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#1 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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personally i hate the game and i am wonering who else hates it!
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#2 snackdaddy
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You need a middle ground. I definitely didn't think it was a God-sent like some, but it's definitely not a bad game.
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#3 OneBadLT123
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Not so much HATE the game, but I was disappointed in it that's for sure. Not nearly what I was expecting. I didn't have any over expectations, but I did expect it to build from the previous games. Just seems it took a step back in terms of content and replay. (No Live does not count, it sucks)
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#4 JohnnySN1P3R
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I was completely disappointed in it. I much prefer Saints Row 2.
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#5 K1LLR3175
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I like the free roam multiplayer.But the singleplayer really could have used some work.I wanted more of what made GTA San Adreas and Vice city special.Tanks,Chainsaws etc,etc.I want to see these new weapons that they are bringing in the DLC.
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#6 Peter_Cheek
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No it is a bad game.
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#7 wiouds
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I do not hate it but I do not love it. I tell even one that I did not like the roads layout.
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#8 snackdaddy
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P.S. according to your gamercard you've never played GTA4. You may have played it at a friend's house, but unless you started from the beginning and gave it AT LEAST a few hours to allow for story development I don't hold your opinion or poll with much regard. Sorry :(
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#9 vashkey
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I like how you guys are saying most people loved it despite the fact that almost every poster in this thread has said they either hate it or think it's just okay.

It's like people who complain about rabid Halo fans. You see way more complaining than you do the actual fanboys.

Anyway, I thought GTA IV was fun. Thats good enough for me.

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#10 Eski_Boi
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I cant vote on this becasue I think its different to the other gta's alot different and it has its good/bad points I think graphics wise is what makes it so good but little annoying things lke getting ran over by cars just bring it down for me.. I've only had it a day and just finished mission 14.. I cant give an opinion right now but I can see why people would say they hate it.
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#11 K1LLR3175
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P.S. according to your gamercard you've never played GTA4. You may have played it at a friend's house, but unless you started from the beginning and gave it AT LEAST a few hours to allow for story development I don't hold your opinion or poll with much regard. Sorry :(snackdaddy
Well I played GTA4 on the PS3 so that is my reason for it not showing up on my gamercard.
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#12 krovak0000
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GTA4 rocks
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#13 snackdaddy
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[QUOTE="snackdaddy"]P.S. according to your gamercard you've never played GTA4. You may have played it at a friend's house, but unless you started from the beginning and gave it AT LEAST a few hours to allow for story development I don't hold your opinion or poll with much regard. Sorry :(K1LLR3175
Well I played GTA4 on the PS3 so that is my reason for it not showing up on my gamercard.

P.S. that's a valid reason :) Wonder if that's the reason it's not on the TC's card. Though if that was the case this thread should be in the PS3 section.
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I completely hate it as well. It was a total let down for me. Nothing new. Nothing! sure, you can download mods, but that's just one thing!! And I can't go online! It's my Dad's, and I'm not allowed going online, Nor can I because I have to log in and I don't know the password.

But anyway, the only thing that has changed, is the graphics. sure they may be better, but woopty doo! It's got better graphics then the rest!

San Andreas is the best. 2 player is why. and the play area is so freakin huge.

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#15 Needles-Kane
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I hate the camera while driving so I really dislike the game. If the camera was like in GTA3 I would probably really like it. It is such a chore keeping the camera directly behind your car and not pointing 90 degrees in the wrong direction after going around a corner.
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P.S. according to your gamercard you've never played GTA4. You may have played it at a friend's house, but unless you started from the beginning and gave it AT LEAST a few hours to allow for story development I don't hold your opinion or poll with much regard. Sorry :(snackdaddy

i played with my friend for a while and hated it, sorry i didnt buy a game i didnt like!

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[QUOTE="snackdaddy"]P.S. according to your gamercard you've never played GTA4. You may have played it at a friend's house, but unless you started from the beginning and gave it AT LEAST a few hours to allow for story development I don't hold your opinion or poll with much regard. Sorry :(munchlax99

i played with my friend for a while and hated it, sorry i didnt buy a game i didnt like!

As you shouldn't buy a game you don't like. That's what intelligent consumers should do. My point being, I just question the length of time you gave the game to give it a fair shake. Playing the devil's advocate here, but site some reason's you "hated it". The reasons have to be pretty clear to have such distaste for a game. :)
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It was fun for about 8 hours, then it got fetch on me.
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[QUOTE="munchlax99"]

[QUOTE="snackdaddy"]P.S. according to your gamercard you've never played GTA4. You may have played it at a friend's house, but unless you started from the beginning and gave it AT LEAST a few hours to allow for story development I don't hold your opinion or poll with much regard. Sorry :(snackdaddy

i played with my friend for a while and hated it, sorry i didnt buy a game i didnt like!

As you shouldn't buy a game you don't like. That's what intelligent consumers should do. My point being, I just question the length of time you gave the game to give it a fair shake. Playing the devil's advocate here, but site some reason's you "hated it". The reasons have to be pretty clear to have such distaste for a game. :)

i dont see fun in going around killing people for no reason:P

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#20 vashkey
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[QUOTE="snackdaddy"][QUOTE="munchlax99"]

i played with my friend for a while and hated it, sorry i didnt buy a game i didnt like!

munchlax99

As you shouldn't buy a game you don't like. That's what intelligent consumers should do. My point being, I just question the length of time you gave the game to give it a fair shake. Playing the devil's advocate here, but site some reason's you "hated it". The reasons have to be pretty clear to have such distaste for a game. :)

i dont see fun in going around killing people for no reason:P

So whats that got to do with GTA IV?

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[QUOTE="munchlax99"][QUOTE="snackdaddy"] As you shouldn't buy a game you don't like. That's what intelligent consumers should do. My point being, I just question the length of time you gave the game to give it a fair shake. Playing the devil's advocate here, but site some reason's you "hated it". The reasons have to be pretty clear to have such distaste for a game. :)vashkey

i dont see fun in going around killing people for no reason:P

So whats that got to do with GTA IV?

Umm hello, it's Grand Theft Auto, you can shoot people in the face with RPG's and slice their heads off with chainsaws.

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#22 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="munchlax99"]

i dont see fun in going around killing people for no reason:P

MOCHIRON_MAN

So whats that got to do with GTA IV?

Umm hello, it's Grand Theft Auto, you can shoot people in the face with RPG's and slice their heads off with chainsaws.

thank you

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#23 vashkey
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[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"][QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="munchlax99"]

i dont see fun in going around killing people for no reason:P

So whats that got to do with GTA IV?

Umm hello, it's Grand Theft Auto, you can shoot people in the face with RPG's and slice their heads off with chainsaws.

But you don't have to do it with out reason. You don't do any of this with any less reason than Halo, Call of Duty or Gears of War. And there are no chainsaws in Grand Theft Auto IV.
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#24 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

So whats that got to do with GTA IV?

vashkey

Umm hello, it's Grand Theft Auto, you can shoot people in the face with RPG's and slice their heads off with chainsaws.

But you don't have to do it with out reason.You don't do any of this with any less reason than Halo, Call of Duty or Gears of War.And there are no chainsaws in Grand Theft Auto IV.

in halo 3 you are in a war, so kill whatever you want!

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#26 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]

Umm hello, it's Grand Theft Auto, you can shoot people in the face with RPG's and slice their heads off with chainsaws.

munchlax99

But you don't have to do it with out reason.You don't do any of this with any less reason than Halo, Call of Duty or Gears of War.And there are no chainsaws in Grand Theft Auto IV.

in halo 3 you are in a war, so kill whatever you want!

So? You're still comitting virtual murder.

Both games have a story. So it's not like in GTA IV your just killing people for the sake of killing people unless you want to. In which case, thats the same reason you kill in Halo 3's, Gears' and CoD4's multiplayer. Your not actually playing some role in a story in either of those game's multiplayer games. Your just killing forthe fun of it.

I fail to see how this is any worse than GTA IV.

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#27 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]

Umm hello, it's Grand Theft Auto, you can shoot people in the face with RPG's and slice their heads off with chainsaws.

MOCHIRON_MAN

But you don't have to do it with out reason. You don't do any of this with any less reason than Halo, Call of Duty or Gears of War. And there are no chainsaws in Grand Theft Auto IV.

You know what Grand Theft Auto is mainly about? Killing people. In every single last mission, there is someone you have to kill. What is so fun about driving cars that are rendered badly, running over people and it doesn't react realistically, and killing civilians that don't do anything? The game is pointless!

San Andreas is the best. because it isn't based in a city, like most other GTA's. And it has 2 player.

But back to GTA4, killing people without reason in a game is utterly retarded. but then again, its funny when they are trying to kill you. Like in GTA San Andreas, I steal a bike from a granny, she pulls out an RPG. I used the cheat for that.

So then I guess the multiplayer mode every single shooter is stupid since your not killing for a reason, right? It's just a game.

You also do nothing but kill in Halo, Gears and Call of Duty 4.

And Grad Theft Auto 4's single player never forces you to kill inocent civilians.

If you think vitrual killing is so terrible, why did you even get a 360? Get a Wii or somthing. Most of the 360's best games are all about commiting virtual murder with guns.

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#28 MOCHIRON_MAN
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[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"][QUOTE="vashkey"] But you don't have to do it with out reason. You don't do any of this with any less reason than Halo, Call of Duty or Gears of War. And there are no chainsaws in Grand Theft Auto IV.vashkey

You know what Grand Theft Auto is mainly about? Killing people. In every single last mission, there is someone you have to kill. What is so fun about driving cars that are rendered badly, running over people and it doesn't react realistically, and killing civilians that don't do anything? The game is pointless!

San Andreas is the best. because it isn't based in a city, like most other GTA's. And it has 2 player.

But back to GTA4, killing people without reason in a game is utterly retarded. but then again, its funny when they are trying to kill you. Like in GTA San Andreas, I steal a bike from a granny, she pulls out an RPG. I used the cheat for that.

So then I guess the multiplayer mode every single shooter is stupid since your not killing for a reason, right? It's just a game.

You also do nothing but kill in Halo, Gears and Call of Duty 4.

And Grad Theft Auto 4's single player never forces you to kill inocent civilians.

If you think vitrual killing is so terrible, why did you even get a 360? Get a Wii or somthing. Most of the 360's best games are all about commiting virtual murder with guns.

Lol, you say Grad Theft Auto, heh heh, think about it. But anyway, I don't have a 360 but a PS3 instead, but seeing as how this is about GTA4, I didn't even buy it. I watched alot of the gameplay stuff, and trailers, and whatnot. and I've played previous GTA's, and they're all the same. I only like San Andreas, not for the killing and stuff, but because of what you can do. The story line in CoD 4 is awesome, same with Gears 2 and Halo 3.

In war games, you shoot a civilian, you get chewed out by your allies. in GTA, you shoot a civilain, cops come for you, you shoot them. It's stupid. Nothing but killing! That is all GTA4 is about! Just killing! in the other games you mentioned, there's more to it then just killing. But in GTA, that's all you do. Kill, kill, kill. And then kill some more. I can't even belive Rockstar made a game like this! I support it being banned in some countries.

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#29 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]

You know what Grand Theft Auto is mainly about? Killing people. In every single last mission, there is someone you have to kill. What is so fun about driving cars that are rendered badly, running over people and it doesn't react realistically, and killing civilians that don't do anything? The game is pointless!

San Andreas is the best. because it isn't based in a city, like most other GTA's. And it has 2 player.

But back to GTA4, killing people without reason in a game is utterly retarded. but then again, its funny when they are trying to kill you. Like in GTA San Andreas, I steal a bike from a granny, she pulls out an RPG. I used the cheat for that.

MOCHIRON_MAN

So then I guess the multiplayer mode every single shooter is stupid since your not killing for a reason, right? It's just a game.

You also do nothing but kill in Halo, Gears and Call of Duty 4.

And Grad Theft Auto 4's single player never forces you to kill inocent civilians.

If you think vitrual killing is so terrible, why did you even get a 360? Get a Wii or somthing. Most of the 360's best games are all about commiting virtual murder with guns.

Lol, you say Grad Theft Auto, heh heh, think about it. But anyway, I don't have a 360 but a PS3 instead, but seeing as how this is about GTA4, I didn't even buy it. I watched alot of the gameplay stuff, and trailers, and whatnot. and I've played previous GTA's, and they're all the same. I only like San Andreas, not for the killing and stuff, but because of what you can do. The story line in CoD 4 is awesome, same with Gears 2 and Halo 3.

In war games, you shoot a civilian, you get chewed out by your allies. in GTA, you shoot a civilain, cops come for you, you shoot them. It's stupid. Nothing but killing! That is all GTA4 is about! Just killing! in the other games you mentioned, there's more to it then just killing. But in GTA, that's all you do. Kill, kill, kill. And then kill some more. I can't even belive Rockstar made a game like this! I support it being banned in some countries.

Actually theres more to the GTA4 than just killing, but like the other games, killing is how you progress through the game.

I'd actually argue that killing far less the focus of GTA 4 than it is in Gears, Halo and CoD4.

There are many missions you can complete and can only complete with out killing. And theres alot more things in general to do in GTA 4 that does not involve killing than those other shooters.

It shouldnt even need to be explained. GTA 4 is an Action adventure game. So naturally yeah, your going to do things other than shooting quite often. CoD4, Gear and Halo are shooters. So all you do is shoot living things.

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#30 Eski_Boi
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Do you know what I've realised about the game... so far I've done 14 missions and they've all me relativly easy..? I didnt think it would be possible to go 14 missions straight on a gta game without finiding atleast one thing tricky but yeah San Andreas is better, better storyline IMO
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#31 EyeShatteredSky
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I personally love the game! Not the revolutionary Next-Gen GTA game some had hoped for, but it's still a great one nevertheless. Not my favorite, but I definitely don't HATE it.
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#32 vashkey
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Regardless, muchlax and mochiron, the only reasons you provided as to why you dislike the game are based on morality rather than actual game design. You both said that you've only had a limited amount of experience with the actual game. I really don't think you guys can honestly say the game is of poor quality. You'd have just been best off saying that Grand Theft Auto 4 doesnt appear to be a game you'd enjoy based on what it's about rather than just saying it's not a good game.
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I love GTA IV
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#34 gamerfreak1991
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The camera angle when driving was very annoying to me when I first got it too. Once you get used to it though you find it's really a lot better than the previous GTA's. GTA IV's changes take about 1-2 hours to get used to, but as soon as you do, you realize in the end the game deserves it's rating.
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#35 nintendo_ds_06
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I thought GTA was a great game, it didn't live up to its hype but it is one of (if not the) best game on the 360. However the driving in the game is amongst the worst i have ever seen in a game
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#36 d-high29
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i dont get how so many ppl hate this game yet it still won video game of the year
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[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

So then I guess the multiplayer mode every single shooter is stupid since your not killing for a reason, right? It's just a game.

You also do nothing but kill in Halo, Gears and Call of Duty 4.

And Grad Theft Auto 4's single player never forces you to kill inocent civilians.

If you think vitrual killing is so terrible, why did you even get a 360? Get a Wii or somthing. Most of the 360's best games are all about commiting virtual murder with guns.

vashkey

Lol, you say Grad Theft Auto, heh heh, think about it. But anyway, I don't have a 360 but a PS3 instead, but seeing as how this is about GTA4, I didn't even buy it. I watched alot of the gameplay stuff, and trailers, and whatnot. and I've played previous GTA's, and they're all the same. I only like San Andreas, not for the killing and stuff, but because of what you can do. The story line in CoD 4 is awesome, same with Gears 2 and Halo 3.

In war games, you shoot a civilian, you get chewed out by your allies. in GTA, you shoot a civilain, cops come for you, you shoot them. It's stupid. Nothing but killing! That is all GTA4 is about! Just killing! in the other games you mentioned, there's more to it then just killing. But in GTA, that's all you do. Kill, kill, kill. And then kill some more. I can't even belive Rockstar made a game like this! I support it being banned in some countries.

Actually theres more to the GTA4 than just killing, but like the other games, killing is how you progress through the game.

I'd actually argue that killing far less the focus of GTA 4 than it is in Gears, Halo and CoD4.

There are many missions you can complete and can only complete with out killing. And theres alot more things in general to do in GTA 4 that does not involve killing than those other shooters.

It shouldnt even need to be explained. GTA 4 is an Action adventure game. So naturally yeah, your going to do things other than shooting quite often. CoD4, Gear and Halo are shooters. So all you do is shoot living things.

Yah, shoot living things that initially try to kill you.

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#38 ihaveabu
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i didn't think it was bad. i played through vice city and san andreas. (finished half of gta3). san andreas felt more like where saints row 2 sprouted from. san andreas = good story + random killfest. gta4 is going for the realism aspect, and it pulls that off way better than the previous gta games. euphoria, Rage, detailed (not necessarily realistic )version of NY, etc. is it fun to play? well, reality isn't that fun, so it's not as fun as flying around in your jetpack in SA and blowing stuff up. but i feel it is one of the only games that presents such a realistic portrayal of a large and busy city. it's convient that there's saints row 2 to feed your desire to kill stuff along with gta4 for the mature and serious gaming.
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]

Lol, you say Grad Theft Auto, heh heh, think about it. But anyway, I don't have a 360 but a PS3 instead, but seeing as how this is about GTA4, I didn't even buy it. I watched alot of the gameplay stuff, and trailers, and whatnot. and I've played previous GTA's, and they're all the same. I only like San Andreas, not for the killing and stuff, but because of what you can do. The story line in CoD 4 is awesome, same with Gears 2 and Halo 3.

In war games, you shoot a civilian, you get chewed out by your allies. in GTA, you shoot a civilain, cops come for you, you shoot them. It's stupid. Nothing but killing! That is all GTA4 is about! Just killing! in the other games you mentioned, there's more to it then just killing. But in GTA, that's all you do. Kill, kill, kill. And then kill some more. I can't even belive Rockstar made a game like this! I support it being banned in some countries.

MOCHIRON_MAN

Actually theres more to the GTA4 than just killing, but like the other games, killing is how you progress through the game.

I'd actually argue that killing far less the focus of GTA 4 than it is in Gears, Halo and CoD4.

There are many missions you can complete and can only complete with out killing. And theres alot more things in general to do in GTA 4 that does not involve killing than those other shooters.

It shouldnt even need to be explained. GTA 4 is an Action adventure game. So naturally yeah, your going to do things other than shooting quite often. CoD4, Gear and Halo are shooters. So all you do is shoot living things.

Yah, shoot living things that initially try to kill you.

Perhaps you should play a GTA game before you comment on it?

All you're doing here is making it abundantly clear you don't know what the game is about

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#40 diamond2d
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I dont' love it but i dont hate it, i did get bord of it after a week of playing it back on its release in April but picked itup for £20 a few days ago. Just a nother game for my collection i supose..
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#41 Lance_Kalzas
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personally i hate the game and i am wonering who else hates it!munchlax99
Hate is a pretty strong word and, after reading your few posts, I don't see how you've justified saying "I hate this game". You also haven't responded to vashkey's comments in a logical fashion. Please keep in mind your position or stance on a topic is significantly more believable when you use facts, logic and reason to support your case. Spouting opinion(s) does absolutely nothing.
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#42 iboo01
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personally i hate the game and i am wonering who else hates it!munchlax99
I hate it much more than you
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#43 Murj
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A lack of Chainsaws and Tanks didn't take anything away from GTA enough for me to hate it. I really, really like GTA4, it's one of the best games I've ever played. Those things add to a great package, but I didn't feel annoyed or disappointed that they weren't in the game. Plus GTAOnline to me was immense.

So all in all, in compliance with the poll, I love it.

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#44 D3dr0_0
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I didn't like GTA4 I wanted it to be more like San Andreas with better graphics and more option on customization, instead they took away things that made GTA great like tanks, chainsaw, katana, planes, etc. I wanted it to be as big as San Andreas and the ability to go into peoples houses.
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#45 Eski_Boi
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hmmmm is gta4 basically just liberty city no other islands..?
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#46 II-FBIsniper-II
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I love it, it is my favorite game of this generation.
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#47 Murj
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hmmmm is gta4 basically just liberty city no other islands..?Eski_Boi

If you want to be black and white about it then yes technically.

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#48 CardiacKid07
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love it
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#49 Eski_Boi
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Can someone answer my question please...

Is GTA IV not any bigger than it is at the start meaning theres no different island etc..?

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#50 awsss
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Only a sith deals an absolute.