Halo 3 Player Made Maps Are Unnoticed

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#1 Retroman47
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This is my bias opinion on the maps that make it into Bungie Favorites on Halo 3. A lot (but not all) of the maps are either race tracks or maps that are not as relevant to the game as they should be. The majority of amazing maps made by players go unnoticed, either because they are not race tracks or because the maker of the map is not known to Bungie. Your gamertag and ranking for matchmaking has more of an influence over your maps getting downloaded than the map itself. I, personally, hate race tracks. They destroy the point of Halo 3. Halo 3 is about playing fun game types, like Capture the Flag and Slayer, not going around and around on a race track. Can you play CTF on a race track? No. I have even seen maps that have made it into Halo 3 that have absolutely nothing to do with the game. There was a map called Optimus Prime, featuring a model of the transformer on Sandbox made out of blocks. THIS IS NOT A MAP. I have also seen maps that say "a great map for clan meets". What does this mean? Is this map like a table or something where you and your buddies can just talk? If that's what you want, open a private chat, don't download that. There is also this map on Longshore that has you jumping from lifeboat to lifeboat to make it to the end of the map. THIS IS ALSO NOT A MAP. Mazes are also stupid, and do not download those if your life depended on it.

I am posting this thread here for two reasons. One, if I posted this topic on the Bungie Forums, I would get banned faster than you could say "Banhammer". Second, many maps are going unnoticed if they are not race tracks, and I feel like I should do something about it. Screenshots get the most attention, but those are just pictures. Yeah, they can be cool, but maps and game types are what make Halo 3 a video game. There are a lot of maps that have made it into Bungie Favorites that are not race tracks, giant robots, or clan meeting maps, but still a lot of maps are neglected.

For example, the map "Epitel" by Noxiw has gone largely unnoticed in the Halo 3 world. This map is very well constructed, and features about fifty percent of Sandbox's mid level. I would recommend this map to anyone who loves Slayer and CTF. The map's structure extends into the sand, and has a very distinct elevation difference, perfect for One Flag game types. Each base has a turret facing a wall, so that they cannot be used without tearing them off. In the center, a catwalk extends to the elevated base on one side and extends to the lower one on the other. Several ramp-like structures can lead up to this catwalk, The lower base has a sender node leading straight underneath the elevated base, which still gives them the high ground advantage. This map would match the well-known "Utah Mambo" for best One Flag map. Unfortunately, this map has no fun vehicles to play around with, but would still be amazing for One Flag.

Another map that has been neglected by Bungie would be "Cobalt" by DoughBoyFresh54. This map has not been neglected by players as much; it had thirty people download it. Still, thirty people is not a lot in the Halo 3 community. This map is also on Sandbox, featuring the the level known as the "skybubble". It resembles a triangular structure with a platform in the center. On the platform there is one overshield, but below you will meet your doom. DoughBoyFresh54 has cleverly used upside-down scaffoldings to show spikes coming through the ground. Note that the spikes are below the grid, so you will die if you fall. This map only has six battle rifles for weapons, so the weapons that you spawn with are about all that you have. There are grenades. Traversing Cobalt was like traversing the upper level of Construct, but different because it has a smaller radius and is the lower level. You can go around and around the circle's two levels, sneaking up on opponents from behind, instead of passing through the center. This map would be a huge success in for Team Slayer, but could use more weapons.

Lastly, the map "Oasis" by Ark_Ywvia should definitely be in Bungie Favorites. The map is on Sandbox's mid section, and features a walled in area. Unlike most maps, this area's main bases, which are not really even bases but rather spawning locations, are not symmetrical. In the center of this map, there is a green grassy area with a rocket launcher. That should be the primary objective for your team: get the launcher, and use it against your enemies. Another cool feature to this map is that on the sides of the map, there are rooms and tunnels which can lead to excellent sniping locations and ways to avoid the center area of the map, where most o the conflict would be taking place in. I recommend Slayer for this map.

These are just a few examples of many, and you can download these maps from my file share. Add them to your file share and let's see how we can spread great Halo 3 maps around the community instead of race tracks. I was inspired to do this when I had a hard time getting some of my maps noticed by other players. I will continue to update this thread every now and again with players hard work here. Anyone else who wants to share their maps can do so on this thread as well. I hope people will now stop and take notice at someone else's work, other than their own.

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#2 Blackhawk692
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okay

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#3 painguy1
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blog it

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#4 Shniernan
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I can't think of one person that would disagree with you. And you are right, you'd get banned SO fast. I feel bad for you, but hey, you nor I can do anything. Good luck, and if you do end up starting something, let me in on it.

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#5 zeppelin_64
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Cool opinion. But we don't care about it. Least I don't. I disagree with you saying you have to be known by Bungie or make a race track. That's just ignorant.
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#6 phynixblack
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None of the Bungie favorites are picked by Bungie these days. They find it faster and easier to 'Award' bungie favorites to popular and active groups. For instance, one of the groups I am a part of, OTK (Owners of the Katana) gets it almost BiMonthly. They all get together and active members put up their maps and such to be voted on by the rest of the group. If you don't believe me, you are more then welcome to FIND the OTK group through teh group search feature on the Bungie website and ask there. I will either answer you THERE or one of god knows how many other active members will answer. If you want to be on Bungie favs, you have to find an active group, then convince them to give you the attention you deserve.
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#7 LostSoul781
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Player made maps are usually garbage.

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#9 guitardude1243
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I personally don't play Halo that much anymore, but the maps they had available for download were usually cool INCLUDING the race track maps.

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#10 Niko-
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The majority of the maps by players go unnoticed but then again big deal, some of the worst maps I've ever played were on Bungie Day '09.

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#11 Bangerman15
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update: halo is old newsRemora133

how is the most played xbl game for 2008 and 2009 old news??

and to the person who said player made maps are garbage i actually find them quite entertaining, the grifball maps with twists and sandbox maps are pretty awesome, and i forgot the match type they usually have on double exp weekends where it's just custom made maps and they are all lots of fun, i play those more than team slayer or lone wolves when that game type is up

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#12 vashkey
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The only way you can use the maps you download from Bungie favorite is in custom games or Forge. So you can use the maps such as the race tracks, mazes and statues as they were intended. Simply because you don't find any use for them doesn't mean that other people wont. Bungie employees have jobs, families and lives to attend to. They don't have the man power or time to wade to all the files in Halo 3 to find what you personally consider the best nor is it worth their time. Bungie stopped personally updating their favorites on their own years ago. After tons of complaining by the fans that they weren't putting the best stuff up they finally stopped putting up with it and started letting groups from the Halo community decide what to put up. So now the community has no one to complain about but themselves. Also, your post was needlessly long. You could have easily expessed your feeling within a paragragh or two. I simply skimmed.
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#13 Retroman47
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Player made maps are usually garbage.

LostSoul781

Many of them are, but not all of them. There are some very good maps, but even the good ones get old. The skybubble crescent shaped maps are commonly found, along with maps like Utah Mambo where the structure extends into the sand.

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you know what makes halo so great? because it fits everyone. you can goof off or you can play hardcore. Also dude bungie can't hire people just to go download 100's of maps and view them just to please the people who looks at the favorites. they might look at top downloaded or people snuggest them
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#15 Retroman47
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you know what makes halo so great? because it fits everyone. you can goof off or you can play hardcore. Also dude bungie can't hire people just to go download 100's of maps and view them just to please the people who looks at the favorites. they might look at top downloaded or people snuggest them k2theswiss

I know that Bungie cannot hire hundreds of people to do that. That is what I am doing! I am advertising other players maps on my file share to help get their hard work recognized every now and again. I want this topic to be a place where people can share what they have made and review player made maps, maybe even download and play a few. I will continue to post maps made by players here to get their work recognized, maybe not by Bungie, but at least by everyone who reads this topic.

Does that make sense to the majority of gamers here?