Getting really tired of the way console gaming is going....

Ok I come from a childhood that consoles were no more then 20 bucks

when the xbox non 360 cameout it was definately less then 200$

Now consoles go out 400$+ and get old extremely fast!

I just got the xbox one for 300$ for my birthday this year thinking it was the latest and greatest

So happy like christmas after spending an arm and a leg just to find out a few months later that...

2 xbox consoles are already out! I cant believe this crap why cant they just stick with 1 console for atleast

7 years at a time they didnt even make windows 11 yet jeeze im so sick of xbox treating us like this how

does a normal person afford to spend 100s of $ for this crud i shouldnt spend 300$ on something then

have xbox treat me like I am already retro on every dam thing i play and use! I dont have a 4k tv to even

play this crud why do we have to advance technology so fast and so crazy and charge half a thousand

dollars for every frigging thing.

When you separate your

Sentences like this it's hard to take

Your shit thread seriously.

By the way they

Announced the X1S and the X1X at the same

Time genius.

@primorandomguy

you just sound like a complete asshole anyways so idoubt noone will take you seriously

and seriously announcing 2 consoles being made at once is kinda retarded in itself.

i think this forum is just full of jerks who dont understand what its like to be in poverty so i will conclude.

I hope the best for you and that karma never catches up to you. You see that? its called being nice. I hope you learn it someday...?

@rogueangel:

I understand what you mean, but I assure you. The Xbox One S and Xbox One X are actually the exact same as your current Xbox One. The only difference is that the Xbox One X makes games look better but it has no other advantages outside of that and it's not meant to outlive the Xbox One but to EXTEND it's lifetime.

@rogueangel: If you dont have 4k tv then you are just fine playing xbox one.

xbox one x play games at higher resolution but only if you own 4k tv.

If you are playing on 1080p tv then xbox one is all you need for the next years

thankyou for these honest comments thats what I was looking for and reassured me, I kinda figured since new games are required for actual better graphics. I guess the one x is just supposed to make the 4k tv users happier with there system. I will saveup 30$ a month on a gift card for when they either make an xbox two or make games that no longer support xbox one original. I just think microsoft made some even bigger mistakes making a console thats not really a new console in the terms that it will run new games that look 10x better kinda thing.

I also feel like i come from a different world when people mention better graphics and gaming and have never noticed the difference between 30 fps to 60 fps so i doubt the upgrade will really effect me in any way other then noticing better performance?. I dont even think xbox one takes that long to load?. Idk I just feel like these "intense graphics and performance" Are microsizively unimportant. Sorry about the first post for some reason i can write better now on gamespot. I used to play skyrim on a 1core laptop at 15 fps and was happy. I just feel like im from an entire different world then others and dont fully grasp the aspect of what better graphics does entirely. I mean it looks like everything goes faster and somehow that makes it look better?. idfk lol i will have to study how people notice these graphical changes like there comparing better graphics to a mansion compared to lower graphics a poorhouse

Its almost like better graphics is starting to become something made for perfectionists.

Not to put anyone down and I probably need more study on this, It just really starting to look that way.

I looked at a comparison between xbox one and the x and honestly didnt notice anything too

extravagent to spend another 500$

I don't remember a time when consoles cost $20 and I've been gaming since the 70s.

heck if you factor in inflation consoles are actually way cheaper now.

A launch Intellivision cost $299 in 1980 money, that's like $800 in 2017 money.

I know because I got one for my 10th birthday.

I remember my dad buying NES systems for 20$ a pop, Idk different prices different places we used to get it at this old game store that is a pool parts store now.

Thankyou for your wisdom however, Ive only lived 28 years. Nintendo might have been alot more starting out, but deflated alot I remember it started 20$ and went down to 10$. But this could have been out for awhile and i just didnt realize it being so young, Im sorry for my information out of blinding rage. I still dont think its right to be charged so much for things and will never will be, I am extremely sorry you ever had to pay anywhere near that for such a 2d thing.

Thankyou for opening my eyes to this, I have looked it up now that you have mentioned that comment and have found this.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Launch_price

That really makes me want to vomit, I only make 500 dollars a month working a shitty job and consoles have always been retardedly priced. How did companies ever expect us to pay these unfair prices?. I dont even remember paying over 100$ for any console but I probably was looking at a time when they were cheaper, Im always late to the game the whole thing just makes me sick. Especially xbox gold feeding me old ass games all the time that I think are new I feel like I will never be current. I dont believe in spending over 20$ for a game yet there 60+ lol. Anyways what was said is said and i got reassurance not to buy the new xbox gen just yet so thats all I needed hope you all have a wonderful day and ty.

I should really change this title to im really sick of the way console gaming has always been! how dare they charge us 100s of dollars just to have some kind of entertainment in our lives!

A lot of people started gaming last gen have misconceptions of consoles and game development.

The 7th generation with the Xbox 360, PS3, and Wii, was one of the first to bridge development of console and PC multiplatform titles like no generation before it. It also introduced many features into the console world that hadn't taken their place as standard features in a console, like built in HDD, downloadable XBLA/PSN games, demos, patches, DLC, online gaming, friends lists, achievements/trophies, party chat, built in wireless controller functionality, streaming movie services. Having these features on PS3 just reinforced them as features all future consoles should have.

On top of this, there was a mad dash by publishers and developers to come up with the latest and greatest games, to plant their flag in this new era of more money in gaming, more money spent by consumers, more money spent by developers and publishers to make them, more money going into advertising. What we saw was lots of great games. It could almost be said it was golden age of gaming... almost. Thing is, lots of publishers and developers disappeared last gen. It took lots of money to make all those great games, and not everyone recovered the costs, even for really great games. Even developers and publishers once revered for their past successes found themselves closing up shop. Those that survived the generation didn't exactly escape things unscathed either.

So, don't go comparing this gen and last gen and thinking any one console maker or publisher or developer dropped the ball. It was a regression bound to happen, and one that still is.

Also, Microsoft took a loss last gen on the Xbox 360, lost $1 billion up front to beef up the Xbox 360 and sell it at a loss just to make it more powerful. They're not really in a position this gen to blow more money, not after the billions wasted to date, just on things like $500 million NFL fantasy football app that could have funded countless AAA games and indie titles, or even the $2 billion more on getting Mojang and MineCraft, which in long run was probably a good move for other reasons, but hardly did anything for the Xbox side of things.

Anyhow, if Microsoft didn't squander that money, I'd of rather seen them fund more games with it, not lower the price of the Xbox One X. Besides, $500 for this beast is pricey, sure but like they said, it's a premium product. Seems like a lot, but hardly compares to the $2000 I spent on my 4K OLED. I wouldn't get to upset about it yet. Besides, it'll probably go down in price in time.

yeah, still though at market price they atleast sell it for double what they made it for if not triple. This does happen quite frequently im sorry you had to spend 2k on a tv thats horrible also. dont stick up for them they know what there doing tripling the costs at startup. What these companies dont get is if they sell it for less they get more people buying it which can end up in an omega profit. Ik cause ive played business games where you lower the profit and you get much more money in the long run, They want the big money now is how theyve always been. So we shouldnt be sad for them if they are failing cause they want the most money possible in the shortest amount of time. Build an xbox one x for 50$ by ordering in multitude which is always cheaper, sell for 500$. the misconception alot of people have is there ordering the parts seperately. No business does this ever as its cheaper to buy in bulk. Your tv truly probably costed around 250$ to make and you paid 2,000$ for it. Nobodys going to stick upto this injustice however cause were not only lazy, But we are naive and believe them when they state a price it costed them without further investigation or anything. This forum is useless as nothing will change the price will keep going up on things even though the poverty level crashes to the floor trying to nab anyone left to soak money out of. enjoy the xbox three which will probably retail at 5,000$ instead of 500. And we will fall into the trap of "its the best graphics ever made!" when in reality most computers actually outstage the one x its been proven, Not that the pc is any better all companies follow this practice of selling to you for atleast 80% more of what they paid.

I don't really mind that there will be an upgraded xbox one x console. Good for the people that can afford it. As long as they continue to produce games for my xbox one s for a good 5 years or so.

Not trying to be a smart arse, but that bolded part is your problem. How can you live off of 500 a month?

Really 20 bucks must've been a Chinese knockoff because I've owned everything from nes to x1x

Price's for the nes snes n64 gc were 199.99 Wii 249.99 Wii u and switch 299.99

Ps1 ps2 were 299.99 ps3 599.99

PS4 was 399.99 PS4 pro 399.99

Xbox 299.99 Xbox 360 w 20 gig was 299.99 Xbox w no memory was 199.99

Xbox one was 499.99 Xbox one s was 299.99 Xbox one x is 499.99

I'm not sure of Sega but that's besides the point

As for handhelds

Gb gbc gba were all 99.99

Ds was 149.99

3ds was 249.99

3ds ll was 199.99 same w new 3ds xl

New 2ds 149.99

2ds 99

Psp was 199.99

Psvita was 249.99

So where's 20 dollars lol

what planet are you living on ? $20 ? you must have bought those used which there is nothing wrong with that. no joke the NES back in the day was like i think $130 bucks. the N64 was i think to hazard a guess $150 i think? there has NEVER been a console or handheld one either that has sold it that cheap unless it's a knock off or it's on sale and you perhaps had a gift certificate to help knock down the price some more as well.

I've never heard of a $20 console and I'm 37. Just for the record, Etch-a-Sketch does not count as a game console. Granted I started gaming on the NES when I was 6, I'm quite sure the consoles preceeding that were still much more than $20 msrp.

Pretty much this. Companies don't care about poor people, they want to make a lot of money which TC obviously doesn't have.

in (2004) i think it was i bought the pS1 from a buddy of mine for $20 bucks it was used and that's how much he paid for it. i still have it in fact and it's right now in my closet and in it's box. but again that was used and not new. it was the Redesign by the way

If you humble enough and get into a cheap place you can live off of 500$ my rent is 140$ a month subsidized housing I walk where I need to be and pay my bills. I dont like the whole poor title either, You either have to be a slave to the system and work your ass off at something that eats your entire life to nothing I know cause I have friends that work third shift and there lifes practically revolve around work. I wrk 3 days a week only for 2 or 4 hours a day. So I guess my mind is really open to the ugliness of corperations and stuff. Yes the nintendo was a 20$ used at around 1998 my dad really knew how to haggle so maybe that had something to do with it, He also threw alot of nes systems out the window and broke them to nothing and would go out and buy a new one, Maybe he had some kind of discount from buying so many repeatedly idk. I just feel really bad for you guys in general, You are losing the most valuable commodity in your life which is time to work you cant get time back we only live once yet these companies laugh at all the time you wasted "Oh you know that whole week of time you used up to get that 500$? Snatched"

ArchoNils2 "Pretty much this. Companies don't care about poor people, they want to make a lot of money which TC obviously doesn't have."

As I said I dont like the poor label I am rich in other ways. anyways these comments wont hold water so its pointless to continue talking about these issues. there is nothing that can really be done for it eventually we will see consoles over 1000$ dollars and they will "justify it" I just dont know how they can live with themselves at night charging so much as the economy drops to nothing and keeps dropping to nothing?

Also ive heard with the xbox one x you not only need a 4k tv but a 4k tv with some kind of special high def attachment to it? what the balls this is getting uber retarded.

@rogueangel: first of all you don't need a special thing for a 4K TV you to just use the 4K HDMI that you get with the console and you're ready to go and by the way if you do buythe X it will make Games look better on your 1080P TV as well

Dark311... is right you don't need a 4K tv i don't have one at all, when they announced the One X last year and showed the actual system at E3 this year Phil Spencer said that they while making it realized that not everyone has a 4K tv and it was designed for those who like me don't have a 4K tv. will it look better on a 4K tv hell yeah but honestly i don't give a shit anyways. for me it's about the games and not about how they look but than i'm 39 i'm old school i guess in some ways

But the xbox one x will have the same games as any xbox one?.

the one X is an updated version of that pretty much. and it is a shit ton more powerful than the Original X Bone and though the one S is more powerful than the original system and i hear a vast improvement the one X is an upgrade from that console as well. same generation too and it can play 360 games so far i think they have something like 400 i think?i may have the number wrong on that and it will later this year my guess around X-mas maybe? the one X will also play the original consoles games as well. on wikipedia it said the 360 could play only 480 games on that console on this one i dunno yet i hear it's suppose to be less but i find that really stupid cause there is no doubt a lot of great games on the OG console that i would love to play.

i'm really awful at saying what is on the One X and how powerful it is but it's on this site so check it out. so yes the One X will play the exact same games as the X Bone and the one S the games will just look far better on the One X than it will on either console.