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its hard to be a HD-DVD player owner these days. Constant ridicual from the "Bru-Ray" enthuasiasts, lack of titles coming out. Its enough to get me depreesed about my $200. It makes me want to drop 600 big ones on the cheapest Blu-ray player. *sigh* even if it was 200 dollars, im still kinda pissed. Blu-Ray studio supporters outnumber HD-DVD studios 4:1. And pretty soon those studios supporting HD-DVD are gonna jump to Blu-Ray. THe thing that pisses me off the most, is that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray have the Same quality. there practicaly equal. Yet Blu-ray is not winning by performance, but by bulk. By Sheer mass they are killing HD-DVD slowly. and thats what gets me. why cant this be a equal battle where it will come down to which has better picture quality. Can the HD-DVD pull a Rocky Balboa, or is it about time to trade in the ol HD-DVD add on.

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#2 Screamin_EaGLes
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lol honestly i think HD-DVD has a good selection of hd-dvds. i was planning on getting one but i thought about it and there are rumors that 360 might get blu-ray but who knows. i'm still debating on whether i should buy the hd-dvd player add on or not. there are some hd-dvds that i want such as smallville season 6 and batman begins. but dvd isnt dead YET so i'll hold off on it now. i dont think you should trade it in, give it a little more time before you go to blu-ray
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Well, this is understandable. BR is backed by Sony who makes movies too. Toshiba doesn't make movies. It instantly lost the first party support. And MS is barely supporting it, no HD-DVD built into Ellite. MS is supporting HD-DVD only because Toshiba is working their ass of to pleas MS, and it is harder to make an add-on from the format that has Sony is top member of the BR association.magicalclick

so if HD-DVD support ceses, then all of us who bought the add on are gonna be left in the dust.

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I dont think ill buy any of the HD-DVDs. Ill just use netflix. Just so in not stuck with a bunch of movies for a possibly dead format.
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@ TC

I live in Australia, in a part that is classified as "country" and HD-DVD players are readily available here, just that the actual HD-DVD movies are not (in any of the stores near me, quite possible that Sydney stores have them), even though they have had blu-ray movies available for a while. This should put in perspective of how bad HD-DVD's are being treated elsewhere

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HDDVD had a hard fight from round 1. With only Universal as a supporter there really wasnt much it could do vs Disney, WB, etc etc. And now that the PC makers are now putting BD drives into top end PCs it looks darker than ever.
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What are the Best HD DVDs out right now. (great picture quality or good movie over all. Or a combonation of both.)
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its hard to be a HD-DVD player owner these days. Constant ridicual from the "Bru-Ray" enthuasiasts, lack of titles coming out. Its enough to get me depreesed about my $200. It makes me want to drop 600 big ones on the cheapest Blu-ray player. *sigh* even if it was 200 dollars, im still kinda pissed. Blu-Ray studio supporters outnumber HD-DVD studios 4:1. And pretty soon those studios supporting HD-DVD are gonna jump to Blu-Ray. THe thing that pisses me off the most, is that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray have the Same quality. there practicaly equal. Yet Blu-ray is not winning by performance, but by bulk. By Sheer mass they are killing HD-DVD slowly. and thats what gets me. why cant this be a equal battle where it will come down to which has better picture quality. Can the HD-DVD pull a Rocky Balboa, or is it about time to trade in the ol HD-DVD add on.

black_awpN1
man are u crazy HD-DVD has been great, and there are plenty of good movies on HD-DVD and lots of new titles coming in the next few weeks starting with the Matrix collection next month, just bought Smoking Aces and there are more good movies coming out for HD-DVD than there are for Blu-Ray in the coming months, plus the picture quality on Blu-Ray is piss poor compared to HD-DVD
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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

its hard to be a HD-DVD player owner these days. Constant ridicual from the "Bru-Ray" enthuasiasts, lack of titles coming out. Its enough to get me depreesed about my $200. It makes me want to drop 600 big ones on the cheapest Blu-ray player. *sigh* even if it was 200 dollars, im still kinda pissed. Blu-Ray studio supporters outnumber HD-DVD studios 4:1. And pretty soon those studios supporting HD-DVD are gonna jump to Blu-Ray. THe thing that pisses me off the most, is that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray have the Same quality. there practicaly equal. Yet Blu-ray is not winning by performance, but by bulk. By Sheer mass they are killing HD-DVD slowly. and thats what gets me. why cant this be a equal battle where it will come down to which has better picture quality. Can the HD-DVD pull a Rocky Balboa, or is it about time to trade in the ol HD-DVD add on.

ProjectPat187

man are u crazy HD-DVD has been great, and there are plenty of good movies on HD-DVD and lots of new titles coming in the next few weeks starting with the Matrix collection next month, just bought Smoking Aces and there are more good movies coming out for HD-DVD than there are for Blu-Ray in the coming months, plus the picture quality on Blu-Ray is piss poor compared to HD-DVD

actually, I own both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray and the picture quality is exactly the same.  Some movies, HD-DVD is slightly better (Superman Returns) and some movies Blu-Ray is better quality (The Departed).  More movies are going to Blu-Ray though.  Disney signed an exclusive deal to only release on Blu-Ray, from what I read on Disney.com last week, Disney is no longer going to release any movies on standard DVD format

after Jan 1, 2008, they are going to exclusively release on the Blu-Ray format 

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There has been a lull of HD-DVD releases, but the format is far from dead. They are starting to get some new titles out and have the Matrix coming the end of May (YEA!!!!)

HD-DVD and Bluray are practically the same. Bluray likes to focus on uncompressed PCM sound while HD-DVD focuses on the newer DD+, DDHD, etc. They both use the same VC-1 video codex now so video quality is identical. Bluray has some issues in the beginning with poor video, but that is no longer the case. The best HD movie I have seen yet period is on Bluray and is called The Prestige, incredible movie and presentation.

I just picked up Smoking Aces, entertaining movie, but not the best, but it has a great picture. My favorite HD-DVD so far is the Richard Donner Cut of Superman 2. Any superman fan owes it to themselves to get this movie...its not the same movie at all and is far superior to the original.

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[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

its hard to be a HD-DVD player owner these days. Constant ridicual from the "Bru-Ray" enthuasiasts, lack of titles coming out. Its enough to get me depreesed about my $200. It makes me want to drop 600 big ones on the cheapest Blu-ray player. *sigh* even if it was 200 dollars, im still kinda pissed. Blu-Ray studio supporters outnumber HD-DVD studios 4:1. And pretty soon those studios supporting HD-DVD are gonna jump to Blu-Ray. THe thing that pisses me off the most, is that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray have the Same quality. there practicaly equal. Yet Blu-ray is not winning by performance, but by bulk. By Sheer mass they are killing HD-DVD slowly. and thats what gets me. why cant this be a equal battle where it will come down to which has better picture quality. Can the HD-DVD pull a Rocky Balboa, or is it about time to trade in the ol HD-DVD add on.

rbrown3

man are u crazy HD-DVD has been great, and there are plenty of good movies on HD-DVD and lots of new titles coming in the next few weeks starting with the Matrix collection next month, just bought Smoking Aces and there are more good movies coming out for HD-DVD than there are for Blu-Ray in the coming months, plus the picture quality on Blu-Ray is piss poor compared to HD-DVD

actually, I own both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray and the picture quality is exactly the same.  Some movies, HD-DVD is slightly better (Superman Returns) and some movies Blu-Ray is better quality (The Departed).  More movies are going to Blu-Ray though.  Disney signed an exclusive deal to only release on Blu-Ray, from what I read on Disney.com last week, Disney is no longer going to release any movies on standard DVD format

after Jan 1, 2008, they are going to exclusively release on the Blu-Ray format 

The Departed did not look better on Blu-Ray than it did on HD-DVD I have seen them both matter of fact the HD-DVD version looked slightly better as usual
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lol wow after i read the recent posts, i might have to go pick this up instead of the 120GB HDD
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[QUOTE="rbrown3"][QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

its hard to be a HD-DVD player owner these days. Constant ridicual from the "Bru-Ray" enthuasiasts, lack of titles coming out. Its enough to get me depreesed about my $200. It makes me want to drop 600 big ones on the cheapest Blu-ray player. *sigh* even if it was 200 dollars, im still kinda pissed. Blu-Ray studio supporters outnumber HD-DVD studios 4:1. And pretty soon those studios supporting HD-DVD are gonna jump to Blu-Ray. THe thing that pisses me off the most, is that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray have the Same quality. there practicaly equal. Yet Blu-ray is not winning by performance, but by bulk. By Sheer mass they are killing HD-DVD slowly. and thats what gets me. why cant this be a equal battle where it will come down to which has better picture quality. Can the HD-DVD pull a Rocky Balboa, or is it about time to trade in the ol HD-DVD add on.

ProjectPat187

man are u crazy HD-DVD has been great, and there are plenty of good movies on HD-DVD and lots of new titles coming in the next few weeks starting with the Matrix collection next month, just bought Smoking Aces and there are more good movies coming out for HD-DVD than there are for Blu-Ray in the coming months, plus the picture quality on Blu-Ray is piss poor compared to HD-DVD

actually, I own both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray and the picture quality is exactly the same.  Some movies, HD-DVD is slightly better (Superman Returns) and some movies Blu-Ray is better quality (The Departed).  More movies are going to Blu-Ray though.  Disney signed an exclusive deal to only release on Blu-Ray, from what I read on Disney.com last week, Disney is no longer going to release any movies on standard DVD format

after Jan 1, 2008, they are going to exclusively release on the Blu-Ray format 

The Departed did not look better on Blu-Ray than it did on HD-DVD I have seen them both matter of fact the HD-DVD version looked slightly better as usual

oh please, they both use the identical VC-1 encoded video transfer...there is no difference, take off the HD-DVD fanboy goggles please

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Chinese $200.00 HD DVD players (stand alone) coming to Walmart. Disney did not vote this down either for these to come to America.

Planet Earth on HD DVD became the highest sold HD disk on Amazon, higher than any Blu-ray disk.

Matrix trilogy only on HD-DVD until about 6 months later when it will come out on Blu-ray.

Universal and Toshiba are together doing a bigger European push for HD DVD.

British film makers have just decided to go HD DVD over Blu-ray.

Samsung just joined the HD DVD camp.

First Look Pictures is going HD DVD over Blu-ray. (Aqua Teen Movie)

HD DVD has come back with more new releases, and caught back up to Blu-ray, even passed for a couple of days in sales.

Universal still has alot of films coming including the 3rd Bourne movie, also Shaun Of The Dead and Hot Fuzz out on the same day, Scarface, Gladiator etc..............

Grindhouse coming only to HD DVD!

Just wait I bet Lions Gate and Disney jump over. Not so sure about Fox.

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Chinese $200.00 HD DVD players (stand alone) coming to Walmart. Disney did not vote this down either for these to come to America.

Planet Earth on HD DVD became the highest sold HD disk on Amazon, higher than any Blu-ray disk.

Matrix trilogy only on HD-DVD until about 6 months later when it will come out on Blu-ray.

Universal and Toshiba are together doing a bigger European push for HD DVD.

British film makers have just decided to go HD DVD over Blu-ray.

Samsung just joined the HD DVD camp.

First Look Pictures is going HD DVD over Blu-ray. (Aqua Teen Movie)

HD DVD has come back with more new releases, and caught back up to Blu-ray, even passed for a couple of days in sales.

Universal still has alot of films coming including the 3rd Bourne movie, also Shaun Of The Dead and Hot Fuzz out on the same day, Scarface, Gladiator etc..............

Grindhouse coming only to HD DVD!

Just wait I bet Lions Gate and Disney jump over. Not so sure about Fox.

AlumaProDave

Those $200 to $300 players our being made by TDK, which supports Blu-Ray, and another company.  Disney has nothing to do with hardware so what are you talking about.

There our rumors that Universal is about to go neutral since they have not annouced any more HD-DVD's.(not confirmed)

Disney is not jumping over because they are releasing movies on Blu-Ray at the moment.

The rest I am not even going to respond to.  Actually I can't believe I wasted my time responding to any of it.  People please do some actual research before you post.

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Both formats are doing meh-to-ok.  Winning this 'war' is like the Xbox outselling the Gamecube.  Sales are consistent enough for BOTH formats that I wouldn't be surprised to see studio support becoming more standard for both formats (with Sony Pictures being the one that will truly stay exclusive).

Don't believe all of the hype.  There is no domination happening here by either format.

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[QUOTE="AlumaProDave"]

Chinese $200.00 HD DVD players (stand alone) coming to Walmart. Disney did not vote this down either for these to come to America.

Planet Earth on HD DVD became the highest sold HD disk on Amazon, higher than any Blu-ray disk.

Matrix trilogy only on HD-DVD until about 6 months later when it will come out on Blu-ray.

Universal and Toshiba are together doing a bigger European push for HD DVD.

British film makers have just decided to go HD DVD over Blu-ray.

Samsung just joined the HD DVD camp.

First Look Pictures is going HD DVD over Blu-ray. (Aqua Teen Movie)

HD DVD has come back with more new releases, and caught back up to Blu-ray, even passed for a couple of days in sales.

Universal still has alot of films coming including the 3rd Bourne movie, also Shaun Of The Dead and Hot Fuzz out on the same day, Scarface, Gladiator etc..............

Grindhouse coming only to HD DVD!

Just wait I bet Lions Gate and Disney jump over. Not so sure about Fox.

d14m23

Those $200 to $300 players our being made by TDK, which supports Blu-Ray, and another company.  Disney has nothing to do with hardware so what are you talking about.

There our rumors that Universal is about to go neutral since they have not annouced any more HD-DVD's.(not confirmed)

Disney is not jumping over because they are releasing movies on Blu-Ray at the moment.

The rest I am not even going to respond to.  Actually I can't believe I wasted my time responding to any of it.  People please do some actual research before you post.

Actually if you go over to the avsforums and do some research you will find out what I am talking about, even the Disney yes or no panel vote.
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its too early to tell and who really cares?  Once all this technology gets cheap you can just buy a dual player that plays both formats.  Enjoy your hi-def movies now if you have the hd dvd add-on.  I just pre-ordered planet earth for it and I cannot wait to get my hands on it, that show blows my mind.
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Sony owns:

Film
  • Sony Pictures Entertainment
  • Columbia TriStar
  • Sony Pictures Classics
  • Screen Gems

Television

  • Sony Pictures Television
  • AXN
  • Animax Japan
  • SoapCity
  • GAME SHOW NETWORK (50% with Liberty Media)
  • Movielink (jointly owned with Paramount Pictures, Sony Pictures Entertainment,  Universal Studios and Warner Bros. Studios)
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Disney owns (which just annouced it will only support Blu-Ray):

Film 

Walt Disney Pictures

Touchstone Pictures

Hollywood Pictures

Miramax Films
Buena Vista Home Entertainment

Pixar   

Broadcast Television 

ABC Network

Cable Television

ESPN
ABC Family
Disney Channel
Toon Disney
SOAPnet
Lifetime Network (partial)
A&E (partial)
E! (partial)

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Sony owns:

Film
  • Sony Pictures Entertainment
  • Columbia TriStar
  • Sony Pictures Classics
  • Screen Gems

Television

  • Sony Pictures Television
  • AXN
  • Animax Japan
  • SoapCity
  • GAME SHOW NETWORK (50% with Liberty Media)
  • Movielink (jointly owned with Paramount Pictures, Sony Pictures Entertainment,  Universal Studios and Warner Bros. Studios)
d14m23
All of this, and Sony is still and will continue to be in a big financial hole!
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Both formats are doing meh-to-ok. Winning this 'war' is like the Xbox outselling the Gamecube. Sales are consistent enough for BOTH formats that I wouldn't be surprised to see studio support becoming more standard for both formats (with Sony Pictures being the one that will truly stay exclusive).

Don't believe all of the hype. There is no domination happening here by either format.

Darth_Tigris

 

Bingo.  This thing is neck and neck.  Those posting rumors about studios jumping ship are just wishful thinking at the moment.  

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Sony owns:

Film
  • Sony Pictures Entertainment
  • Columbia TriStar
  • Sony Pictures Classics
  • Screen Gems 

Television

  • Sony Pictures Television
  • AXN
  • Animax Japan
  • SoapCity
  • GAME SHOW NETWORK (50% with Liberty Media)
  • Movielink (jointly owned with Paramount Pictures, Sony Pictures Entertainment,  Universal Studios and Warner Bros. Studios)
d14m23
You forgot MGM.
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[QUOTE="d14m23"]

Sony owns:

Film
  • Sony Pictures Entertainment
  • Columbia TriStar
  • Sony Pictures Classics
  • Screen Gems 

Television

  • Sony Pictures Television
  • AXN
  • Animax Japan
  • SoapCity
  • GAME SHOW NETWORK (50% with Liberty Media)
  • Movielink (jointly owned with Paramount Pictures, Sony Pictures Entertainment,  Universal Studios and Warner Bros. Studios)

AlumaProDave

You forgot MGM.

I thought they owned more Film/Movie companies but wasn't sure.  I get this list from a website.

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[QUOTE="AlumaProDave"][QUOTE="d14m23"]

Sony owns:

Film
  • Sony Pictures Entertainment
  • Columbia TriStar
  • Sony Pictures Classics
  • Screen Gems 

Television

  • Sony Pictures Television
  • AXN
  • Animax Japan
  • SoapCity
  • GAME SHOW NETWORK (50% with Liberty Media)
  • Movielink (jointly owned with Paramount Pictures, Sony Pictures Entertainment,  Universal Studios and Warner Bros. Studios)

d14m23

You forgot MGM.

I thought they owned more Film/Movie companies but wasn't sure.  I get this list from a website.

It,s cool.
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The only movies that make me want to get a blu ray player are the first 2 Terminator movies.  You can tell HD DVD will lose because it got Terminator 3.:(
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[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rbrown3"][QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

its hard to be a HD-DVD player owner these days. Constant ridicual from the "Bru-Ray" enthuasiasts, lack of titles coming out. Its enough to get me depreesed about my $200. It makes me want to drop 600 big ones on the cheapest Blu-ray player. *sigh* even if it was 200 dollars, im still kinda pissed. Blu-Ray studio supporters outnumber HD-DVD studios 4:1. And pretty soon those studios supporting HD-DVD are gonna jump to Blu-Ray. THe thing that pisses me off the most, is that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray have the Same quality. there practicaly equal. Yet Blu-ray is not winning by performance, but by bulk. By Sheer mass they are killing HD-DVD slowly. and thats what gets me. why cant this be a equal battle where it will come down to which has better picture quality. Can the HD-DVD pull a Rocky Balboa, or is it about time to trade in the ol HD-DVD add on.

creekfan_basic

man are u crazy HD-DVD has been great, and there are plenty of good movies on HD-DVD and lots of new titles coming in the next few weeks starting with the Matrix collection next month, just bought Smoking Aces and there are more good movies coming out for HD-DVD than there are for Blu-Ray in the coming months, plus the picture quality on Blu-Ray is piss poor compared to HD-DVD

actually, I own both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray and the picture quality is exactly the same.  Some movies, HD-DVD is slightly better (Superman Returns) and some movies Blu-Ray is better quality (The Departed).  More movies are going to Blu-Ray though.  Disney signed an exclusive deal to only release on Blu-Ray, from what I read on Disney.com last week, Disney is no longer going to release any movies on standard DVD format

after Jan 1, 2008, they are going to exclusively release on the Blu-Ray format 

The Departed did not look better on Blu-Ray than it did on HD-DVD I have seen them both matter of fact the HD-DVD version looked slightly better as usual

oh please, they both use the identical VC-1 encoded video transfer...there is no difference, take off the HD-DVD fanboy goggles please

hey dumby I have a P.O.S3 FYI, so fanboy was the wrong word to use I know they both use the same codec. if they are identical then why did he say it looked better on blu-ray, so keep ur lame comments so urself moron
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#32 mpalacio
Member since 2005 • 468 Posts
Dude, I would have not bought an HD-DVD player yet or a blu-ray player either. Right now it's up in the air. Heck, both formats may fail miserably. There is no telling at this point. But, since you have it...keep it. Just rent for now and try not to spend large amounts of cash on an HD-DVD collection of movies only to toss them out if it loses the format war. I think someone mentioned Netflix has your format for rent. What's done is done; just enjoy your player and who cares what other's say....do you think Sony lover's care that we make fun of their choice of machine? Not really. Just enjoy.