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#1 JustaShadowe
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Recently, there was an anouncement from Microsoft that there would be a filter to turn off all blood and replace it with sparks and remove any swearing. But, at the same time, they also said that you would be able to chainsaw some poor locust in half and actually hear them screaming and watch them wriggling around while you stick a chainsaw in their back.

How do you guys feel about this? Personally, I think this is nice of epic, but really wish they didnt do this. If a kid isnt aloud to buy an m rated game like Gears of war, then please, for the sake of this child dont let him. I just left 2 freaking games because kids kept freaking spamming the mic, it really bothers me. I have a headache now and am going to take some advil later.

But regardless, this still isnt going to protect the future of our children. If there that young that they cant buy a gory game like gears of war without telling there parents first then they shouldnt, it would screw them up eventually anyway. I really think epic is just doing this so they can reach more money than the first game did and try to attract more people to their game, regardless of their age.

So, what do you think? you know my opinion, negative, obviously, but please respect it, and do not flame, just poke holes xD

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#2 Sub-ZeroJoe
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Recently, there was an anouncement from Microsoft that there would be a filter to turn off all blood and replace it with sparks and remove any swearing. But, at the same time, they also said that you would be able to chainsaw some poor locust in half and actually hear them screaming and watch them wriggling around while you stick a chainsaw in their back.

How do you guys feel about this? Personally, I think this is nice of epic, but really wish they didnt do this. If a kid isnt aloud to buy an m rated game like Gears of war, then please, for the sake of this child dont let him. I just left 2 freaking games because kids kept freaking spamming the mic, it really bothers me. I have a headache now and am going to take some advil later.

But regardless, this still isnt going to protect the future of our children. If there that young that they cant buy a gory game like gears of war without telling there parents first then they shouldnt, it would screw them up eventually anyway. I really think epic is just doing this so they can reach more money than the first game did and try to attract more people to their game, regardless of their age.

So, what do you think? you know my opinion, negative, obviously, but please respect it, and do not flame, just poke holes xD

JustaShadowe
Thats the only problem. It might lure a lot more kids but the first one also had a option that blocked the blood and gore. To be honest though, im not annoyed by annoying little kids because Microsoft blessed us with a mute button.
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#3 Matt-4542
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I like it. I think every game should do this. I dont want to have my gaming selection severely limited when my cousin comes to visit because I wont chainsaw and blow heads off infront of him, he's only 5. With this I can still play my favorite games around him and even let him play if he wants it. I can usually only play Skate when hes over, and he likes it so its not too bad :lol:
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#4 grafkhun
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Ah you see, even though it is rated M, age demographics lower than the ESRB limit will still get their slimy hands on it regardless. No doubt 10 year olds will be playing this, and I think it's a least a step, albeit more like a toe nudge, in the right direction on Epic games' part to try and limit the violence in the game. Also the filter is good for other times, like if you're playing while a younger person is in the room the option is there.
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#5 resident-shell
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I have no problem with Epic making more money, it's a business. When it comes to morals, I don't really care. Children ultimately will get their hands on mature titles if they so desire. I think Gears has built up a reputation for itself as a violent game, so prudent, or more responsible adults will know what they're getting into. Honestly though, the filter will mostly be used by 13 year old children whose parents are on the fence about mature games, and not by six year olds. Most adults know better than that.
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#6 Brmarlin
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First game had it and the option didn't do anything. I don't care, I'm probably not gonna be playing Gears MP anyway, and if I am, I'm going to be in private chat. Squeaky kids aren't going to bug me this time.
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#7 Pittfan666
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I honestly don't care at all. I'm 19 and none of this applies to me anymore. Who cares if there's gore in the game, some television shows are worse than Gears. If I had a 13 year old kid I'd let him play mature games.
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#8 gta4_2112
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Its not just for kids alot of people do not like the gore like online when your host and you get blasted by a shotgun blood goes everywhere but I like the gore its so awsome
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#9 iam2green
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it would be ok. i'm mature enough to see blood.
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#10 jedislayer200
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Its for people who are on the fence about mature games, i.e. concerned parents. Little Timmy can say "Look mom, I can turn the blood and gore off and the sweer words!" which is the only reason parents are concerned. No one cares about violence, I've seen tons of young kid TV shows with loads of violence, just look at Bugs Bunny and Tom and Jerry. Bottom line parents dont care about violence as long as there is no blood, gore or sweering. Besides you can turn the fillter right off.
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#11 destinhpark
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Uhm, who cares? It's a filter. You can toggle it on or off. Obviously, alot of us won't be turning on these filters. But who gives a crap. Also, this option was in the first game and I heard no complaints? What's with all this pissing and moaning?
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#12 jedislayer200
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Uhm, who cares? It's a filter. You can toggle it on or off. Obviously, alot of us won't be turning on these filters. But who gives a crap. Also, this option was in the first game and I heard no complaints? What's with all this pissing and moaning?
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Valid point... but if you dont like what this forums about, do us all a favor and leave.

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#13 skatatay
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The average parent wouldnt have any idea how to turn the filter on in the first place, they probably wont even know that a filter exists in the game.
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#14 Elder-Scrolls
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I laughed a little but yah i think this should be in for kids 12 and under, but any older and the blood and gore is fine. i got alot of little friends and man they buy games for blood like one of them just starting loving fallout 3 as soon as i showed them the g4 vid. they might be wierd but for me the blood and gore gives me a ownage feeling like if some one explodes in and it shows it with blood it feels like the guy got pawned but if some one explode and just lays on the floor its not as cool.
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#15 tyployt
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I have some friends around age 30 who don't play that many shooters because of all the gore. The option to turn off or tone down the gore is perfect for them. It isn't just something they added to get more kids to play.
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#16 chaoscougar1
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i personally hate children on xbox live and thats why i love the mute feature
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#17 theqbz
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i personally hate children on xbox live and thats why i love the mute featurechaoscougar1

agreed

But i s se this as a preemptive strike to all the parent groups for the simple fact that all the new brutal feature but did they mention if the "finishers" would be turned off.

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#18 _RA0_
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nothing, since it's optional and I can turn off the filter when I play the game.
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#19 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="JustaShadowe"]

Recently, there was an anouncement from Microsoft that there would be a filter to turn off all blood and replace it with sparks and remove any swearing. But, at the same time, they also said that you would be able to chainsaw some poor locust in half and actually hear them screaming and watch them wriggling around while you stick a chainsaw in their back.

How do you guys feel about this? Personally, I think this is nice of epic, but really wish they didnt do this. If a kid isnt aloud to buy an m rated game like Gears of war, then please, for the sake of this child dont let him. I just left 2 freaking games because kids kept freaking spamming the mic, it really bothers me. I have a headache now and am going to take some advil later.

But regardless, this still isnt going to protect the future of our children. If there that young that they cant buy a gory game like gears of war without telling there parents first then they shouldnt, it would screw them up eventually anyway. I really think epic is just doing this so they can reach more money than the first game did and try to attract more people to their game, regardless of their age.

So, what do you think? you know my opinion, negative, obviously, but please respect it, and do not flame, just poke holes xD

Sub-ZeroJoe

Thats the only problem. It might lure a lot more kids but the first one also had a option that blocked the blood and gore. To be honest though, im not annoyed by annoying little kids because Microsoft blessed us with a mute button.

Well since the filter won't affect me, i really think its good. The next step for them is to have the death animations call handles attached to the filter code so they can block that stuff. If your under 18 you shouldnt see that stuff, even if you're "already used to it" you shouldnt be.

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#20 doubalfa
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is easy to judge this if you are over 18 years old, (im 22 actually) but I imagine myself 11 years ago, if someone would tell not to play turok because of the gore I would be mad, yes I grew up playing gry games and mario games as equal but guess what? i am not a psycho, so I think the filter is there for parents to feel more "in control" of what their kids play
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#21 ps3killer89
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i think if the kid that is playing it knows the stuff is very wrong to do in real life and to never do it then let them play it i was brought up like that my favorite game when i was litte was the resident evil series i loved them and thats all i played was gory games but i didnt turn out to be a physco path that kills and kills but the hole gears thing as long as i can toggle it thats fine o and they gotta figure kids are alot smarter these days so all they gotta do is toggle it but its just the challange of them geting their parents to get it lol.
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#22 zaidpass
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I didn't care what so ever, yes there are annoying kids on Xbox Live, but I noticed that people are starting to be less annoying then they used to be. If htat makes any sense lol

But about the filter, I really don't care. And from my view, games don't corrupt an individuals mind. Doesn't matter what it is.

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#23 resident-shell
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i think if the kid that is playing it knows the stuff is very wrong to do in real life and to never do it then let them play it i was brought up like that my favorite game when i was litte was the resident evil series i loved them and thats all i played was gory games but i didnt turn out to be a physco path that kills and kills but the hole gears thing as long as i can toggle it thats fine o and they gotta figure kids are alot smarter these days so all they gotta do is toggle it but its just the challange of them geting their parents to get it lol.ps3killer89
If anything, kids are less smart these days. Also, you never know when you could go postal. Maybe someday you'll go on a murderous killing spree and it will be all video games' fault.

You never know.

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I dont care because it wont effect me.
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#25 jknight5422
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I feel entirely numb to the idea of a filter.
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#26 maxmax1234
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Have you ever played Gears without extreme content? it feels so empty, like your playing the R rated version. It takes away the gears feeling, it just doesnt feel right
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#27 raahsnavj
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I don't see why this is such a big thing... Duke Nukem 3D of yester-year had a M filter on it too. It would strip out the blood, strippers (yep you heard that right), and language. This 'Filter' is nothing new when it comes to gaming... and frankly, I'm glad to see the feature make it back. This feature doesn't do anything but allow more people to play the game, the way they want to play it, and that should be a good thing right?
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#28 vashkey
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It's stupid, really. Kids shouldnt get it either way. This is only encouraging parent to buy children games they shouldnt.
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#29 lordmt
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The average parent wouldnt have any idea how to turn the filter on in the first place, they probably wont even know that a filter exists in the game.skatatay

The child will address this to there parent so that the parent will get the game for the child. This would be an excuse for the child to get a rated m game. =p Thank god im 17 =p.

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#30 VitamiX
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I like it. I think every game should do this. I dont want to have my gaming selection severely limited when my cousin comes to visit because I wont chainsaw and blow heads off infront of him, he's only 5. With this I can still play my favorite games around him and even let him play if he wants it. I can usually only play Skate when hes over, and he likes it so its not too bad :lol: Matt-4542

Wait a few years. My rule is, if he's 8, he's already seen it at a friend's house.

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#31 horseyjesse
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I have some friends around age 30 who don't play that many shooters because of all the gore. The option to turn off or tone down the gore is perfect for them. It isn't just something they added to get more kids to play.tyployt

Ya, you guys don't seem to be taking into consideration that the average age of gamers are in their 30s, which means they could very well have children of their own. Whether or not they allow their kids to play this with the filter on, they can switch it on so foul language doesn't echo through the house, or so "little timmy" doesn't have to see blood splatter all over the screen.

Plus, I think kids are used to violence. Most humor in children's programming is slapstick. Someone gets hurt and kids think its funny. What makes it scary, typically, is blood. How many of you have (or know a little kid who has) wiped out while playing outside and scrapped their knee..but didn't cry or get upset until blood was seen?

I think the filter is a good idea and it makes the game a little bit more accessible. So what if that drives sales? Isn't the point of releasing games to sell them and make money?

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#32 rob1101
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it will probably have the same effect as the first one did with its filter... and there will always be little anoying kids on the internet
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#34 jedislayer200
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If anything, kids are less smart these days. Also, you never know when you could go postal. Maybe someday you'll go on a murderous killing spree and it will be all video games' fault.

You never know.

resident-shell

What you're saying is stupid, you're saying a video game is to blame for murder. That would be like saying the gun is responsible for the man dying not the shooter? Its an inamnimate object, and if you cant tell the difference from fiction and reallity... well you shouldn't be playing video games in the first place.

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#35 trophylocoste
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I think I have more than 1000 players muted...
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#36 Essian
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as long as I can choose to turn off said filter, I'm happy. Also, I feel I should point out that in terms of the argument of whether video games create killers or not, they dont. The fact of the matter is that psychologically the person was already ready to be a killer. The video game was the catalyst, and if the child is young, then it is the responsibility of the parents to protect their children. Correct me if I'm wrong but each Xbox 360 console has the option of restricting games from being played by rating. So if there is a ten year old kid with an Xbox, then the parents should go ahead and set it up so they cant play M rated games, and the console won't let them. Back to the argument at hand, blaming video games for murder is like blaming alcohol for domestic abuse. It can be a catalyst towards the eventual breakdown of the individual, but it cant be blamed for being so. The game doesnt choose the player.
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#37 jedislayer200
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as long as I can choose to turn off said filter, I'm happy. Also, I feel I should point out that in terms of the argument of whether video games create killers or not, they dont. The fact of the matter is that psychologically the person was already ready to be a killer. The video game was the catalyst, and if the child is young, then it is the responsibility of the parents to protect their children. Correct me if I'm wrong but each Xbox 360 console has the option of restricting games from being played by rating. So if there is a ten year old kid with an Xbox, then the parents should go ahead and set it up so they cant play M rated games, and the console won't let them. Back to the argument at hand, blaming video games for murder is like blaming alcohol for domestic abuse. It can be a catalyst towards the eventual breakdown of the individual, but it cant be blamed for being so. The game doesnt choose the player.Essian

Thank you, you explaned that so much better than I did. Now how about that fillter....

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#38 DeathHeart95
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Could care less. I doubt any parents care how violent a game is anyway. Except my parents. Of course. :P
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#39 GTP_HaVoC
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I think its retarded its mature for a reason kids shouldnt be playing it. im tired of going online and having little kids online and people telling me to watch my mouth when im playing a mature game. grow up or dont play the game.

P.S. xbox should take mute in to consideration when banning people also

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#40 msdd9
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I think it's pointless because unless they modify it so it requires a password or something to toggle the gore and language the kids will be able to turn everything back on. If a kid can play Gears they can go to the options menu and press the "filter off" button.
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#41 R0SSMATHIS
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It states in the article that it's a toggle you have to use. So by default I'm sure it will be true to the Gears of War spirit. But it's up to parents to switch the toggle. Besides like I'm sure others have stated this is a M (Mature) Rated game so it's only natural that there be blood, violence, and explicit language within. It's like you're not going to watch "Wanted" like it originally was and then watch it with Nerf Guns and firecrackers. I think it is nice for those children who have very strict rules; this way they can still play the game. I think this was also a feature on the previous Gears of War too, but this is just something I read elsewhere so I'm not too sure how accurate it is.
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#42 X-7
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Ah you see, even though it is rated M, age demographics lower than the ESRB limit will still get their slimy hands on it regardless. No doubt 10 year olds will be playing this, and I think it's a least a step, albeit more like a toe nudge, in the right direction on Epic games' part to try and limit the violence in the game. Also the filter is good for other times, like if you're playing while a younger person is in the room the option is there.grafkhun

I know I am proud of Epic. Plus, I don't like all the language and violence myself. Definitely gonna preorder now. Well, maybe... don't really have the money.

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#43 MuscleCarMan
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i see this as a way to say to all those activist groups that video game companies try to at least protect children from violent games. They took the first step, the rest is up to the parent.

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#44 R7_3
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Its not just for kids alot of people do not like the gore like online when your host and you get blasted by a shotgun blood goes everywhere but I like the gore its so awsomegta4_2112
i don't even mind getting killed, as long as i explode doing it lol
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#45 ThEmAk_XD
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I hate adults because they think they all that and there equally annoying as the little kids that play online
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#46 69ANT69
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Its a good Idea, But I don't care that much, It really doesn't affect me.
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#47 Fayt445
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Its optional so it doesnt bother me, but I think its a serious waste of time because no one is gonna use it.
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#48 X-7
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Its optional so it doesnt bother me, but I think its a serious waste of time because no one is gonna use it.Fayt445

I will.

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#49 ItalianBoyPhil
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Does it matter? Who would turn the awesomeness off??? I wouldn't :P

Its just a parental setting, they probably used it so the BBFC or other companies, give them a suitable setting & allow it to pass through into stores.

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#50 N0-
Member since 2008 • 308 Posts

why does it bother you you can turn it on and off who cares