HD Wars hav been won!

A constant argument has been whether the Xbox 360 or the PS3 has won the Hd wars and i think we all know that answer to that. Many believed that Sony had won towards the start of the war with many of their previews showing great quality dvds due to their fancy Blu-ray player, but then the price tag hit us all. £499 is not a reasonable price for a console aimed at the market which is mostly of University Student's on student's loans. Sony said that it was that high because of the blu-ray player's cost, which is silly as most people buy a console to play games and don't want to pay for something that they hardily ever use. Meanwhile Microsoft and the xbox 360 are offering a Hd drive seprertertly so if you want it go buy it. Clearly the Hd wars has been won by the xbox 360 but i do not believe that this generation was the true Hd wars so lets wait till next year. What do you think?

dude , welcome here in gamespot .

theres a rule that you should read the sticky rules before you post anything , because what you just posted is forbeddin here , and it have a special forum for it called system wars .

and yeah BR movies was selling more than HDDVD movies , but sony hasnt got the big guns out yet and xbox360 is year ahead of it, just give PS3 more time to prove itself.

erm blu ray is in the lead and its more common too. as terami said...welcome newbie

also... they've only started, they have another 6-10 years (as per normal format lasts) to battle it out so yeah

you kinda made yourself look bad lmao.

i think now's a pretty good time to jump in. I just bought an hd dvd 360attachment for 180 bucks, and sense it came with 6 hd movies, if each were about $20 then the player only cost me 60 dollars. That's a damn good deal. I think now's the time to jump in.

Oh, and blu ray is outselling hd-dvd 2:1 not 3:1

Blu-Ray is outsellng the HD-Dvd by a ratio of 3:1...soroush7

First 2:1, now you make it 3:1?

Seriously, 2:1 is nothing to be proud of, there's hardly any money being made there to say one is winning. For example, the movie 300 sold over 5 million "DVD" copies in one week, that's more than all HD-DVDs and Blu-ray movies put togethor since a year ago when they first went on sale. So 2:1 is not a lead to be proud of since it's so horribly small compared to where the real money is made with DVDS. And the PS3 has helped create that lead, but looking at the sale of discs per player ratio is lower on Blu-ray than that of HD-DVD players to disc ratio. The PS3 helped boost Blu-ray, but just for a short time and is not a viable device to hold up the lead when the players get cheap enough and the average joe chooses to make a switch to HD, then we'll see where this is really going.

Take a look at this:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Joshua_Zyber/Commentary:_A_War_of_Hype,_and_Paramounts_Big_Bombshell_/921

Not making hd-dvd standard for the 360 actually has hurt the format. Blu ray has the user base of the ps3 for a backbone.edflam311

I just see the pS3 as a jump start for Blu-ray, but it won't hold up forever. Sales on both formats are so little compared to DVDs that we won't know who's really winning until players are in the $100-$150 range and the total HD sales goes up.

[QUOTE="edflam311"]Not making hd-dvd standard for the 360 actually has hurt the format. Blu ray has the user base of the ps3 for a backbone.TimothyB

I just see the pS3 as a jump start for Blu-ray, but it won't hold up forever. Sales on both formats are so little compared to DVDs that we won't know who's really winning until players are in the $100-$150 range and the total HD sales goes up.

erm blu ray is in the lead and its more common too. as terami said...welcome newbie

also... they've only started, they have another 6-10 years (as per normal format lasts) to battle it out so yeah

you kinda made yourself look bad lmao.

sonic0491

You can not compare DVDs with Blu-Ray and HD-DVD due to the fact that DVD has been released for a long time now and the same can happen to it just like what happened with VCR.ISuperGamerI

You can compare DVD sales to HD sales to show that the war isn't even started yet to have ended. Like people complaining when Paramount went to HD-DVD side knowing they could have sold more on Blu-ray because of that 2:1 info to make more money is a bogus arguement. The sales are still way to low to make any really money, even selling to both let alone blu-ray. DVDs can have one title outsell all by near double the HD format discs ever sold in one week, so they focused more on the future and the facts than puny sales figures. Thus, this war hasn't even begun.

You can compare DVD sales to HD sales to show that the war isn't even started yet to have ended. Like people complaining when Paramount went to HD-DVD side knowing they could have sold more on Blu-ray because of that 2:1 info to make more money is a bogus arguement. The sales are still way to low to make any really money, even selling to both let alone blu-ray. DVDs can have one title outsell all by near double the HD format discs ever sold in one week, so they focused more on the future and the facts than puny sales figures. Thus, this war hasn't even begunTimothyB

[QUOTE="TimothyB"]You can compare DVD sales to HD sales to show that the war isn't even started yet to have ended. Like people complaining when Paramount went to HD-DVD side knowing they could have sold more on Blu-ray because of that 2:1 info to make more money is a bogus arguement. The sales are still way to low to make any really money, even selling to both let alone blu-ray. DVDs can have one title outsell all by near double the HD format discs ever sold in one week, so they focused more on the future and the facts than puny sales figures. Thus, this war hasn't even begunteebeenz

The payment is only speculation and their official press release stated all valid points for their decision on their move to HD-DVD. It's probably a mix of things, but I think the facts help make the decision now and probably in 18 months they'll use facts to decide again.

They can't just stop selling DVDS in a year if they wanted to, there is too big of a user base to just stop, there'd be an outrage and they'd lose money and the studios wouldn't support the new formats if they dare tried that. heck, they can't even release movies online downloads cheaper than DVDs for fear retail stores will stop selling them. Households only just switched to the format in recent years too. And most people don't even have an HDTV. The whole population isn't going to be forced to buy a new expensive HD player they don't want, can't use, or can't afford, especially with disc costs. It's basically a waiting game for the people to adopt the new formats as it gets cheaper and cheaper and HD more common, the companies can't force the change. Just like DVDs, I only got my first player when they were around $250 and the discs were expensive, but VCRs were $30. Right now you got $20 DVD players, how you going to convince people that can't even afford $100, let alone and HDTV, to throw away their DVD players for a $299 HD player?

Pulling DVDs is like MS saying you have to buy the HD-DVD add-on drive to play all new games, it won't happen even if they wanted it to, people would just dump the system.

And seeing how to get full use out of the HD format you must have an expensive tv, so even if the players get cheaper and cheaper, that doesn't mean it will take off since it will need to have HD tvs come down just as much too.

Again, I don't know how you don't think DVDs are a big part compared to HD. It's the studios that want to make money, and that's with DVDs right now. They are only supporting HD formats for the future. Do you think any studio would have signed on with any new format if they were to cancel all DVD formats from then on, no.

Lol. I thought this topic was about Halo Wars.ISuperGamerI

ROTFL

[QUOTE="teebeenz"][QUOTE="TimothyB"]You can compare DVD sales to HD sales to show that the war isn't even started yet to have ended. Like people complaining when Paramount went to HD-DVD side knowing they could have sold more on Blu-ray because of that 2:1 info to make more money is a bogus arguement. The sales are still way to low to make any really money, even selling to both let alone blu-ray. DVDs can have one title outsell all by near double the HD format discs ever sold in one week, so they focused more on the future and the facts than puny sales figures. Thus, this war hasn't even begunTimothyB

The payment is only speculation and their official press release stated all valid points for their decision on their move to HD-DVD. It's probably a mix of things, but I think the facts help make the decision now and probably in 18 months they'll use facts to decide again.

They can't just stop selling DVDS in a year if they wanted to, there is too big of a user base to just stop, there'd be an outrage and they'd lose money and the studios wouldn't support the new formats if they dare tried that. heck, they can't even release movies online downloads cheaper than DVDs for fear retail stores will stop selling them. Households only just switched to the format in recent years too. And most people don't even have an HDTV. The whole population isn't going to be forced to buy a new expensive HD player they don't want, can't use, or can't afford, especially with disc costs. It's basically a waiting game for the people to adopt the new formats as it gets cheaper and cheaper and HD more common, the companies can't force the change. Just like DVDs, I only got my first player when they were around $250 and the discs were expensive, but VCRs were $30. Right now you got $20 DVD players, how you going to convince people that can't even afford $100, let alone and HDTV, to throw away their DVD players for a $299 HD player?

Pulling DVDs is like MS saying you have to buy the HD-DVD add-on drive to play all new games, it won't happen even if they wanted it to, people would just dump the system.

And seeing how to get full use out of the HD format you must have an expensive tv, so even if the players get cheaper and cheaper, that doesn't mean it will take off since it will need to have HD tvs come down just as much too.

Again, I don't know how you don't think DVDs are a big part compared to HD. It's the studios that want to make money, and that's with DVDs right now. They are only supporting HD formats for the future. Do you think any studio would have signed on with any new format if they were to cancel all DVD formats from then on, no.

As much as most if not all of those statements are true, its the same thing that happened with VCR. Too many people had VCR already which were the most inexpensive and popular video/movie format at the time. However, DVD was released and over a few years more and more people were switching from VCR to DVD even though the price and popularity was a huge difference. I know its a bit harder with HD-DVD and Blu-Ray since they require the user to have a HDTV but it will be solved.