HDMI...looks a bit off...

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#1 CTUDude
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So anyways I'm running my Xbox 360 into a Sony Bravia 37" 720p. I downloaded the FFXIII trailer and Gears of War trailer and almost 40% of the time I get these box like images that appear. They're aren't tiny or real huge but I can notice them. Anyways when I downloaded the Star Wars Force Unleashed featurettes I noticed a lot of screen graining...like a lot.

My question is, is this just something with videos or is something wrong on my end?

P.S. HDMI looks fine for games, although sometimes Gears 1 cutscenes have that 'box-like' effect.

Thanks!

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#2 NOD_Grindking
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Are you sure the TV is set to the correct display? If the TV is a 720p set, make sure its set to 720p.
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#3 Rasika
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did you try changing the reference levels? I dont know whether it'll work but its worth a try.

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Are you sure the TV is set to the correct display? If the TV is a 720p set, make sure its set to 720p.NOD_Grindking
Yeah I have it set to 720p. Uhm are there any special settings that I should adjust within the 360 settings board? I already have it set to LCD since my TV is LCD. I'll take photos of it if it's too confusing to see what I see lol.
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#5 NOD_Grindking
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What exactly do you mean by "Box Like"
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#6 CTUDude
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What exactly do you mean by "Box Like"NOD_Grindking
Alright breaking up my screen into a grid, let's just say it's about 32 boxes by 18. They're about 1-1.5cm wide/tall and what happens is I can still see the image but I see the outline of the boxes. It's almost the same effect as if you took a video that was let's say 400x200 and you blew it up to 1200x800.
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#7 NOD_Grindking
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Is This:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan

What your talking about?

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#8 CTUDude
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[QUOTE="NOD_Grindking"]

Is This:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan

What your talking about?

Hmm I think that's it not 100% sure on the description. The boxes usually appear in the center of my screen, never on the outsides.
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#9 NOD_Grindking
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[QUOTE="CTUDude"][QUOTE="NOD_Grindking"]

Is This:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan

What your talking about?

Hmm I think that's it not 100% sure on the description. The boxes usually appear in the center of my screen, never on the outsides.

Whats the model # of your TV? Also, how old is your 360? And what type of HDMI cord are you using?
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#10 -GeordiLaForge-
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I wouldn't hook a 360 to a Bravia... Sony did some shady things in order to sabotage the 360's display capabilities. For instance, they wouldn't allow 1080p through the component or vga inputs, just because that's what the 360 used. You could only get 1080p with a PS3... I'm not sure that this is still the case, and I'm not saying Sony is the problem here. But after that fiasco, I won't even consider buying a Bravia. But on a positive note, they did fix their backlight problems. Black images no longer look like grey clouds...
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#11 elektrixxx
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You're talking about pixellation. Nothing you can do about that dude; that's just the way the video was encoded.
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You're talking about pixellation. Nothing you can do about that dude; that's just the way the video was encoded.elektrixxx
AHH! That's Right! I re-read the post and he said it showed up in VIDEOS, not GAMES! Aggghhh.....yes this is pixelation. It's because they can only display to a certain resolution do to bandwidth limitations....if they put all video clips in full 720 or 1080, it would take forever to download.

and as far as the Gears video, thats probably just sloppy encoding...that is a pretty rare occurance

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#13 CTUDude
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[QUOTE="NOD_Grindking"][QUOTE="CTUDude"][QUOTE="NOD_Grindking"]

Is This:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan

What your talking about?

Hmm I think that's it not 100% sure on the description. The boxes usually appear in the center of my screen, never on the outsides.

Whats the model # of your TV? Also, how old is your 360? And what type of HDMI cord are you using?

TV: Sony Bravia KDL-37L4000 37" 720p http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665370697 360: Elite April 28th, 2008 HDMI: ****** 10 FT 1.3 HDMI Cord
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Read my above post CTU... p.s. A Raptor fan? Do you live in Toronto.... I feel sorry for us fans right now, uggh :S:S:S
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[QUOTE="elektrixxx"]You're talking about pixellation. Nothing you can do about that dude; that's just the way the video was encoded.NOD_Grindking
AHH! That's Right! I re-read the post and he said it showed up in VIDEOS, not GAMES! Aggghhh.....yes this is pixelation. It's because they can only display to a certain resolution do to bandwidth limitations....if they put all video clips in full 720 or 1080, it would take forever to download.

It shows up during Gears Cutscenes but that's video based? Lol
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#16 -GeordiLaForge-
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You're talking about pixellation. Nothing you can do about that dude; that's just the way the video was encoded.elektrixxx
That's definitely the case for the video, but not Gears. Gears cut scenes are real time. I didn't notice, but they may have reduced the resolution during the more demanding cut scenes. Gears cut scenes always were a bit choppier than the gameplay...
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Read my above post CTU... p.s. A Raptor fan? Do you live in Toronto.... I feel sorry for us fans right now, uggh :S:S:SNOD_Grindking
Yeah, I'm from Downtown Toronto. I cheer for the Raptors unfortunately...We have the Ru Pual of big men.
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As far as the Gears video, is it small squares, like the described pixelation, or it it larger square boxes? Honestly I have found that when you switch over to HDMI and High Definition in General, the PQ is amazing, but if there is some sort of problem, its more noticeable. Thats why SDTV looks so garbage on an HD display.

Also, just using the process of elimination....if it only happens during the videos in Gears, than its most likely a problem with the encoding of the video, and not your display, cable, or 360. Otherwise it would show up during gameplay

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#19 CTUDude
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As far as the Gears video, is it small squares, like the described pixelation, or it it larger square boxes? Honestly I have found that when you switch over to HDMI and High Definition in General, the PQ is amazing, but if there is some sort of problem, its more noticeable. Thats why SDTV looks so garbage on an HD display.NOD_Grindking
Lol oh well. I don't notice it when I play any other game so what ever. Gears is still a killer game. Thanks for the help everyone.
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One last thing: Whats the Gears disc quality like? The only time I have ever had problems is if the disc is dirty, the laser has a quick second where it loses it, and thats when you get distortion
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One last thing: Whats the Gears disc quality like? The only time I have ever had problems is if the disc is dirty, the laser has a quick second where it loses it, and thats when you get distortionNOD_Grindking
Brand new, and I installed it =/ It's only Gears so I'm okay lol.
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#22 -GeordiLaForge-
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Aren't Gears "cut scenes" real time rendering?
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#23 SoAmazingBaby
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My tv is just foglike. Can't really read the playerscore in GoW2 etc.