A score of 9.0 is ridiculous to say the least, which is an understatement. I score it 9.6 minimum. Brilliant game.Darkslayer16
If you want the truth, then play the game. Nobody at Gamespot can make you decide what a good game is and what is not. I think handing a 10 over to GTA: IV shows an incredible lack of credibility, but that's MY opinion and it doesn't matter too much compared to yours or theirs for that matter.
I don't have complaints on the review but on how they review it. On other sites like IGN and GT, they show you the scores for Story, Graphics, Gameplay and so on and it averages out the overall score. Here, we have no idea how they choose the number for the games they reviewed. It's like they can praise the heck out of a game but gives it an 8 or lower, or do the reverse and talk more negative than positive but gives it a 10. Who knows, all I know is ME2 got great reviews. Awesome GS score and review.
Which is stupid. Game sites need to start using the full 1-10 range. Which is exactly what we do. So far this year, I have given out two 4.0's, a 6.5, and a 9! I sincerely hope no thinking person approaches a sub-8 score at GameSpot thinking that the game is garbage, because if you do, you are missing out on some games you'll probably enjoy. (A 7 on GameSpot means, by definition, "good."[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="doubalfa"]well I dont know how todays standars are managed, btu seemes like the game ratings are from 8 to 10, anything lower is considered garbage, and most of the time the worst games get at least a 6Kevin-V
A 9 is cause for celebration--the indicator of a special game that will thrill almost anyone that plays it. That is exactly what Mass Effect 2 is. This is a superb game that had room for improvement. If I didn't acknowledge its flaws, I wouldn't be a critic. I have to be conscious of what the genre and platform are capable of. Dragon Age and Fallout 3, along with an entire decade of incredible RPGs before them, are more complex and longer-lasting experiences than Mass Effect 2, for example. Mass Effect 2 is relatively short by RPG standards, and its character progression isn't nearly on par with a game like Dragon Age.
In other words, Mass Effect 2 is an awesome game, that like other awesome games, still had possibilities for further growth. But spending so much time writing more about Mass Effect 2 seems rather silly, considering I've already written close to 2400 words already in the review! I remember as a GS reader when a game got an 8; that was considered a triumph, because it meant a game was great. A 9 was a real achievement, something to make you giddy. And so it is now. If you are looking at a "9" and complaining that it wasn't higher, you may want to rethink your approach. Like other 9's we have given in our history, Mass Effect 2 is a superb game that's easy to fall in love with. There are other publications that hand out 9s so often that they've sucked out the "special" that such a score should really mean. A 9 here means something more.
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Well said, well said. And also; Hello!!!! :)
they use to, on every writte review there were catagories and the number was the average of those catagories. Then for some reason (to this day i cannot figure out why) they stopped doing it and started using only 0.5 increments. To be honest, i hate itI don't have complaints on the review but on how they review it. On other sites like IGN and GT, they show you the scores for Story, Graphics, Gameplay and so on and it averages out the overall score. Here, we have no idea how they choose the number for the games they reviewed. It's like they can praise the heck out of a game but gives it an 8 or lower, or do the reverse and talk more negative than positive but gives it a 10. Who knows, all I know is ME2 got great reviews. Awesome GS score and review.
gago-gago
You guys are whining for nothing... I can understand the reviewer's score but before I explain why remember that if you don't like the score handed to the game and you think it should have been better or worse, you can give it your own score right here in Gamespot and they show it to other readers... you rate games based on reasons they don't and you look at it in a way they don't necessarily do... just remember that
Now back on the main topic, is as simple as this: YES he is saying it is a great game and it seems like it's indeed a great game, story wise and stuff.... NOW, based on genre (RPG) it lacks in some departments... Take it this way to see if you guys understand it: Mass effect is a great game, has great story and gameplay and stuff BUT to RPG standards it lacks in some departments compared to others that could have been developed in better ways... nonetheless this is not such a big issue overall, hence they give it a 9 and not a 9.5.
It is not only about story and gameplay, they have to overlook what genre the game is based on so they can give a proper review... It's as simple as that
Thanks Kevin. I thought the review was very informative. I agree with a post above, I think more critics should take part in the forums. I think more game publishers and production companies should do the same.
I was on the fence before reading the review, but I will be stopping by my local game store on the way home to pick it up today, that is, if it's still in stock!
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