Halo ODST is going to be a letdown

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#1 RDG_NHL
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Dont get me wrong, the gameplay footage looks amazing, but, it lacks in the online category. The online being the same as Halo 3's with just some added 3 maps and the original DLC? I have kept up with my Halo 3 playing and am about to get the Mythic Maps. So, all I would be getting Halo ODST for is the story and Firefight, and I am not willing to spend 60$ to buy a game that I can beat in a couple of days. A rental would be all I needed to get the most out of the game.
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#2 DEATH775
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Ok. But I'm still going to get it.
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#3 Xeros606
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eh, im still buying it. i do kind of agree with you, i expected the multiplayer to be something new at least (a tactical shooter set in the halo universe would have been cool). ill still be getting 9 new maps since i didnt get any of the dlc thats not free. and itll be more like $50 for me since im trading in halo 3 for it.

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#4 shaddix55
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You did NOT just say that...
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#5 shaddix55
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Dude.. they call it an expansion for a reason too. It's not supposed to be a brand new IP. It's an expansion/spinoff from Halo 3. Notice the Halo 3 still in the title? Wait for Halo Reach to come out cause that will have many new things.
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#6 WeaponXY
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....so?

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#7 AtomicAdio2
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Dude.. they call it an expansion for a reason too. It's not supposed to be a brand new IP. It's an expansion/spinoff from Halo 3. Notice the Halo 3 still in the title? Wait for Halo Reach to come out cause that will have many new things.shaddix55
You took the words right out of my keyboard. I suggested this somewhere before (might have been on B.NET), since there is a Reach online beta. That SURELY means theres NEW online features. Otherwise its an online map test.
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#8 RDG_NHL
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[QUOTE="shaddix55"]Dude.. they call it an expansion for a reason too. It's not supposed to be a brand new IP. It's an expansion/spinoff from Halo 3. Notice the Halo 3 still in the title? Wait for Halo Reach to come out cause that will have many new things.AtomicAdio2
You took the words right out of my keyboard. I suggested this somewhere before (might have been on B.NET), since there is a Reach online beta. That SURELY means theres NEW online features. Otherwise its an online map test.

If it is just an expansion, hopefully it will have a lower price tag then $60. Also, the Halo Reach beta does come with the game, but , I don't think that I should spend my money on game that all I (Personally) get out of it, is a Campaign and a multiplayer beta.
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#9 AtomicAdio2
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True,True. I guess it is priced high because of the 24 maps bundled with it. I personally thought FireFight would have been on the MULTIPLAYER disc so people don't have to swap discs 24/7.
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#10 R7_3
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I don't care what you do, but i'm buying it :P

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#11 AtomicAdio2
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Same dude, I'm a huge Halo fan and have been since before the first game came out (books and all). Doesn't matter how many they release, I will play it. And I seen on Xbox dashboard video Dan (from Inside Xbox) asks Joe Staton: "Do we meet master chief in this game at all?" (or something along those lines) and Joe is trying to hide something, so I think you meet MC :] I'd personally love a sequel to Halo 3 though, I want to know what happens in the very end!
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#13 AtomicAdio2
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Yeah, so true with Forge and all the possibilities in custom games. Problem is, most people who play other games are too stuborn to admit that H3 MP is good.
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#15 AtomicAdio2
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Thats my point. People don't even give it a try, just rip it too shreds form what others say. In my games design class at college, only 2 people like halo 3 (including me) and when I asked them to play when we got a 360 in for a while, they were like "no I suck at that game, so I don't play it". Lame reason not too like a whole game, get better :)
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#16 konradak
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I don't think it'll be a let down. I'm looking at it as an expansion instead of a whole new game. As an expansion I think it'll do well, and this Firefight (Horde lol) mode looks like a lot of fun and what I've been looking for for a while. I'm hoping you can Forge the Firefight maps, that would be sweet. Also, I don't remember, will there be Co-op in this one?

Plus the Halo Reach beta is an obvious reason to get this, I'm excited to find out what type of gameplay it'll be. I loved Halo The Fall of Reach, the best book out of the series imho so I want to see what they do with this.

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#17 AtomicAdio2
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I'm with you. Forging firefight = win.
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Dude.. they call it an expansion for a reason too. It's not supposed to be a brand new IP. It's an expansion/spinoff from Halo 3. Notice the Halo 3 still in the title? Wait for Halo Reach to come out cause that will have many new things.shaddix55
At $60 it is not just an expansion. Either that or Bungie is ripping us off.
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#19 AtomicAdio2
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Unfortunatley, Microsoft do the pricing, not Bungie. It's published by MS and set by MS. As is DLC.
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#20 jamejame
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Wait... $60? I thought it was $30 or $40? :?

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#21 AtomicAdio2
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Yeah dude, aparantly its full priced. Have to admit, the limited edition is cool with an ODST style wireless controller.
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#22 deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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I'm just viewing it as sort of an expansion. It'll be a good seque into Reach.
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#23 gatsbythepig
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Unfortunatley, Microsoft do the pricing, not Bungie. It's published by MS and set by MS. As is DLC.AtomicAdio2
I have to say, that doesn't sound right. This is not DLC and isn't anything like DLC, so why would M$ have control over the price? Link?
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#24 AtomicAdio2
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Edit for better explination: Bungie are a Game Development Studio. Microsoft Game Studios are a publisher. Bungie get paid a certain amount of money from MSGS to create a game etc. Once the game is done and MSGS approves that it is up to the standard they paid for, it will be ready to be shipped. Now the publisher (in this case MSGS) have control over the whole marketing side of the game, they promote the game (Bungie can do this too, but it is MSGS job to actually do it). They do much more too. One main job the publisher has is sales, they take in much information and come up with a price that the game will be sold for in retail stores. Unfortunatley, as much as Bungie would like to put this game at a lower price, as they wanted some DLC to be free or much lower priced (e.g. 500MS points so MS didnt make us have to buy 1000MS points to get the maps, clever trick). For example, they got Cold Storage to be free, but MS nearly made them put a price on it, even though it was a "thank you" map. The main point is, Bungie are a developing studio, and MSGS are the publishers, they control the prices.
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#25 jamejame
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Yeah dude, aparantly its full priced. Have to admit, the limited edition is cool with an ODST style wireless controller.AtomicAdio2
Ridiculous. I have to admit it looks cool, I was psyched for it. Firefight, and a short,original, not halo-style campaign... but for $60? :|

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Yeah, so true with Forge and all the possibilities in custom games. Problem is, most people who play other games are too stuborn to admit that H3 MP is good.AtomicAdio2
thats just because of the content, not everyone likes sci fi.
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#27 AtomicAdio2
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Its the most one of the msot customizable games so far.

Thats what I was pointing out.

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[QUOTE="AtomicAdio2"]Yeah dude, aparantly its full priced. Have to admit, the limited edition is cool with an ODST style wireless controller.jamejame

Ridiculous. I have to admit it looks cool, I was psyched for it. Firefight, and a short,original, not halo-style campaign... but for $60? :|

Its $60 because they know people will buy it regardless pf price.

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#29 InjuredStraw
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I'm buying it. :)

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#30 HappyAppe
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Damn, I didn't realize it was going to be $60. Going to have to think this over more now. I thought it was going to be $40, which seems more fair for a 5-6 hour campaign and that firefight multiplayer/new Halo 3 maps. And yeah, I heard the entire campaign can be played through Co-Op which is pretty sweet. The gameplay videos over at Gametrailers.com looks pretty awesome.
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#31 shaddix55
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It's pretty simple, guys. If you really like what you see, you'll buy it regardless of the price. I know I'm buying it. But for those of you who say "oh Halo is awesome.. oh wait, it's going to be $60?! nevermind.." Then don't say anything.. because if you spent your money on the other Halo games(and we all know how bad Halo 2 was) then you'll buy this one, too, regardless of the price tag.
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#32 aliasfreak
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[QUOTE="AtomicAdio2"][QUOTE="shaddix55"]Dude.. they call it an expansion for a reason too. It's not supposed to be a brand new IP. It's an expansion/spinoff from Halo 3. Notice the Halo 3 still in the title? Wait for Halo Reach to come out cause that will have many new things.RDG_NHL
You took the words right out of my keyboard. I suggested this somewhere before (might have been on B.NET), since there is a Reach online beta. That SURELY means theres NEW online features. Otherwise its an online map test.

I don't think that I should spend my money on game that all I (Personally) get out of it, is a Campaign

That is all I want out of the game, personally. Well worth $60 to me.

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#33 deactivated-64b76bd048860
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I'm still going to get it, despite it being 60 dollars.

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#34 RDG_NHL
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It's pretty simple, guys. If you really like what you see, you'll buy it regardless of the price. I know I'm buying it. But for those of you who say "oh Halo is awesome.. oh wait, it's going to be $60?! nevermind.." Then don't say anything.. because if you spent your money on the other Halo games(and we all know how bad Halo 2 was) then you'll buy this one, too, regardless of the price tag.shaddix55
I'm not saying that I'm avoiding it entirely. If it is $20-30 then I will seriously consider buying the game. Otherwise, I'm am going to rent the game or borrow it from someone. I just don't think that I should spend all the money on a campaign when all I mainly do is play online after a couple days of playing campaign.
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#35 HappyAppe
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[QUOTE="shaddix55"]It's pretty simple, guys. If you really like what you see, you'll buy it regardless of the price. I know I'm buying it. But for those of you who say "oh Halo is awesome.. oh wait, it's going to be $60?! nevermind.." Then don't say anything.. because if you spent your money on the other Halo games(and we all know how bad Halo 2 was) then you'll buy this one, too, regardless of the price tag.RDG_NHL
I'm not saying that I'm avoiding it entirely. If it is $20-30 then I will seriously consider buying the game. Otherwise, I'm am going to rent the game or borrow it from someone. I just don't think that I should spend all the money on a campaign when all I mainly do is play online after a couple days of playing campaign.

Agreed. I've bought every single Halo game for $60, because it was worth the price. The value was there. An "expansion" shouldn't cost the same as a full game. Just because I love the Halo franchise doesn't mean I'm going to be a mindless sheep and buy whatever Bungie dishes out.
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Unfortunatley, as much as Bungie would like to put this game at a lower price, as they wanted some DLC to be free or much lower priced (e.g. 500MS points so MS didnt make us have to buy 1000MS points to get the maps, clever trick). For example, they got Cold Storage to be free, but MS nearly made them put a price on it, even though it was a "thank you" map. The main point is, Bungie are a developing studio, and MSGS are the publishers, they control the prices.AtomicAdio2

well said. I have to constantly tell people Bungie has nothing to do with prices. after that note I hope Halo reach will have a cover system.

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#37 shaddix55
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I'm hoping Halo Reach is going to be Gears of War style and third person with the cover system. That would be an interesting take on Halo.
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I think you're forgetting one key detail--It's an expansion! Unless you go into the game expecting it to be a sequel with tons of additions, ODST shouldn't be a let down. Just look at it like it is. ODST is just an expansion with a couple of cheap new weapons and features to keep you entertained. Also, ODST will not be a $60 purchase. I think Bungie said $30.I think ODST will be worth a pick up (only if you like Halo 3 obviously) because it launches before the rest of 09 premiere titles and Halo is always fun to play.

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#39 sarsfieldUSMC
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u get halo reach beta
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#40 gatsbythepig
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I think you're forgetting one key detail--It's an expansion! Unless you go into the game expecting it to be a sequel with tons of additions, ODST shouldn't be a let down. Just look at it like it is. ODST is just an expansion with a couple of cheap new weapons and features to keep you entertained. Also, ODST will not be a $60 purchase. I think Bungie said $30.I think ODST will be worth a pick up (only if you like Halo 3 obviously) because it launches before the rest of 09 premiere titles and Halo is always fun to play.

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Sorry but it really is $60, I was upset when I heard too.

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#41 mwa
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meh if it's truly an expansion/add on like they say, then i don't think they should be charging full price for it. i'm still a bit confused, because i got the impression Reach was an add on, but it seem that Reach is a totally new IP? someone please explain this to me :(

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You can see into the future? Cool :roll:

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I don't know, I expect some new multiplayer modes or perhaps a whole different matchmaking category for ODST. I doubt it'll be a letdown
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#44 thgodofwar
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[QUOTE="RDG_NHL"]Dont get me wrong, the gameplay footage looks amazing, but, it lacks in the online category. The online being the same as Halo 3's with just some added 3 maps and the original DLC? I have kept up with my Halo 3 playing and am about to get the Mythic Maps. So, all I would be getting Halo ODST for is the story and Firefight, and I am not willing to spend 60$ to buy a game that I can beat in a couple of days. A rental would be all I needed to get the most out of the game.

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#45 thgodofwar
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sorry i ment to do a quick quote anyway i am a halo fan but ill take his word for it

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#46 RDG_NHL
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meh if it's truly an expansion/add on like they say, then i don't think they should be charging full price for it. i'm still a bit confused, because i got the impression Reach was an add on, but it seem that Reach is a totally new IP? someone please explain this to me :(

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Halo Reach is an entirely different game. I WILL most likely get Halo Reach (as long as it is not a RTS). Halo ODST has a multiplayer beta invitation for Halo Reach but the beta won't be playable until sometime in 2010.
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#47 RM84x
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Halo Wars, Halo ODST, Halo Reach.... I'm getting sick of all this Halo.
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#48 RDG_NHL
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I don't know, I expect some new multiplayer modes or perhaps a whole different matchmaking category for ODST. I doubt it'll be a letdownmoose_knuckler
Halo ODST is a 2 disc game. Disc 1 is campaign and firefight. Disc 2 is Halo 3's online with all DLC on it. The only reason I would have considered buying it is for Disc 1 and since the price tag is going to end up being $60 (cost stated by earlier post) I don't think that the game will be worth my money.
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#49 RDG_NHL
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Halo Wars, Halo ODST, Halo Reach.... I'm getting sick of all this Halo. RM84x
Halo Wars doesn't count as it was made by Ensemble Studios :p But I do hope that Bungie starts development on a new game series soon... I too am getting tired of the Halo games... Trilogy... yeah right.
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#50 mad-aussie
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I will buy game, but i do find that it is a bit rough how they put most of the map packs on their, oh well that is what usually happens.