Yeah, I'd love to see a Halo 4, and I'm honestly a little suspicious of this whole Reach thing. I know we don't know all the details yet, but playing through a story where you already know the ending seems a little...lame? I'd rather Bungie came up with a new story ark for Master Chief than go back in time. I wouldn't be oppossed if they discarded the chief and introduced a new main character so long as they went forward and not back. I'm still really excited about Reach and will definitely pick it up, but I'm a big fan of the Halo series and I'm not sure if this is the best direction for Bungie to take it.
Yeah, I'd love to see a Halo 4, and I'm honestly a little suspicious of this whole Reach thing. I know we don't know all the details yet, but playing through a story where you already know the ending seems a little...lame? I'd rather Bungie came up with a new story ark for Master Chief than go back in time. I wouldn't be oppossed if they discarded the chief and introduced a new main character so long as they went forward and not back. I'm still really excited about Reach and will definitely pick it up, but I'm a big fan of the Halo series and I'm not sure if this is the best direction for Bungie to take it.
magdalene1
Im actually pretty excited about the reach game, i read the book, and it was pretty intense. If you we do get to play as chief in Reach, the one thing I really wish for is that they continue to not show his face. i like the mystery it adds to the person
Yeah, I'd love to see a Halo 4, and I'm honestly a little suspicious of this whole Reach thing. I know we don't know all the details yet, but playing through a story where you already know the ending seems a little...lame? I'd rather Bungie came up with a new story ark for Master Chief than go back in time. I wouldn't be oppossed if they discarded the chief and introduced a new main character so long as they went forward and not back. I'm still really excited about Reach and will definitely pick it up, but I'm a big fan of the Halo series and I'm not sure if this is the best direction for Bungie to take it.
FadeToBlack90
Im actually pretty excited about the reach game, i read the book, and it was pretty intense. If you we do get to play as chief in Reach, the one thing I really wish for is that they continue to not show his face. i like the mystery it adds to the person
I agree with you about not wanting to see Master Chief's face. Finding out that he looks like your neighbor in the apartment down the hall would be...disheartening.
i don't think they can actually put a face on master chief, seems impossible lol its just hard to find that perfect face for a person that is always behind masks
Then don't buy it? I would enjoy seeing another one. Why would it bother people if another Halo is made? Is it truly that hard to you know not care? I doubt anyone forces you to buy Halo.
Yeah, I'd love to see a Halo 4, and I'm honestly a little suspicious of this whole Reach thing. I know we don't know all the details yet
magdalene1
Speak for your self I've read the books. I have to add they were poorly written, I've read enough books sci-fi and not, to say this. Halo4 will be Bungie's Marathon. Seriously, read up on Marathon. Main character... 7ft tall cyborg, what armor does he ware... Mjolnir. Marathans like 200yrs after H3.
Then don't buy it? I would enjoy seeing another one. Why would it bother people if another Halo is made? Is it truly that hard to you know not care? I doubt anyone forces you to buy Halo.
wasnt gonna by another one. but dont get me wrong i loved the 3 halo games and still play the mp once in awhile. but i think there beating the series down with halo wars, odst, reach, and what ever else they make up.
We had a several post long debate yesterday about how Halo: Reach IS "Halo 4" because a sequel can be the next in the numerical progression of games (see Metal Gear Solid 3, Devil May Cry 3, and more). So you should be asking about a Halo 5. ODST is an expansion and Halo Wars is a spin off in a different genre. Reach is going to be Halo 4, same as CoD:WaW is CoD5
No. Milking a sires only makes it crap. Bungie should work on something else.
webbut
Please explain how Bungie is "milking" the series. When you say this, the extremely long list of Final Fantasy, Mario, Zelda and multiple other series comes to mind. Halo has 4 games released since 2001 and you call it milking. Next year, it'll be 6 games in 9 years.....Milking? I think not.
No. Milking a sires only makes it crap. Bungie should work on something else.
Please explain how Bungie is "milking" the series. When you say this, the extremely long list of Final Fantasy, Mario, Zelda and multiple other series comes to mind. Halo has 4 games released since 2001 and you call it milking. Next year, it'll be 6 games in 9 years.....Milking? I think not. No that's still milking. Final Fantasy isn't milking because it's a different story every time. Other than the common name, almost none of the games have been the same (they made X-2 and a bunch of things based on 7). I'll agree with you about Mario and Zelda though but that's Nintendo's bread and butter. On top of that, they innovate those games and switch things up to make for a different experience. Halo has been the same thing for 8 years, save a graphic bump to the 360. I don't count Halo Wars, but ODST is the exact same thing. Reach is going to have to be significantly different for me to say they're not milking it with that game.
[QUOTE="magdalene1"] read up on Marathon. Main character... 7ft tall cyborg, what armor does he ware... Mjolnir. Marathans like 200yrs after H3.SEANSEXYUNDIES
he's right on the money, that's what ive been thinking since halo 2.
Now that's something I could get behind. 7ft tall cyborgs seem like they'd be cool. But the story isn't what I'm worried about. I don't play Halo mainly for the story like I do Mass Effect or Bioshock. I play it for fast paced and fun gameplay and a sweet multiplayer. I'd liek to see them mix it up and do something different with it.
No. Milking a sires only makes it crap. Bungie should work on something else.
CNUrGames
Please explain how Bungie is "milking" the series. When you say this, the extremely long list of Final Fantasy, Mario, Zelda and multiple other series comes to mind. Halo has 4 games released since 2001 and you call it milking. Next year, it'll be 6 games in 9 years.....Milking? I think not. No that's still milking. Final Fantasy isn't milking because it's a different story every time. Other than the common name, almost none of the games have been the same (they made X-2 and a bunch of things based on 7). I'll agree with you about Mario and Zelda though but that's Nintendo's bread and butter. On top of that, they innovate those games and switch things up to make for a different experience. Halo has been the same thing for 8 years, save a graphic bump to the 360. I don't count Halo Wars, but ODST is the exact same thing. Reach is going to have to be significantly different for me to say they're not milking it with that game. No matter what you might think, 6 games in 9 years is not milking. Saying that doesn't make sense, logically or otherwise.
[QUOTE="CNUrGames"][QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"] Please explain how Bungie is "milking" the series. When you say this, the extremely long list of Final Fantasy, Mario, Zelda and multiple other series comes to mind. Halo has 4 games released since 2001 and you call it milking. Next year, it'll be 6 games in 9 years.....Milking? I think not.Lance_Kalzas
No that's still milking. Final Fantasy isn't milking because it's a different story every time. Other than the common name, almost none of the games have been the same (they made X-2 and a bunch of things based on 7). I'll agree with you about Mario and Zelda though but that's Nintendo's bread and butter. On top of that, they innovate those games and switch things up to make for a different experience. Halo has been the same thing for 8 years, save a graphic bump to the 360. I don't count Halo Wars, but ODST is the exact same thing. Reach is going to have to be significantly different for me to say they're not milking it with that game. No matter what you might think, 6 games in 9 years is not milking. Saying that doesn't make sense, logically or otherwise.
I think they are milking the engine and the setup because the game hasn't changed significantly since it was released again except for the graphics and taking the zoom out of the pistol. If they were making strides in the genre as far as game play and innovation, I'd be on your side, but they're milking the same system over and over again.
[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"][QUOTE="CNUrGames"] No that's still milking. Final Fantasy isn't milking because it's a different story every time. Other than the common name, almost none of the games have been the same (they made X-2 and a bunch of things based on 7). I'll agree with you about Mario and Zelda though but that's Nintendo's bread and butter. On top of that, they innovate those games and switch things up to make for a different experience. Halo has been the same thing for 8 years, save a graphic bump to the 360. I don't count Halo Wars, but ODST is the exact same thing. Reach is going to have to be significantly different for me to say they're not milking it with that game.CNUrGames
No matter what you might think, 6 games in 9 years is not milking. Saying that doesn't make sense, logically or otherwise.
I think they are milking the engine and the setup because the game hasn't changed significantly since it was released again except for the graphics and taking the zoom out of the pistol. If they were making strides in the genre as far as game play and innovation, I'd be on your side, but they're milking the same system over and over again.
changing halo gameplay would ruin it, adding some new stuff that could work out then yeah(items such as bubbleshields as an example only appeared in halo3). And while odst uses the halo3 engine, Reach wont and they already said that the mp exp would be different this time(reach).
[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"] No matter what you might think, 6 games in 9 years is not milking. Saying that doesn't make sense, logically or otherwise.gow117
I think they are milking the engine and the setup because the game hasn't changed significantly since it was released again except for the graphics and taking the zoom out of the pistol. If they were making strides in the genre as far as game play and innovation, I'd be on your side, but they're milking the same system over and over again.
changing halo gameplay would ruin it, adding some new stuff that could work out then yeah(items such as bubbleshields as an example only appeared in halo3). And while odst uses the halo3 engine, Reach wont and they already said that the mp exp would be different this time(reach).
gow I love getting into these discussions with you :P I hope that Reach innovates a lot. I think the series could benefit significantly from that kind of thing. I'm interested in what happens here. The universe they created for Halo is very interesting and fun to play in, but the way you play in it is getting played out.
I think they are milking the engine and the setup because the game hasn't changed significantly since it was released again except for the graphics and taking the zoom out of the pistol. If they were making strides in the genre as far as game play and innovation, I'd be on your side, but they're milking the same system over and over again.
CNUrGames
changing halo gameplay would ruin it, adding some new stuff that could work out then yeah(items such as bubbleshields as an example only appeared in halo3). And while odst uses the halo3 engine, Reach wont and they already said that the mp exp would be different this time(reach).
gow I love getting into these discussions with you :P I hope that Reach innovates a lot. I think the series could benefit significantly from that kind of thing. I'm interested in what happens here. The universe they created for Halo is very interesting and fun to play in, but the way you play in it is getting played out.
a new graphics engine is needed, yes. new gameplay mechanics? well i agree that it needs some tweaks here and there but not pushing it too far, otherwise we would have a not so epic mp like in halo2/3.Telling the story before CE is exciting and i cant wait to see whats going to happen and the only thing that got me this days was that the president of bungie said that natal could work with reach, damn was i scared, even though it wasnt confirmed i got really pissed but thought about that beta that comes out nexy year or so...natal wont be there, so how could we play it? Natal, you can get wherever you want, but dont take my 360 controller away from halo, you can be there but just as an option. One last thing: bungie started working on reach even before odst, so i imagine that some changes will occur.
changing halo gameplay would ruin it, adding some new stuff that could work out then yeah(items such as bubbleshields as an example only appeared in halo3). And while odst uses the halo3 engine, Reach wont and they already said that the mp exp would be different this time(reach).gow117
gow I love getting into these discussions with you :P I hope that Reach innovates a lot. I think the series could benefit significantly from that kind of thing. I'm interested in what happens here. The universe they created for Halo is very interesting and fun to play in, but the way you play in it is getting played out.
a new graphics engine is needed, yes. new gameplay mechanics? well i agree that it needs some tweaks here and there but not pushing it too far, otherwise we would have a not so epic mp like in halo2/3.Telling the story before CE is exciting and i cant wait to see whats going to happen and the only thing that got me this days was that the president of bungie said that natal could work with reach, damn was i scared, even though it wasnt confirmed i got really pissed but thought about that beta that comes out nexy year or so...natal wont be there, so how could we play it? Natal, you can get wherever you want, but dont take my 360 controller away from halo, you can be there but just as an option. One last thing: bungie started working on reach even before odst, so i imagine that some changes will occur. Good information. It's possible that Natal would work with it in the sense that they'll probably integrate it for voice chat, putting your face in the game. Maybe when you're going through the single player, if you have it, characters will react to you based on your facial expressions. There's probably a lot of things they could do with it but I doubt that Natal would affect multiplayer much, nor would not having it make the game unplayable because that would alienate people who hadn't gotten Natal yet.
gow I love getting into these discussions with you :P I hope that Reach innovates a lot. I think the series could benefit significantly from that kind of thing. I'm interested in what happens here. The universe they created for Halo is very interesting and fun to play in, but the way you play in it is getting played out.
a new graphics engine is needed, yes. new gameplay mechanics? well i agree that it needs some tweaks here and there but not pushing it too far, otherwise we would have a not so epic mp like in halo2/3.Telling the story before CE is exciting and i cant wait to see whats going to happen and the only thing that got me this days was that the president of bungie said that natal could work with reach, damn was i scared, even though it wasnt confirmed i got really pissed but thought about that beta that comes out nexy year or so...natal wont be there, so how could we play it? Natal, you can get wherever you want, but dont take my 360 controller away from halo, you can be there but just as an option. One last thing: bungie started working on reach even before odst, so i imagine that some changes will occur. Good information. It's possible that Natal would work with it in the sense that they'll probably integrate it for voice chat, putting your face in the game. Maybe when you're going through the single player, if you have it, characters will react to you based on your facial expressions. There's probably a lot of things they could do with it but I doubt that Natal would affect multiplayer much, nor would not having it make the game unplayable because that would alienate people who hadn't gotten Natal yet. Natal gotta be sold, ofc thats its purpose and to provide new experiences to everyone or not. Now, having Reach with Natal would suck to most players and halo fans, dont get me wrong, natal looks good but im not into that kind of things and the price is yet to be announced. I dont believe Reach will be a Natal exclusive, its an fps afterall, how would the mp work? And forcing everyone to buy it just to play reach doesnt sound right, yeah like they care :P But like you said, it could be implemented in some special ocasions but it needs to be optional. Microsoft wants money but they arent stupid, natal+a halo game=lots of sales for natal but would reach sell as good as previous halo titles? and fans would go crazy over this. Bungie already said that they only make games that they love to play, im not seeing their whole studio dancing in front of the tv :P optional is the best OPTION ;)
If it follows the novels, then it will be pretty sweet, M.C. was busy on the first Halo ring while most of the events on Reach were taking place, then MC comes back to Reach to help the other spartans. I think it would be interesting to play as Fred and have a squad of Spartans to command.
As far as story continuity it will most likely open the door for more Halo sequals that follow a different story arc than the first three Halo games.
If it follows the novels, then it will be pretty sweet, M.C. was busy on the first Halo ring while most of the events on Reach were taking place, then MC comes back to Reach to help the other spartans. I think it would be interesting to play as Fred and have a squad of Spartans to command.
As far as story continuity it will most likely open the door for more Halo sequals that follow a different story arc than the first three Halo games.
When you start bringing in novels you go WAY past what I know but I appreciate your dedication and ideas
I'd like there to be one, only because the story felt unfinished at the end of 3, only because we know Master Chief was still alive and floating towards some mysterious planet. Interested to see what happens, if anything.
No. Milking a sires only makes it crap. Bungie should work on something else.
Lance_Kalzas
Please explain how Bungie is "milking" the series. When you say this, the extremely long list of Final Fantasy, Mario, Zelda and multiple other series comes to mind. Halo has 4 games released since 2001 and you call it milking. Next year, it'll be 6 games in 9 years.....Milking? I think not. Lance_Kalzas is right take a look back Mario's first game was waay back in the 80's look at it now its 2009 and still the same crap. Three words FINAL FANTASY THIRTEEN. Thirteen? and we are only talkin about 4. Comment 2) [QUOTE="CNUrGames"][QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"][QUOTE="webbut"]
No. Milking a sires only makes it crap. Bungie should work on something else.
Please explain how Bungie is "milking" the series. When you say this, the extremely long list of Final Fantasy, Mario, Zelda and multiple other series comes to mind. Halo has 4 games released since 2001 and you call it milking. Next year, it'll be 6 games in 9 years.....Milking? I think not. No that's still milking. Final Fantasy isn't milking because it's a different story every time. Other than the common name, almost none of the games have been the same (they made X-2 and a bunch of things based on 7). I'll agree with you about Mario and Zelda though but that's Nintendo's bread and butter. On top of that, they innovate those games and switch things up to make for a different experience. Halo has been the same thing for 8 years, save a graphic bump to the 360. I don't count Halo Wars, but ODST is the exact same thing. Reach is going to have to be significantly different for me to say they're not milking it with that game. I understand you CNUrGames about halo wars not counting because it was a totally new experience for halo fans but i don't get wut ur sayin about ODST its a COMPLETELY NEW STORY-LINE look you are a orbital drop shock trooper looking to find the where-abouts of your missing team you call that the same story-line i think not!!! Comment 3)
[QUOTE="CNUrGames"]
[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"][QUOTE="CNUrGames"] No that's still milking. Final Fantasy isn't milking because it's a different story every time. Other than the common name, almost none of the games have been the same (they made X-2 and a bunch of things based on 7). I'll agree with you about Mario and Zelda though but that's Nintendo's bread and butter. On top of that, they innovate those games and switch things up to make for a different experience. Halo has been the same thing for 8 years, save a graphic bump to the 360. I don't count Halo Wars, but ODST is the exact same thing. Reach is going to have to be significantly different for me to say they're not milking it with that game.gow117
No matter what you might think, 6 games in 9 years is not milking. Saying that doesn't make sense, logically or otherwise.
I think they are milking the engine and the setup because the game hasn't changed significantly since it was released again except for the graphics and taking the zoom out of the pistol. If they were making strides in the genre as far as game play and innovation, I'd be on your side, but they're milking the same system over and over again.
changing halo gameplay would ruin it, adding some new stuff that could work out then yeah(items such as bubbleshields as an example only appeared in halo3). And while odst uses the halo3 engine, Reach wont and they already said that the mp exp would be different this time(reach). I AGREE with you gow117 CNUrGames you're basically saying things have gotten worste actually better Xbox Lie Gameplay Different weapons and what gow is saying is true gameplay is different each game and different engines so yeah hes right. and there it is people please continue to leave posts on my forum Thank You!
bungie needs to make a new game outside of halo series halo is garbage Flamingpostman
Thank you for sharing your opinion but not everyone thinks this way. Bungie has repeatedly stated they love the Halo series hence that's probably the reason they're STILL working on Halo games. Kind of funny how that works, huh?
i agree with flamingpostman, their limiting themselves as a company, and are just known as the ones who made halo. they need to try something new, take some risks
[QUOTE="youngsinatra25"] read up on Marathon. Main character... 7ft tall cyborg, what armor does he ware... Mjolnir. Marathans like 200yrs after H3.SEANSEXYUNDIES
he's right on the money, that's what ive been thinking since halo 2.
My quote! Trying to give my thunder to someone else huh...
@GAMEWIZ21 I'm not going to quote all of that because this post would be a page long. To address your issues, Halo 3:ODST was originally considered an expansion to Halo 3 and I think in Microsoft and Bungie's mind it still is. They're including the Halo 3 multiplayer experience with it with a new mode and then adding story missions. Yes it is going to be a new story arc but they called it an expansion themselves. I'm not really saying Halo has gotten worse and I'm sorry if that's how it came off, I'm just saying that Halo is the same. Multiplayer has seen some fun tweeks and that's why I still own Halo 3 to this day, but there has been no significant innovation in the Halo series. When Call of Duty 4 came out, it was changing the way the series worked and innovating the multiplayer and it has been incredibly successfuly. I'd just like to see the Halo: Reach beta and multiplayer introduce us to something new and fun. Firefight will give us a taste of that, similar to Gears 2's Horde mode and that's a good step, but I want to see Reach bring out a new system as a whole. I would never say that Halo's multiplayer has gotten worse because the match making there is really good, quick and balanced.
@GAMEWIZ21 I'm not going to quote all of that because this post would be a page long. To address your issues, Halo 3:ODST was originally considered an expansion to Halo 3 and I think in Microsoft and Bungie's mind it still is. They're including the Halo 3 multiplayer experience with it with a new mode and then adding story missions. Yes it is going to be a new story arc but they called it an expansion themselves. I'm not really saying Halo has gotten worse and I'm sorry if that's how it came off, I'm just saying that Halo is the same. Multiplayer has seen some fun tweeks and that's why I still own Halo 3 to this day, but there has been no significant innovation in the Halo series. When Call of Duty 4 came out, it was changing the way the series worked and innovating the multiplayer and it has been incredibly successfuly. I'd just like to see the Halo: Reach beta and multiplayer introduce us to something new and fun. Firefight will give us a taste of that, similar to Gears 2's Horde mode and that's a good step, but I want to see Reach bring out a new system as a whole. I would never say that Halo's multiplayer has gotten worse because the match making there is really good, quick and balanced. CNUrGames
I'm not saying you're wrong about Halo 3: ODST being called an expansion by Bungie and Microsoft because they did....at first. Recently they released a statement justifying (in their mind only I'm sure) that the scope of ODST has moved far beyond an expansion to a full retail game status. Including the Halo 3 MP, FireFight, 3 new maps plus a campaign that is supposedly now as long as Halo 3's could, if only potentially, justify it. Quite honestly we will have to wait until it comes out before making any kind of judgment calls.
[QUOTE="Flamingpostman"]bungie needs to make a new game outside of halo series halo is garbage gow117
at least elaborate. Doubt he will.
i agree with flamingpostman, their limiting themselves as a company, and are just known as the ones who made halo. they need to try something new, take some risks
megamadman5
And what has Infinity Ward been doing? CoD, CoD 2, CoD 4 and now Modern Warfare 2. Seems like they're at the same exact pace with Bungie in making FPS's. But we don't hear much complaining about them. Heck, Bungie also made Oni, Myth, and Marathon series.
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