Gears Of War 2 Multiplayer is a joke

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#1 xmhoward
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Well I finally had time to dive into a full day of xbox live this weekend at my friends house and i was thoroughly disappointing.

I just have to ask how in the world can they screw up gears multiplayer so badly.

I was very horrified to find out how bad multiplayer was because well that is all i play gears for...

First and foremost multiplayer is slow as hell. We would have to wait anywhere from 30 seconds to 20 minutes. On average we had to wait 10 minutes a freaking match. I felt like i was sitting waiting for a match longer than i was actually playing the game. This is just sad and pathetic. For god sakes test the game next time before releasing it.
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Next thing that really drove me crazy was you can no longer quit out of a match. Seriously it is impossible, you have to go back to your dashboard by hitting the big center button on your controller. There is no quit feature in the game. This may sound like well who cares quitting is for noobs, but seriously when half your team is not there or when someones connection is garbage and your lagging into every wall you do not feel like playing the match. Pretty much their is a number of scenarios where quitting is necessary.

The next awful thing is in gears 1 multiplayer always had noobs running around chainsawing people. It was always annoying, but you could usually counter this by shooting them with a gun to stop the chainsaw from revving and normally a shotgun to the face would kill the chainsaw noob before he could automatically latch onto your body and destroy you.

Well in gears 2 the chainsaw is the most used weapon by far. It is so easy to chainsaw people when you cannot stop the guy from revving his chainsaw and cutting your limbs off. Also usually everyone would just shotgun a chainsaw guy that is charging at you. I cannot count how many scenarios where i would shotgun a guy straight in the face and to my amazement he survives and still chainsaws me.

So pretty much
Chainsaw = god mode and best closeup weapon
Shotgun = underpowered piece of crap

Also smoke grenades knock people down for about 3 seconds so pretty much if they throw a smoke at you and you get knocked down you are dead because they just come charging into the smoke with their chainsaw revving and your dead before you can even stand up again.

There is so many problems that i cannot cover them all in this one post.

I am deeply disappointing with gears 2 and i have to wonder what in the world epic games was thinking when they released this final product and had the decency to call it a sequel to gears 1.

To top it all off me and my friend got so pissed at this game we took out the disk of my brand new gears of war 2 and put in my over 1 year old halo 3 because frankly I would rather play a 1 year old game like Halo 3 over this crappy sequel the call bigger better and more badass.

So for peope like me who do not like to read paragraphs of information heres a quick summary of what i found wrong

  • Chainsaw is over powered. It seems like you cannot stop it ever.
  • Shotgun seems to be very underpowered at times
  • Tagging gernades on walls seems to be a little cheap
  • Smoke gernades should not knock down an enemy for 3 second, maybe stunning them for a second would be better but three just seems way to long
  • Some maps that have the rotating weapons each round seem 1 sided for a team.
  • Multiplayer seems slow and clunky compared to gears 1
  • sniper seems a little underpowered maybe i am just used to active reload always downing
  • You cannot quit out of a match

Edit* removed all the literally's out, idk why i had so many in there but thanks for pointing it out

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#2 Squall18
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I agree with some of what you said. It takes too long to get in a game as expected for a new game, and the chainsaw is too powerful.

However, Horde mode is a blast and if you get a good team to play with you own.

I wish guests could join tho

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#3 C-Lee
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I dont think so... just played it at a friends house for 4 hours. Horde mode is incredible. Wingman is just awsome. You just are bad probably
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#4 xmhoward
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I dont think so... just played it at a friends house for 4 hours. Horde mode is incredible. Wingman is just awsome. You just are bad probablyC-Lee

So me getting knocked down by grenades and not resorting to using a chainsaw and waiting 10-20 minutes for a match make me ba?

Also i really do like the new horde mode it is a great new addition to the game, but what I am bashing is not horde mode, but the multiplayer games like warzone and execution.

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#5 Raging-Cashew
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i agree totally. Gears 1 is my favorite game this gen and it is unbeleievable how badly they screwed this game up. From the crappy shotgun which i feel is now useless to the overpowering chainsaw this game is an utter disappointment right now
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#6 evenlegend
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i admit the matchmakeing should be faster but apart from that i love the multiplayer and the chainsaw should be better than the shotgun, the games built around the bloody lancer for godsake. and there is a way to stop ppl chainsawing u use a chainsaw! and if u both do it the same time it will start a battle which is awsum :)

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#7 Xero319
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Ya know, the only thing I agree with is the knock down with a smoke.....completely gay....but other than that.....I disagree. And why do people keep saying it takes them FOREVER to get into matches, because this does not happen to me or the rest of the party.....EVER!
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#8 dsman418
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[QUOTE="C-Lee"]I dont think so... just played it at a friends house for 4 hours. Horde mode is incredible. Wingman is just awsome. You just are bad probablyxmhoward

So me get knocked down by gernads and not resorting to using a chainsaw and waiting 10-20 minutes for a match make me ba?

Also i really do like the new horde mode it is a great new addition to the game, but what I am bashing is not horde mode, but the multiplayer games like warzone and execution.

yes it does. get a better connection, im in matches within 20 secins, NO LAG at all. and tyhe multilayer is ten times better than gears one. you sir FAIL
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#9 DZBricktop
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I agree with a few things. Sometimes matches take WAY too long to start. And not being able to stop someones running chainsaw sucks. I don't care about killing him right away. But at least make it so a few rounds disables the running chainsaw. Some of us like to use other weapons you know? Right now, the only defense for the Lancer, is make sure you always run around with YOUR Lancer. It makes for some really boring battles.
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#10 karriston
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Stop whining, the only downside to the game is the horrible matchmaking. Smoke grenades are now useful, and shotguns have finally been nerfed. Although I do agree that chainsaws are overpowered now, at least, unlike shotguns, the winner isn't decided by who has the faster connection in chainsaw duels. I can actually stand a chance against the host now, Gears is finally shaping up to what it should be. Again, if the chainsawing was refined a bit, the gameplay would be perfect. The guy who thought matchmaking would be a good idea needs to be shot though.
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#12 ethanpaige
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I'm glad the shotgun is weaker, now every damn match isn't a shotgun fest...
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#13 DJ_Magneto
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"LITERALLY" {Opens can, takes a sip} I counted 7. I'm feeling kind of tipsy.
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#14 darksusperia
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the first was bad and you expected better.....
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#15 cogsoldier24
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i have a gears of war 2 problem can someone help, i can't get the characters from gears one in gears two but i have all the achievements for gears of war can someone help
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#16 Englando_IV
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Occasionally it takes strangely long in matchmaking, but overall it's not bad.
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#17 DJ_Magneto
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i have a gears of war 2 problem can someone help, i can't get the characters from gears one in gears two but i have all the achievements for gears of war can someone helpcogsoldier24
Are you signed in as the same gamertag/profile that you used to get the achievements in Gears 1? I didn't have a problem with it. I had messages pop up that I had RAAM, Kim and Carmine unlocked after I popped in Gears 2 for the first time.
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#18 DJSAV_101
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the only time i have problems getting a match is when we need one more person to complete the team. If we have five, matches are found seconds after the last one ended.

im glad the shotgun was underpowered. I cant count how many time people would just charge straight through my lancer and two piece kill me.

personaly, im happy with the MP.

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#19 chadalac99
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the matchmaking feature is horrible. it takes so long to find a match. I have been on these forums for 15 minutes while waiting to find a match. My 360 just went idle. Seriously? The match finder on Gears 1 was so much better.
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#20 K1LLR3175
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[QUOTE="xmhoward"]

[QUOTE="C-Lee"]I dont think so... just played it at a friends house for 4 hours. Horde mode is incredible. Wingman is just awsome. You just are bad probablydsman418

So me get knocked down by gernads and not resorting to using a chainsaw and waiting 10-20 minutes for a match make me ba?

Also i really do like the new horde mode it is a great new addition to the game, but what I am bashing is not horde mode, but the multiplayer games like warzone and execution.

yes it does. get a better connection, im in matches within 20 secins, NO LAG at all. and tyhe multilayer is ten times better than gears one. you sir FAIL

Your spelling is FAIL how about that.People can't have their own opinions about things without people like you judging them.Atleast he gave some detailed reasons why and not just 'It sucks because it sucks' or some crap like that.
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#21 ronniepage588
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yeah i prefer a multiplayer at cod4 speed. if not, than if its a slower strategic game i like it to be more like socom. gears is cool online for a while and gets old fast
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#22 colin_31
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thats probably because every one is getting it and the servers are filling up like wildfire wait about a month and it will speed up rediculously fast

so its mainly server lag

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#23 IamTehN00bness
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  • Chainsaw is over powered. It seems like you cannot stop it ever. Completely untrue, there are is a vast amount of different tactics to stop a chainsaw. First off, of course if they come from behind, you're dead, you'd be dead with any gun, however when they come at you roll back, wall-bounce out of the way, lancer and backpedal just to name a few.
  • Shotgun seems to be very underpowered at times. Again, something completely untrue. Epic changed a few things but in no way did they remove damage from the gun. Epic removed the random dmg (Gears1 vets know what I"m talking about) of the first game and decreased the firing rate, they did not tamper with anything else. Unlike the original Gears of War, you now HAVE to pull up the sights and shoot, blindfiring is almost impossible when you're not host, and when you are host, the shotgun is practically the same gun. Two-piecing, and one-shot active downs are still as effective as ever.
  • Tagging gernades on walls seems to be a little cheap. I will agree with you on one ocassion, when you have already used up your grenades/explosives and they haven't respawned on the map. Otherwise, take your time when you're running around. Gears 2 is not a fast-paced shooter like the second. You need to be careful, otherwise you WILL die.
  • Smoke gernades should not knock down an enemy for 3 second, maybe stunning them for a second would be better but three just seems way to long. Smoke grenades are perfect the way they are. It is quite easy to dodge an incoming smoke grenade, wall-bouncing, evasive rolls and roadie running are perfectly acceptable maneuvers when trying to escape the blast radius of a smoke grenade explosion. With that being said, if it's 5v1, 5v2 and they all throw smokes, you're dead. But more likely than not, you'd be dead anyways.
  • Some maps that have the rotating weapons each round seem 1 sided for a team. Don't know what you're talking about. Most maps are symmetrical and when they're not, you change spawn locations every round.
  • Multiplayer seems slow and clunky compared to gears 1. This is an obvious statement and I don't understand the point you're trying to make. Gears of War 1 evolved into a game different from what Epic had envisioned, the fast-paced shotgun battles of the original are gone in the sequel. The game is supposed to be a slow, tactically paced game. However, game mechanics have improved, roadie-running feels better, you no longer get stuck on random cover and the ability to "air-bounce (stop the action of sliding into cover/swat-turning/etc.)" has made the core game much more fluid and responsive.
  • sniper seems a little underpowered maybe i am just used to active reload always downing. Most people, myself included, did not appreciate the one-shot downs of old. The sniper was meant for headshots, not the random-blindfire garbage from the first game. Besides, now that the game on a decent connection has virtually zero bullet delay, you should be going for those aforementioned headshots as opposed to trying to down an enemy.
  • You cannot quit out of a match. I semi-agree with you on this.I have only had one game where I have been required to quit out of a match, and that was a game in which it was all European people and myself. There were far too many people that quit in the first Gears and Epic decided to take out the option of quitting out of a match because of this. I know it's stupid because you can just quit to the dashboard, but with the improvements made in the netcode/matchmaking, you should not be needing to quit in the first place. Just because you have to play a gametype which you may not like, is no excuse for you to quit. Suck it up and play, not only do you have the chance to improve your skills, the said gametype may grow on you.

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#24 OfficialBed
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meh, i love it
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#25 Elann2008
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I highly disagree. The reason why they made the chainsaw/lancer better and dumbed down the shotgun so people can't easily just roll up to someone and blow their heads off. There is stopping power in this game now so if you can't stop someone coming up to you with a chainsaw then you need to reevaluate your game..lrn2play. Now, the lancer actually has a purpose instead of a bunch of people running around one-shotting ppl with a shotgun.

Horde mode is my favorite. There are so many features and modes to play.

As for matchmaking.. it isn't faster or slower than any other game i've played (halo 3 or COD4).. Mind you... this game barely came out.. I think you're an extremely impatient person.. People like you need to wait a month so you can get 10 second queue times..

The multiplayer is slower because Epic games never intended to make a multiplayer where people just run at people and blow em up to pieces.. GOW2 requires teamwork and cooperation.. THAT'S what they wanted to do in the first game, but they didn't have enough time...

The sniper is not underpowered... I've gotten more headshots..than I ever have before.

Tagging grenades is not cheap.. it's part of the tactical shooter aspect. This is a third person, tactical shooter,..btw..

You're complaining about not being able to quit a game??? That was the friggin problem in the first game.. PEOPLE QUITING.. and I'm 100% you're one of those people. God, I hate people who quit.. just because they don't get to "own" people.. face it...there are people out there that are better than YOU.

The pace is slower because Epic games wanted to avoid what they did in Gears 1.. their intention was to never make the mutiplayer that way.. because they didn't have the time and it was rushed.. So the product you got in Gears of War 1 was actually a mistake.. In GOW2, the maps are bigger.. so of course it's going to be slower.. And remember, this game is aimed towards the casual players as well.. I like GOW2's approach. This will get rid of all the noob-calling idiots or at least make them play less.. Personally, I despised the GOW1 community.. there were too many idiots.. that only cared about being the "hero" and getting their stupid headshots.. Ever since I played GOW2, I have only run into decent players. I'm glad.

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#26 Kaos39
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My main complaint is that the matchmaking does take a little long to find a match. It's understandable, considering it just came out, and I imagine Epic will get a fix for it. Chainsaw's are annoying at times, but it's not to hard to stop them from getting to you, and usually after you chainsaw someone, you get chainsawed yourself, so it's kind of a fair trade. Overall though, I love it, has to be my favorite game on the 360, possibly of all time!
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#27 darkmoney52
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I think the multiplayer is pretty sick, but it does take far too long to join a match(Hopefully it will run more smoothly in the future). But the only real problem with the shotgun is it's hard to take down people when they have their chainsaws out, but it's still a very effective flanking weapon. And the smoke grenades are pretty easy to avoid; they're not hard to see coming and you have plenty of evasive manuvers.
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#28 kozzy1234
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IMO they improved the online. They added the awesome horde mode and the versus modes are alot more realistic now. Takes more skill now to play the game on versus mode imo.

I hated Gears 1 versus mode, but Gears 2 is a step in the right direction imo.

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#29 battalionwars13
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[QUOTE="C-Lee"]I dont think so... just played it at a friends house for 4 hours. Horde mode is incredible. Wingman is just awsome. You just are bad probablyxmhoward

So me getting knocked down by grenades and not resorting to using a chainsaw and waiting 10-20 minutes for a match make me ba?

Also i really do like the new horde mode it is a great new addition to the game, but what I am bashing is not horde mode, but the multiplayer games like warzone and execution.

what are you talking about, 10 - 20 minutes to get into a match? I got into match like in 10 seconds... Way better than the first gears, no lag but i do agree about the weapons...

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#30 pandoradrive
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I agree completley, It took me 15 minutes to find a match and it was decent then i had to restart the search all over again after the match, WTF!!!!!!!!!. I'll just be playing R2 online, Gears 2 online could be awesome and its some things i am sure they can patch up.
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#31 mclakers
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my primary issue is the matchmaking, it takes way way too long to get a game going. and the chainsaw is a little to powerful. but you cant deny that gears of war 2 is the best game to come out this year or atleast one of the best.
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#32 ExtremeOne316
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Gears of War 2 multiplayer is fine you must be one of those shotgun users that miss its power . the chainsaw is not overpowered

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#33 bobert19
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i'm very disapointed too. the modes/guns/models are all awesome. but not being able to choose the level you are playing and the number of rounds is dumb. not to mention the wait time is inconsistent in match making. also not being able to quit when there is horrendous lag(which for me has been quite often even though i have a great connection) is totally dumb. hopefully some of the problems get fixed or they just switch it entirely.
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#34 Lionhart_basic
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The only thing I agree with is matchmaking takes too damn long. One of the reasons for the slowdown is cause now they have matchmaking that pits same level of players against one another instead of pitting anyone against noobs I prefer it that way but I hate the time it takes, it never takes longer than 5 minutes to find a match. It's good they got rid of the power of the shotgun cause that sucked. I don't get chainsawed as often as I did in Gears 1.
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#35 ThEmAk_XD
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Riiight
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#36 Toriko42
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I think it is perfect it just takes too long to get into a game
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#37 deadFalling
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give the matchmaking a chance, ITS THE FIRST FREEKIN WEEKEND! and today it worked really good so...
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#38 iam2green
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well one thing is that i don't think everyone wants to play multiplayer all the time. when i get a new game there is multiplayer i usualy play single player beat the game then play mp.
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#39 203762174820177760555343052357
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Please use the Gears 2 thread we have stickied above for Gears2 discussion.