they would cost the same as the white 360s wouldnt they? $190 hard drive sold seperatly i dont think they would charge more for a black console with hdmi port over and outdated white console without them the real difference is the larger hard drive and that would be sold seperate and of course when we start seeing used black systems thats probably the same time you could find a refurbished 120gb hard drive on gamestop.com what do you think the price of it would be
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