HD-DVD - Why did i waste my money!!!

Im really hacked off about HD-DVD. I bought the add-on just over a month ago and its been all bad news ever since. I am really happy with the quality of the picture, but im just hacked off that after May i'll have very few movies to buy.

Also heard a rumour today that Paramount will be moving very soon to BD as well, taking Dreamworks with them.

God I hope Universal release some bloody good films this year!! Or shall I just cut my losses and sell it on ebay??

Well it's clearly not a watse of money if you have learnt your lesson. I call it the betamax lesson - if there are two types of tecnology that both do the same thing just in diffrent formats, directly competing against each other don't choose a side just choose the winner when it emerges!Anabub

Correct.

Well it's clearly not a watse of money if you have learnt your lesson. I call it the betamax lesson - if there are two types of tecnology that both do the same thing just in diffrent formats, directly competing against each other don't choose a side just choose the winner when it emerges!Anabub

Fair comment, but that doesn't help me with my £120 paperweight!!!!! It was from listening to the guys in this forum that convinced me to buy it in the first place, you all seemed so sure that it would win the war.

Guess we have all learned a lesson. Still. should I ebay it?

Well, when there's a firesale of HD DVD movies, you can buy them then. HD is HD, even if you're playing them on a HD DVD player for years to come.

HD-DVD was doomed from the beginning. Anyone with any knowledge of HD-DVD would have known NOT to buy it.

You were probably looking at the low price tag or the free HD-DVD movie offer.

I don't feel the least bit sorry for you.

JohnWinger

i dont think he was looking for your symphaty he was just venting out some anger

thats why, like most of us, you should have held off until we had more details on the format wars...

well, its not a total loss...you'll be able to find cheap hd-dvd's in the future....so just keep it and grown a library

I'm in the same boat as you, except I jsut got it last week. I have not yet sent off the UPS for 5 free movies, because I haven't decided if I want to keep it or not. I was thinking if all HDDVD's go on sale (fire sale) we can buy them up and use them as normal as a BR player would work, even in the future. The only real drawback is that you can't lend them to friends because they will most liekly have BR players, but for hom euse, they will be perfect. Don't consider it a loss just yet!

Worse case scenario you only lost $200 (or $150 if you got it last week), so it's not so bad.

so sad, only M$ can make some one feel this way. Good thing I went Blu ray and got a PS3 and that HD DVD add-on money for my 360 for games. loli_DUB

This issuch an ignorant comment. MS didn't invent the HD-DVD player they are just supporting the format. What if he had bought a Toshiba HD-DVD player? Would you be writing the same thing?Also I recommend that you read what you write because "that HD DVD add-on money for my 360 for games. lol" makes no sense whatsoever.

Yeah I can see the TC's point.

But really, DO YOU PEOPLE REALLY NEED HD_DVD?

Come on, everyone goes nuts over PS3's hd-dvd capabilities. WHo cares? Just watch your damn movies on regular DVD, you don't need that crap, I bet half of the kids reading this can barely pay the rent let alone buy all this extra **** you don't REALLY need.

I don't mean to offend anyone here, but it seems that many of you are misinformed on the format war here, and it doesnt help anyone when you throw your misinformed childish thoughts into the mix when someone is trying to make a decision whether or not to sell something he already bought.

The Format war is not over, and here's the facts

Warner bros went blu ray a couple weeks back

Rumors circulated about paramount/dreamworks leaving HD, but they have released a statement saying that they ARE NOT leaving HD DVD and will continue to support it. They have a contract w/ toshiba and would lose alot if they were to breach that contract.

Universal is still with HD DVD

Lastly, agreed u shouldnt have bought the player because no one is moving from the SD Disk anytime soon, from 06-07 HD DVD disks sold about 2mil and blu ray sold about 3mil, making up a little over 2 percent of the total movies sold. It wil be years before anyone gives a sh!t about HD movies, and they have to lower disk price almost 1/3 for it to be an acceptable price range. Hope that helps

and what would be written if blue ray ended up loosing... at least we didn't HAVE to get an HD-DVD player with our XBOXs. I'd love to see all the PS3 lovers shouting about how they were ALL ripped off cause blue ray died out. Not saying that it will or won't... just doing a comparison of the situation.

Oh... and sorry people, but those 5 hd-dvds take something like 4 months to get to your door... ouch.

and what would be written if blue ray ended up loosing... at least we didn't HAVE to get an HD-DVD player with our XBOXs. I'd love to see all the PS3 lovers shouting about how they were ALL ripped off cause blue ray died out. Not saying that it will or won't... just doing a comparison of the situation.

Oh... and sorry people, but those 5 hd-dvds take something like 4 months to get to your door... ouch.

kpolicoff

My 5 free HD-DVDs took 5 weeks to get to my house

and what would be written if blue ray ended up loosing... at least we didn't HAVE to get an HD-DVD player with our XBOXs. I'd love to see all the PS3 lovers shouting about how they were ALL ripped off cause blue ray died out. Not saying that it will or won't... just doing a comparison of the situation.

Oh... and sorry people, but those 5 hd-dvds take something like 4 months to get to your door... ouch.

kpolicoff

Actually, as odd as it sounds only 40% of ps3 owners know of it's blu ray capabilities, although that number is a few months old and MAYBE people became educated, it's still just a bunch of hype that was around ps3 when it came out, with it's "superior gaming power",but the lack of content made it lose this generation by a landslide. Fact is, no game has even begun to test the limits of either the box or the ps3 yet. Not even close

Im really hacked off about HD-DVD. I bought the add-on just over a month ago and its been all bad news ever since. I am really happy with the quality of the picture, but im just hacked off that after May i'll have very few movies to buy.

Also heard a rumour today that Paramount will be moving very soon to BD as well, taking Dreamworks with them.

God I hope Universal release some bloody good films this year!! Or shall I just cut my losses and sell it on ebay??

gregdrapes

Were you stupid enough to think that it would be around that long? New hardware is always a gamble. I bought it when it came out and RENTED movies. I knew BLue ray would win in the end, more support but I enjoyed the HD picture for a while. Buying it recently is kinda dumb.

[QUOTE="Anabub"]Well it's clearly not a watse of money if you have learnt your lesson. I call it the betamax lesson - if there are two types of tecnology that both do the same thing just in diffrent formats, directly competing against each other don't choose a side just choose the winner when it emerges!gregdrapes

Fair comment, but that doesn't help me with my £120 paperweight!!!!! It was from listening to the guys in this forum that convinced me to buy it in the first place, you all seemed so sure that it would win the war.

Guess we have all learned a lesson. Still. should I ebay it?

Ugghh... man you're freaking out over NOTHING. I bought the HD-DVD drive back when it came out, and even then I was pretty sure that Blu-Ray was going to win. (Though the war still rages, neither has been deemed the new standard yet) Its the cheapest High Definition disc drive you can get, it lets you experience it all now rather than waiting forever for one to win. Its simple... once Blu-Ray is declared the winner, just hawk your HD-DVD drive, and buy yourself a combo player that will play both Blu-ray and the HD-DVD's you've bought thus far. But until all that happens... just relax and enjoy having HD at all, so many people are holding off because they are afraid they'll be screwed in some way. Thats only true if the HD add on is expensive to you. But frankly, once Blu-Ray wins I'll probably be using the HD-DVD Drive on my PC rather than sell it. (There are tutorials all over the net that detail how to use it on your PC. Works like a charm.)

The format war is not over by far. However, the current leader by a long shot is and has been for some time now, Blu-Ray. But in all actuality, HD-DVD Doesn't really stand a chance at this point, unless the major film companies turn on Blu-Ray and go to HD-DVD with Universal. Because as far as I know, Universal and Paramount are REALLY the only major companies still on board with HD. The other companies are just too large, and have too much to really compete with. It IS possible, but highly unlikely. Whether or not one is better than the other is strictly a matter of opinion. As far as size goes, Blu-Ray won that out of the chutes, but I believe I've heard lately that HD can be made with 3 layers in the near future, making it slightly larger than the Blu-Ray. However, rest assured if HD can do that, Blu-Ray will be able to as well, and blow that number out of the water, releasing discs with nearly 200+ gb of space. Picture and audio quality are both so similar that anyone attempting to argue one or the other here would simply be a fool. To me, picture and audio quality is what matters. I'll wait until the war is completely over before I invest in an exclusive "player." I own a PS3, for the gaming. Simply a perk that it plays Blu-Rays as well.

Remember though, that HD-DVD has Wal-Mart on board as well, and Toshiba sells an HD-DVD player through them for around $200 which is far less than the cheapest blu-ray player which is still the PS3, with it's cheapest model being $399. Ma and Pa consumers who are interested in being top of the line are going to make the obvious cheapest decision, especially someone who doesn't do their homework first. Wal mart associates can purchase them for around $180, a big difference there. This past Christmas they sold for $98 from 5 a.m. to 11 a.m. early in December. Thats a lot of HD-DVD players going out there!

But it still comes down to who supports it and what the majority is available on, and that's Blu-Ray. HD needs more support or they're done.

Well it's clearly not a watse of money if you have learnt your lesson. I call it the betamax lesson - if there are two types of tecnology that both do the same thing just in diffrent formats, directly competing against each other don't choose a side just choose the winner when it emerges!Anabub

Or as I like to call it the own two systems lesson. You could have put in an additional $220 and bought a PS3 Blu-Ray player and got a decent game console wrapped around it! :P From what I've been hearing, Blu-Ray will be the winner of the format wars.

keep you're head up... it's not all lost. the exclusives that hd-dvd currently holds won't see the blu light for some time. so you'll be sitting pretty with movies that blu-ray doesn't support. given that at some point, they'll be re-released on bu-ra. until then, you've got a reason to keep it.

this question is for hd-dvd owners: does it feel similar to when dreamcast got nixed?

HD-DVD was doomed from the beginning. Anyone with any knowledge of HD-DVD would have known NOT to buy it.

You were probably looking at the low price tag or the free HD-DVD movie offer.

I don't feel the least bit sorry for you.

JohnWinger

Anyone who knows anything about the media war knew at the launch of both formats. HD-DVD had far superior image quality where Blu ray looked hardly better than that of a DVD. Would you have trusted a next gen format that promised hd quality then didn't deliver? Sony used MPEG-2 on all launch media and for a while afterwards, resulting it craptactular image quality. Since then they switched to VC-1 like HD-DVD. HD-DVD for the win, If Sony didn't have their own studios HD-DVD would have won this war easily. Sucks for everyone else now that we'll get stuck with overpriced hd bluray movies.

>Anyone who knows anything about the media war knew at the launch of both formats. HD-DVD had far superior image quality where Blu ray looked hardly better than that of a DVD. Would you have trusted a next gen format that promised hd quality then didn't deliver? Sony used MPEG-2 on all launch media and for a while afterwards, resulting it craptactular image quality. Since then they switched to VC-1 like HD-DVD. HD-DVD for the win, If Sony didn't have their own studios HD-DVD would have won this war easily. Sucks for everyone else now that we'll get stuck with overpriced hd bluray movies. suade907

[QUOTE="suade907"]>Anyone who knows anything about the media war knew at the launch of both formats. HD-DVD had far superior image quality where Blu ray looked hardly better than that of a DVD. Would you have trusted a next gen format that promised hd quality then didn't deliver? Sony used MPEG-2 on all launch media and for a while afterwards, resulting it craptactular image quality. Since then they switched to VC-1 like HD-DVD. HD-DVD for the win, If Sony didn't have their own studios HD-DVD would have won this war easily. Sucks for everyone else now that we'll get stuck with overpriced hd bluray movies. teebeenz

Get your facts straight it was the Blu ray group that rejected your so called linked format.

"In an attempt to avoid a costly format war, the Blu-ray Disc Association and DVD Forum started to negotiate a compromise in early 2005. One of the issues was that Blu-ray's supporters wanted to use a Java-based platform for interactivity, while the DVD Forum was promoting Microsoft's "iHD" (which became HDi). A much larger issue, though, was the physical formats of the discs themselves; the Blu-ray Disc Association's member companies did not want to risk losing billions of dollars in royalties as they had done with standard DVD. An agreement seemed close, but negotiations proceeded slowly.At the end of June 2005, Sun announced that the Blu-ray Association had chosen the Java-based BD-J interactivity layer instead of Microsoft's HDi. This was based on a BDA board vote favouring BD-J 10 to 4, despite a technical committee previously favouring HDi by a vote of 7 to 5. At the same time, Microsoft and Toshiba jointly announced that they would cooperate in developing high-definition DVD players.In a top-level meeting in July, Microsoft's Bill Gates argued that the Blu-ray standard had to change to "work more smoothly with personal computers". The Blu-ray Disc's representatives defended the technology."

[QUOTE="JohnWinger"]

HD-DVD was doomed from the beginning. Anyone with any knowledge of HD-DVD would have known NOT to buy it.

You were probably looking at the low price tag or the free HD-DVD movie offer.

I don't feel the least bit sorry for you.

suade907

Anyone who knows anything about the media war knew at the launch of both formats. HD-DVD had far superior image quality where Blu ray looked hardly better than that of a DVD. Would you have trusted a next gen format that promised hd quality then didn't deliver? Sony used MPEG-2 on all launch media and for a while afterwards, resulting it craptactular image quality. Since then they switched to VC-1 like HD-DVD. HD-DVD for the win, If Sony didn't have their own studios HD-DVD would have won this war easily. Sucks for everyone else now that we'll get stuck with overpriced hd bluray movies.

Somebody's playing the "if" game.

Right now (and things could change) Blu Ray is looking like the winner, they have more studios, more storage and more capable players in the market.

There has been a report of a clause that will allow Paramount to jump ship because Warner left, but there has also been another report that Paramount has denied leaving HD DVD. I wouldn't put stock in any of these comments as there have been similar situations in the tech industry where a company has denied something and then gone ahead and done it.

I personally feel that Paramount will leave HD DVD, due to some of it's content creators. We have all heard that Michael Bay was upset at Paramount's decision to go HD DVD only, but as a director he has little clout, but not Spielberg.

After the Paramount announcement, they stated a stipulation which said all Spielberg directed movies (from Paramount) will be released on Blu Ray and HD DVD. To me this says Spielberg wants his movies on Blu Ray, and while he can't "I only want them on Blu Ray" because of the agreement, he can have them on both.

This can be taken either way, as Spielberg has been very slow at releasing anything in HD, just recently Close and Counters of the Third Kind was released and that is all that is planned. Which makes sense as Dreamworks and Spielberg were one of the last studios/directors to adopt DVDs.

will there ever be a blu ray add on for the 360?briannye

Oh I'm pretty sure Blu ray put the nail in the coffin just recently and have no hopes that HD-DVD will survive. I just personally think that HD-DVD was a superior format from day 1. That is all I am trying to argue. Cheaper to produce and better quality since Day 1. You can't argue that.suade907

will there ever be a blu ray add on for the 360?briannye

M$ has to go through Sony.

HD-DVD was doomed from the beginning. Anyone with any knowledge of HD-DVD would have known NOT to buy it.

You were probably looking at the low price tag or the free HD-DVD movie offer.

I don't feel the least bit sorry for you.

JohnWinger

Another example of a random person on a random site knowing more than paid analysts (note sarcasm). Judging by your ps3 tag and comments, you made this decision based not on proof and evidence, but simple fanboy wishes. To the TC, sorry to hear that you feel you wasted your money. The good news is that you'll likely be able to pick up a lot of cheap HD DVD's in the future. In November I really wanted either HD DVD or Blu Ray.; I chose to get the 40gb PS3 as I figured if Blu Ray fails then I at least have a game console. On the other hand, if I got the HD DVD add on and HD DVD failed than I would have a $170 paper weight.