Gamespy review of lost odyssey 2.5 out of 5

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#1 Lord_Pro
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GAMESPY REVIEW OF LOST ODYSSEY

Gamespy Rating of Lost Odyssey 2.5 out of 5 stars

PROS:Pretty battles; occasional sweeping vistas; skill systems solid; balanced combat difficulty.

CONS:Story and characters shamelessly derivative; hideous load times; wide variety of technical issues; story signifies nothing.

The latest project from Final Fantasy creator Sakaguchi's Mistwalker studio, Lost Odyssey aims to ape the ****of ****c RPGs. While it's certainly playable, it feels like more of a relic than perhaps its creators intended. Basic features and dungeon design are handled with the graceful hand of a master designer, but that doesn't compensate for numerous gameplay, storytelling and technical issues. Fans of old-fashioned Japanese-****RPGs will doubtlessly find aspects to enjoy, but this is not the title that will vault Mistwalker to the triple-A status the studio's hype might suggest.

Lift and Separate

Lost Odyssey is basically a competent RPG, with a few wrenching stutters. The random encounters are spaced out well enough to give breathing room but also create tense situations as you try to hammer through a dungeon. Save points are frequent enough that you shouldn't worry about plunging into a dungeon for fear of having to turn off the game (and lose some massive quantity of unsaved progress) before you finish. Once you have the five characters needed to fill out a battle party you'll have plenty of actions per turn, hit points and magic points to play with. But combat is too basic to satisfy, the dungeons drive a half-hearted story, and it'll more than half-a-dozen hours before you get that full-sized party.

Characters are, largely, either fighters or magicians. There are four options for magic schools: black magic exploits elemental weakness; white magic heals and protects; "spirit" magic does unaligned damage and buffs; and the combination school of magic lets you put together some neat Spell A + Spell B tricks.

Mortal party members gain skills by leveling up and can use all of their skills at any time, while the party's immortals gain skills from items or from "linked" mortal party members and have a limited number of skills they can equip at a given time. Each defeated enemy, in general, grants one skill point toward mastering skills ranging from magic to swordsmanship. Item customization is limited to a skill-granting item, the craftable "rings," and your weapons -- that's it. If you think that sounds an awful lot like Final Fantasy games, get ready to think that quite a few times as we discuss Lost Odyssey.


The game's other main systemic twist is that your back-row characters are protected by a "wall." This represents the front row characters defending them, and the strength of the wall equals the starting hit points of your front-row characters. As the battle drags on and your front row gets torn up, the damage your back row takes gets worse and worse. In a combat system that wasn't so stripped down, wasn't competent yet so very basic, the wall system would be a lot more interesting. In Lost Odyssey, rather than take a risk with a tweaked combat engine, Mistwalker created just about the simplest combat resolution system possible. Have the most hit points and spend the most magic points, and you win.

Combat is simply a matter of grinding enemies down; using magic or the melee-enhancing "ring" abilities specific monsters are vulnerable to doesn't do much to alter the odds. Your enemies almost unfailingly have tons of hit points relative to your damage output, and high damage output (in terms of hit points or conditions) relative to your hit points.

Combat animations take an astonishingly long time, slowing down the siege combat even more. Enemies and combat animations are the prettiest part of the game, and are in fact stand-out examples of next-gen beauty, but by hour thirty you'll be cursing them. It takes an excellent designer to make the system work as well as it does -- hit points, magic points, damage output, save point placements, and combat occurance rates are just right for what the system tries to do. But this is, fundamentally, the combat system from Final Fantasy. It hasn't aged spectacularly well.

The problem is compounded since it takes almost the entire first disc to get a full party going. With less than five party members, the combat dynamics of damage absorption and dealing heavily favor the enemy, putting the player on the (slow, dull) defensive in a combat system that's already too slow and too dull.

Late in the game when your group is broken up into sets of two or three characters, the problem is even worse. Enemies do damage as if you had five characters to soak it up, leading to lots of frustrating game overs. Mistwalker needed to take some sort of risk here, either to speed up combat resolution or to give players the option to do something more interesting than pick which character has low hit points and cast heal on them. Persona 3 showed that a ****c JRPG could be modernized and still feel satisfyingly old-school; in contrast, Lost Odyssey seems stuck in the past
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http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/mistwalker-rpg-2/850156p1.html

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#2 bigj1985
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to me that game dont look that great. but im going to rent it frist before i buy it.
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this game looks like its going to suck, not my kind of game
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#4 Odin945
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I'm buying it as soon as it comes out, the review looks like garbage complaining about thinks that are for old RPG's.
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#5 FamiBox
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#6 wreak
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i don't realy know how they can say that kind of stuff about the story and characters considering that for 1, all characters are derivative in some way, and 2, the games writing is some super famous japanese novelist who is known for writing deep and compelling storys that dive deep into all aspects of the human condition.... i guess it wasn't "point and shoot the evil terrorsts" enough for them.
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#7 OfficialBed
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oh well...it's only another person's view of the game
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#8 i-rock-socks
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i like these kinda games but i gotta say, i saw this coming

heard it was gonna be great from alot of people and i was always expecting it to be another blue dragon, (it terms of low score, i didnt really agree with it) im not saying the games gonna suck, just that it wouldnt be loved by the critics

i dont really care much about peoples reviews anymore tho, just one of the many stepping stones to making a purchase

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FamiBox

I really did lol.

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#10 Jade233
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Sounds like a lot of opinion and not much reasoning behind not giving the gmae a positive review. I am keeping the pre-order and still cant wait to play this.
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#11 i-rock-socks
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i don't realy know how they can say that kind of stuff about the story and characters considering that for 1, all characters are derivative in some way, and 2, the games writing is some super famous japanese novelist who is known for writing deep and compelling storys that dive deep into all aspects of the human condition.wreak

that may be true but that doesnt mean that thats the case here, it could honestly just have crappy characters and story.

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#12 Anti-Gamer
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Lost odyssey down fall was the story itself. Sakaguchi isn't a very good story teller, he should just remain as a producer and let the team he put together work on it. I'll still rent this game though, even though the story will suck.

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#13 Anti-Gamer
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i don't realy know how they can say that kind of stuff about the story and characters considering that for 1, all characters are derivative in some way, and 2, the games writing is some super famous japanese novelist who is known for writing deep and compelling storys that dive deep into all aspects of the human condition.... i guess it wasn't "point and shoot the evil terrorsts" enough for them.wreak
You're so wrong. Sakaguchi did the main plot for lost odyssey. Kiyoshi Shigematsu did the side story/quest "1000 years of dream." Most people that played lost odyssey agree that the main story is weak and poor. But 1000 years of dream is superb.
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#14 luc11044
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IGN gave it an 8.2. I trust that site a lot more than Gamespy.

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#15 Elann2008
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Well, Gametrailers.com gave it an 8.8. And the highest factor of the score was actually the story, which recieved 9.6. So I cant see how Gamespy would rate this game so low. I respect his opinion, and I will have to try this game out for myself. And we will see what Gamespot rates it.
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thats cool. i'm def getting it. i don't care whar gamespy has to say. i'm long overdue for a good jrpg--- most people seem to not like them anymore, so i don't trust reviews that are overly negative
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#17 Ket87
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They pretty much whined about hating old-school JRPGs the entire time without actually coming out and saying it.
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#18 n_kors
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Ya ummm, this review is not enought to quell my interest in this game. It honestly looks interesting, like reading a good book. Who the **** cares about the battle style. Turn and go is turn and go is turn and go. Complaining about that is like saying that having a gun on the screen in FPshooters just isn't good enough anymore.
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#19 saiyanlarry
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this game looks awesome! **** you and **** the ****y review you copy and pasted into here. who the **** even looks to GAMESPY for reviews anyways? the best and most thought out review ive seen so far is the gametrailers review, and they said the story is really really good and gave the game overall an 8.8/10. id listen to gametrailers over gamespy ANY day. and i dont even care about reviews anyways. if you think a game looks good then try it for yourself. if you think a game looks like **** then leave it be and get in with your pathetic life. i cant wait for lost odyssey!!!!!
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#20 BreakingPoint8
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Pretty bad review, ironic the site gave Blue Dragon an 4/5. (Games Radar gave Blue Dragon a 8/10 as well.) "Engaging story"

Gametrailers gave Blue Dragon a 7.5 and said that the story sucked(6.0).

They reviewed Lost Odyssey and gave the story a 9.6, with an over all score of 8.8,

It's kind of funny the sites that liked Blue Dragon haven't liked Lost Odyssey (Gamespy 2 1/2 - 5 and Games Radar 6/10), while the ones who reviewed Blue Dragon with a low score (IGN - 7.9, IGN AU - 7.0) actually liked Lost Odyssey (IGN - 8.2, IGN AU -8.0).

I guess you should use your head and decide if you want to buy it or not.

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#21 Gen-Gawl
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I have a feeling that if the game had "Final Fantasy" in the title he would have reviewed it better. He kept ripping on it because it's too much like final fantasy but everyone loves final fantasy! Go figure.

In any case, I plan on getting it.

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#22 xsubtownerx
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Mixed reviews. GT gave it an 8.8. Very lovely video review. One of the better ones I've seen.

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/1694.html

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#23 damned_beast
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Gametrailers gave it a 8.8/10