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#1 Dion2k7
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with GTA 4 only 5 days well 4 and a bit days away people with modded consoles today are sat at home enjoying the game and us truthful and honest gamers who buy the games to support the console and company, have to wait these extra few days. My mate has a modded console and he got gta 4 today pirated for 2.50 and until the actual game comes out i now have to avoid him who i see nearly everyday just so he doesnt ruin the game for me.

so what do you other gamers think of modders/ piraters who receive games early just because their to cheap ass to buy the game at full price?

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#2 nickdastick
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I totally agree, it's ridiculous that these guys cheat the system like that. Sure I would love to pay $10(or less) a copy for games and whatnot but I'm not going to mod my system to do it. It's just too bad but that's how it is on computers too.
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#3 yucky_straw
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I agree that it is unfair. But that's just reality. Life isn't fair. These guys break the rules(or law) for the advantages that come with it. Even though they're taking a huge risk of being caught or breaking their xbox.

I'm not willing to take such a risk. But I'm not angry that other people are doing it. Even if it is unfair that I have to wait and they don't. If they're willing to risk their consoles, warranty, and gamertag, then that's their choice.

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#5 Mau-Justice
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I think it's a little funny, they'd rather face the ban stick than wait?

Pirating is a bit of a disgrace...I pay for games/music to support the artists/developers that I love. If you're stealing all of your content, you aren't supporting them, or the gaming industry. So thanks a lot.

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#6 DataDream
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with GTA 4 only 5 days well 4 and a bit days away people with modded consoles today are sat at home enjoying the game and us truthful and honest gamers who buy the games to support the console and company, have to wait these extra few days. My mate has a modded console and he got gta 4 today pirated for 2.50 and until the actual game comes out i now have to avoid him who i see nearly everyday just so he doesnt ruin the game for me.

so what do you other gamers think of modders/ piraters who receive games early just because their to cheap ass to buy the game at full price?

(to any mods, if this topic is not suitable please lock and delete, thank you! =D)

Dion2k7

Yeah I posted a topic about this - tell your buddy to watch out if you do end up talking to him. MS is tracking early players and trying to determine which ones just got it early and which ones are playing pirated versions on modded consoles (which your buddy is) - it's official that they are tracking these people and deciding what action to take against them.

And good for you for waiting to go legit! :)

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#7 havenshadow07
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I am not a moder but I do have some what of an odd view. When it comes to some games I think people will pirate and play it as a demo which I think is ok. But if you are very satisfied with your "demo" You should purchase the game and support the companies. That's my odd little view on the topic.
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#8 vashkey
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Yup, piraters are douche bags, but can you honestly say that you're surprised that this happened?

It happened to Halo 3.

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#9 millwrought
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But Pirates have the rum, that can't be that bad!
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#10 vashkey
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But Pirates have the rum, that can't be that bad!millwrought

Modern day pirates don't have rum, don't get booty and they don't get enough sun or fresh air.

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#11 millwrought
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[QUOTE="millwrought"]But Pirates have the rum, that can't be that bad!vashkey

Modern day pirates don't have rum, don't get booty and they don't get enough sun or fresh air.

*Cries self to sleep* Everything I loved in life has went away!

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#12 chex81
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meh...i used to get upset with pirating but i've given up...i dont do it but have accepted that others do.

as long as people who have the game say its amazing, thats all that really matters. I dont care whether they have it early or not...i mean, its only a couple of days away.

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#13 kyrissbp82
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Just don't worry about the pirates. Next Tuesday be even better for the anticipation. This is about the time that I stop looking up review info to avoid spoilers. Plus, all of us who buy it legally will actually be able to play online without out consoles being banned for life.
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#14 ag1002
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I agree, pirates are lousy. They don't appreciate how much time, effort, and money is spent to make the games they so casually and thoughtlessly steal. Software companies have to take security measures which makes things more difficult and frustrating for honest people who are not pirates.
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#15 ag1002
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I agree that it is unfair. But that's just reality. Life isn't fair. These guys break the rules(or law) for the advantages that come with it. Even though they're taking a huge risk of being caught or breaking their xbox.

I'm not willing to take such a risk. But I'm not angry that other people are doing it. Even if it is unfair that I have to wait and they don't. If they're willing to risk their consoles, warranty, and gamertag, then that's their choice.

yucky_straw


I'm not sure if you meant it like that, but what you're saying is... it's ok to do it, but it's a gamble... and if it was risk free you'd be perfectly fine with stealing.

It's against the law, it's wrong. Whether it's risk free or not, it's wrong. If there's a man asleep at the bus stop, and I'm walking by... is it ok to take advantage and steal his wallet because it's risk free?
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Although they do get to play the game before any of us, it will catch up to them. If they are already playing the game than they broke the law by pirating a copy or have a modded Xbox 360. I'm not sure but I think that Microsoft watches for these things, so they will probably be banned from Xbox Live for a very long time. So while they do get to play it now we only have to wait a few more days and not have to worry about getting busted.

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#17 TheCyberKnight
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Pirating software has been around for as long as PC's have been in consumers' hands. I remember when I was a kid watching the ridiculous video 'Don't Copy That Floppy" (if you haven't seen it, look it up HERE - Good stuff) and thinking "What harm can it really do?"

Now that I'm grown and know better, it does give me pause from time to time. It IS a problem, but one that will never go away. It's really just up to each individual to do the right thing.

Personally, I'd rather wait for the games/software to be released before risking being caught. I've got a family, and we can afford to wait for release. We can't afford litigation for greed.

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#18 OfficialBed
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i think it's crazy how many people care about this subject....it's just a video game and will be out in 4 days....relax
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#19 CoreoVII
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In this day an age where money and video games go hand in hand it sucks that developers dont get support sometimes, If i busted my ass making a game for some odd years i would hate for it to get leaked and blah blah blah.

although ive seen some crazy modder's, their's talent out their, their just retarded at the same time.

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#20 NSR34GTR
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still im not taking the risks with pirated versions
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#21 ag1002
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Although they do get to play the game before any of us, it will catch up to them. If they are already playing the game than they broke the law by pirating a copy or have a modded Xbox 360. I'm not sure but I think that Microsoft watches for these things, so they will probably be banned from Xbox Live for a very long time. So while they do get to play it now we only have to wait a few more days and not have to worry about getting busted.

FMunro3251


MS bricks your console, they don't just ban you from xbox live they stop your 360 from working so you have to buy a new one.
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#22 yucky_straw
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[QUOTE="yucky_straw"]

I agree that it is unfair. But that's just reality. Life isn't fair. These guys break the rules(or law) for the advantages that come with it. Even though they're taking a huge risk of being caught or breaking their xbox.

I'm not willing to take such a risk. But I'm not angry that other people are doing it. Even if it is unfair that I have to wait and they don't. If they're willing to risk their consoles, warranty, and gamertag, then that's their choice.

ag1002



I'm not sure if you meant it like that, but what you're saying is... it's ok to do it, but it's a gamble... and if it was risk free you'd be perfectly fine with stealing.

It's against the law, it's wrong. Whether it's risk free or not, it's wrong. If there's a man asleep at the bus stop, and I'm walking by... is it ok to take advantage and steal his wallet because it's risk free?

Yes, of course I know that stealing is wrong. But pirating entertainment is not something that really upsets me whenever see or hear about someone doing it. The people making this material will have very good lives regardless of pirates.

Stealing from the rich is an act that's morally wrong but I can't feel much sympathy when there are more unfortunate people out there getting screwed over.

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#23 Qixote
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I don't care about people getting the game early by whatever means. It doesn't impact me. I'll still be playing it when it's released. I have no reason to be jealous just because somebody is playing it before me. I do have a life.
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#24 ag1002
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[QUOTE="ag1002"][QUOTE="yucky_straw"]

I agree that it is unfair. But that's just reality. Life isn't fair. These guys break the rules(or law) for the advantages that come with it. Even though they're taking a huge risk of being caught or breaking their xbox.

I'm not willing to take such a risk. But I'm not angry that other people are doing it. Even if it is unfair that I have to wait and they don't. If they're willing to risk their consoles, warranty, and gamertag, then that's their choice.

yucky_straw



I'm not sure if you meant it like that, but what you're saying is... it's ok to do it, but it's a gamble... and if it was risk free you'd be perfectly fine with stealing.

It's against the law, it's wrong. Whether it's risk free or not, it's wrong. If there's a man asleep at the bus stop, and I'm walking by... is it ok to take advantage and steal his wallet because it's risk free?

Yes, of course I know that stealing is wrong. But pirating entertainment is not something that really upsets me whenever see or hear about someone doing it. The people making this material will have very good lives regardless of pirates.

Stealing from the rich is an act that's morally wrong but I can't feel much sympathy when there are more unfortunate people out there getting screwed over.



Ok sorry I misunderstood. Yeah, pirating entertainment doesn't upset me much either, but only because it is to be expected and can't be stopped. Just think though, if one guy bought a copy of the game and put it up for download, and everyone downloaded it instead of buying their own copy of the game, then that game company would not be able to afford to continue making games. The only reason pirating isn't a big deal for game developers is because not enough people are doing it to effect sales by much.
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#25 Shas02
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[QUOTE="FMunro3251"]

Although they do get to play the game before any of us, it will catch up to them. If they are already playing the game than they broke the law by pirating a copy or have a modded Xbox 360. I'm not sure but I think that Microsoft watches for these things, so they will probably be banned from Xbox Live for a very long time. So while they do get to play it now we only have to wait a few more days and not have to worry about getting busted.

ag1002



MS bricks your console, they don't just ban you from xbox live they stop your 360 from working so you have to buy a new one.

MS doesn't "brick" your console, they ban your XBL account, also people are unplugging the eternet cables and playing GTAIV offline, until the game is released on the 29th, which i'm sure my game store will somehow "nevered recieved shipment, come back tomorrow" like my Halo 3 hahaha

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#26 Andrew_Xavier
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What will they say if a limewire style crackdown comes and they get sued like all the music pirates? I hate people who pirate anything. Seriously, the companys who make the games put a lot of time and effort into them, if you don't feel the game is worth the full price, don't buy it, just wait for it to come down in price.
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#27 yucky_straw
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[QUOTE="yucky_straw"][QUOTE="ag1002"][QUOTE="yucky_straw"]

I agree that it is unfair. But that's just reality. Life isn't fair. These guys break the rules(or law) for the advantages that come with it. Even though they're taking a huge risk of being caught or breaking their xbox.

I'm not willing to take such a risk. But I'm not angry that other people are doing it. Even if it is unfair that I have to wait and they don't. If they're willing to risk their consoles, warranty, and gamertag, then that's their choice.

ag1002



I'm not sure if you meant it like that, but what you're saying is... it's ok to do it, but it's a gamble... and if it was risk free you'd be perfectly fine with stealing.

It's against the law, it's wrong. Whether it's risk free or not, it's wrong. If there's a man asleep at the bus stop, and I'm walking by... is it ok to take advantage and steal his wallet because it's risk free?

Yes, of course I know that stealing is wrong. But pirating entertainment is not something that really upsets me whenever see or hear about someone doing it. The people making this material will have very good lives regardless of pirates.

Stealing from the rich is an act that's morally wrong but I can't feel much sympathy when there are more unfortunate people out there getting screwed over.



Ok sorry I misunderstood. Yeah, pirating entertainment doesn't upset me much either, but only because it is to be expected and can't be stopped. Just think though, if one guy bought a copy of the game and put it up for download, and everyone downloaded it instead of buying their own copy of the game, then that game company would not be able to afford to continue making games. The only reason pirating isn't a big deal for game developers is because not enough people are doing it to effect sales by much.

Good point.

I don't think that there's enought pirating right now to cause companies to go bankrupt. But it probably will get to that point in the future. That's when I think we'll see more strict laws and regulations when it comes to downloading stuff.

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#28 Pennockk
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i was considering modding my xbox cos i never have enough money for games but i dont think i will.. i have already pre-ordered GTA and i admit that the people playing early are honestly jus *****!!!

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#29 capthavic
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Well life isn't fair, it's a fact. But it's really not that bad. Is it going to kill you to wait a few more days? And if they are using a modded console then they can't play online.
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#30 Shas02
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Well life isn't fair, it's a fact. But it's really not that bad. Is it going to kill you to wait a few more days? And if they are using a modded console then they can't play online.capthavic

Mod 360 can play on XBL

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Let's not discuss the merits or drawbacks of modding. Thanks.