Hate achievements,but love the 360?

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#1 K1LLR3175
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I was wondering if there was anybody out there who felt like I do about achievements.The way I feel about them is,at first I loved them,but then I really started to hate them,hate them to the point that I just turn off notifications and go about playing the game.I know that alot of people believe that achievements add replay value and I am not hating on people who love them,I am just posting my opinions on them.I think that alot of the things that achievements offer or make you do I would of done anyway,like beating a game on the hardest difficulty and what not.I understand the fact that people want to compete with there gamerscores but to me there is kind of no point.I don't hate the 360,infact I love it.I just kinda feel that achievements have replaced good in game unlockables and it is kinda sad to me.I just wanted to know if there are anybody else out there who felt this way about achievements.
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#2 Avenger1324
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it looks like you definitely went for gamerscore at one point, with 30+k.

I go through phases with it as well. I raced a friend to 10k, then continued for a bit after that, borrowing some games purely for the GS, but now I'd much rather play a good game that I enjoy playing, rather than one just for GS. GS is pointless, but I do still like completing a game fully before moving on. I find they do tend to make me play a game longer than I might otherwise have done, so in that respect I think they are good, as long as I am enjoying the extra time I'm playing.

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#3 LeviLRP
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I like them. I do wish that more games would take after Dead Rising though. You got unlockable things by getting some of the achievements. That would give more incentive to go for them IMO.
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#4 xRmRxfreakBOMB
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coming from someone who has 30,000+ gamerscore >_>

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#5 K1LLR3175
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I agree with the more in game unlockables.I have been playin more original xbox titles on my 360 then actual 360 titles.Maybe I am being to hard on them,cause I love beating a game 100%,maybe there should be a list for th single player and multiplayer,you know it would keep your stats for your singleplayer progress,like how many hours you have played a game and how may enemies you have kill,how much percent you have completed etc,etc.I alway have had this idea and thought that it wold be great on the 360.
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#6 1_Hit_Killer
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I love them and it seems you loved them at one point as well seeing you got a 30k score like me. Thing is I've always been "one and done" gamer, I normally never replay most games even if I love them , and achievements have really changed that about the way I play games. It never ruined my gaming experience, it's made it even better and I've been gaming since the SNES.
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#7 king-kill33
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there ok. some of them are a bit stupid, like on gta, having to do a wheelie for a certain distance (fun, but pointless)

and other games, like eternal sonata and bioshock, ive completed multiple times, but because i wasnt looking to do certain things i only achived a fifth of the total achievements

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#8 Deihmos
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How can you possibly say you hate achievements? I can understand you not caring for them but hating them is very strange.

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#9 K1LLR3175
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Yeah I know I use to really,really love them.

coming from someone who has 30,000+ gamerscore >_>

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#10 iam2green
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i don't mind them, it is fun to get them, i try to get the sometimes if i know that they r easy to get. if i get them then i get them.
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#11 OfficialBed
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i think they are fun to get
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#12 ligerz76
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There is no reason why you shouldn't buy a 360 just because of achievements. Why would one hate achievements anyway? If you don't care for them then don't pay attention to them. It shouldn't be something someone gets aggravated over.
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#13 kissthedingo
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I couldn't care less for Achievement Points either, but to really hate it might be too much for me. However, I do hate one of my neighbor's cat. It keeps giving me the evil-eye everytime I come home from school. :cry:

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#14 destinhpark
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I dig 'em. They add plenty of replay value. Without boosting or cheating, also.

They give you a sense of accomplishment for SURE. Gears of War's "Seriously..." and COD4's "Mile High Club", especially.

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#15 PlasmaBeam44
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I like them. They give me a reason to go back and play games that I normally wouldn't touch again.
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#16 Chogyam
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nope.

they need to actually do something, not just add more points to an already useless gamerscore.

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#17 Palantas
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Sometimes I get annoyed when achievements are extremely tedious (not difficult, just tedious), but then I think that the only person making me get any given achievement is me.
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#18 junor69
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i just love geting the 3 red light achievement it makes me feel special; 3 times now :cry:
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#19 blue_tape
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The point of gamerscore is whatever you make it.
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#20 diablobasher
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"Posts: 360"

Wow you really do like 360 :P

Anyhow. I've made my feelings perfectly clear on this many many times before. I love them, in fact, i'm happy to admit my love for them is approaching dangerous addiction. But that's fine, noone else has to like them.

I just like the ability to say to someone "Well, here's the achievement for X" if they don't beleive I have achieved a certain thing. For example nothing irked me more than way back when, when I beat the world record speed for Resident Evil 2: Leon Scenario A, of course nobody beleives me, I wouldnt beleive me either without photo evidence. Unfortunately you only get like 3 seconds to photo the screen to catch the time, and none of the photos came out well enough to see.

But achievements give me a way of saying "Well, here it is." without getting into an argument about whether or not i'm lying through my teeth.

The other side of achievements however, the numeric score. Is I think what causes the most heated debate. This is where it's not longer about what you have achieved, but a pointless number which you either, hate. And hate anyone with a high score either through repressed jealousy, or because you geniunely dont beleive it's an acceptable pursuit. Love, and by extension strive to heighten your score. Or could care less about it, and just play like you normally would on any other console.

Personally I feel the number, while impressive at 25k+ (mines 22 atm) is meaningless. If you really want an indication of how good/what type of gamer that person is, you must actually look at the acheivements he has gained.

It's kind of like review scores. People spend too much time going "ZOMG OVER 9000!!!!!!!" and not enough time going "Oh, this guy actually has a point/Has actually gotten Mile High Club"

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#21 Thorpe89
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Gamerscore is great when developers make great use of achievements. I like getting achievements but if I can't get one, it is no big deal.
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#22 harblock
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i enjoy them and i like the fact that they are hard to get i do think it adds to the replay value of the game i have a lot of fun but i do play live more then the game itself

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#23 Strife88
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I think they're alright, I don't boost my GS or anything like that. There's just quite a few games that appeal to me so I buy them and play them for a long time. If there's an achievement like beat the easy tour or do the tutorial in GH III, I'll just skip them because I'd rather play the game then waste a few hours trying to get a few points.
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#24 NaiKoN9293
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i really dont see why ones gamerscore matters. doesnt that just mean you are willing to play a lot of games that arent even good? i think its much moar important if you have managed to get hard achievements instead
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#25 Iqen
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I love achievments. I actually think they're a great addition to the 360 and makes a game seem so much more funner. Even though I'm not the tyoe to compete gamerscore with friends, I just enjoy earning achievements.
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#26 gbk33
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I don't mind them as long as the gameplay comes first. A game should not revolve around having to get them.
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#27 killerfist
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I dont realy care about them. I used to compete with a friend but he gave up on me:P that was my only reason to go for achievements

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#28 daviwinn
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I like them and despise them at the same time. Some games were ruined for me because of achievements (Gears was one of them). Not because I was hell bent on getting them, but because others were. Nothing sucked more than having some idiot on your team run stright for the boomshot leaving the rest of his team behind with no help just because he wanted to get 100 kills with it, or having someone run around using only the pistol while his team gets slaughtered. This was the main reason I stopped playing that game online. Thankfully developers have begun to learn from the mistakes others have made and these types of problems are going away.

I do love when I hear that ding while playing a game though, it really gives you a sense of satisfaction when you do something insanely difficult and also gives others a good idea of how good you are (or aren't) at a game.

So I guess as long as they enhance my enjoyment rather than hinder it I'm all for them.

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#29 GSU28
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I don't understand how you could hate achievement points. I could comprehend the idea of you not wanting to go out of your way to get them, but how do they actually negatively impact your gaming experience? I for one play games for fun and not to work my ass off for achievements. But I do enjoy it when I do get an achievement.
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#30 zombieKILLER25
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I've never tried to get an achievement. My friends always talk about getting them and i don't see the point at all.
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#31 mohfrontline
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they're fine with me. Except the leaderboards ones on GRAW
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#32 Mau-Justice
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I'm in limbo with them. Personally I think you should be able to spend them on XBLA. I don't want the big number for bragging rights, it should just track what you've accomplished.

I like unlocking achievements, but I wont go out of my way. Normally I just get the ones for game completion. 20 points isn't worth putting 2 more hours into a game I'm ready to be done with.

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#33 ronnet
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I liked the idea but in many games (GTA4 now) I rush the game and do stuff that I dont like to do just for the score. Beat it under 30 hours, check. Collect 30 cars so you can finally give attention to other stuff, check. Waste hours trying to roll your car 5 times, check. Etc etc. Some games have great achievements that you can get in your own time, with those games I really love the idea. Biggest problem is that the balance is off, some games give you 900 points for just the basic stuff, ohers only 200.

I too have grown to dislike achievements, next gen Microsoft needs to make more guidelines for developers when it comes to achievements.

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#34 diablobasher
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or having someone run around using only the pistol while his team gets slaughtered.

daviwinn

I do agree with your point as a whole, but I feel the need to point out that the Pistol is among the best weapons in Gears of War. It's sheer versatility at all ranges makes it disputable as to whether or not it's THE best weapon.

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#35 zero9167
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How can you possibly say you hate achievements? I can understand you not caring for them but hating them is very strange.

Deihmos

some people have the need to hate anything popular to feel cool

but i really like it when a game has a fun set of achievements

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#36 GSU28
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[QUOTE="Deihmos"]

How can you possibly say you hate achievements? I can understand you not caring for them but hating them is very strange.

zero9167

some people have the need to hate anything popular to feel cool

but i really like it when a game has a fun set of achievements

Rofl, Warm Coffee.

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#37 daviwinn
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[QUOTE="daviwinn"]

or having someone run around using only the pistol while his team gets slaughtered.

diablobasher

I do agree with your point as a whole, but I feel the need to point out that the Pistol is among the best weapons in Gears of War. It's sheer versatility at all ranges makes it disputable as to whether or not it's THE best weapon.

Point taken, maybe not the best example to use. :)

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#38 LessThanMarcus
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Achievements are seriously pointless. It's not like it turns into Microsoft points or anything. The casual player could care less about achievements.
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#39 Josepiphus
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I could care less about achievements. The only ones I usually get are beat the game.