How often do you run into Cheaters on XBL?

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#1 TruthSeeker777
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I used to occasionally play Halo & Halo 2 multiplayer on XBL back in the day (I have less time and money these days). I remember running into cheaters every so often. Usually these cheaters were invincible to all forms of damage expect rockets, grenades or any explosive.

My question is how often do you run into cheaters on XBL? What can we do about them? Can users report them to MS? What kind of penalties, if any, do cheaters face? How harsh are these penalties? How do you personally react when you encounter a cheater? Do you just exit the game and leave it at that? Do you take any other action?

Lastly, is there anything MS can do better to address this issue?

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#2 Cowmanik
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I've never encountered cheaters on live. Microsoft bans them.
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#3 JonesWs
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Gears of War alot of glitchers halo2 also

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#4 Expo_Smacko
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I have seen 2 on xbox 360.

reported them both.

Havent seen them sence.

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#5 atreyu27
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Well if your going to play halo 3 than the good news is if there are people cheating you can save the video so you have evidence that it happend and maybe send it to microsoft.. but yeah you can send bad feedback . I would say there is glitching but not too much cheating on Xbox live.
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#7 SuP3R_TooT
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about as often as you run into black people in harlem
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#8 catrocr
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Okay, so I have had this happen about 3 times in Halo 3 mp: I bash a guy after shooting him with the AR, we are both running out of ammo, he reloads and I bash him again, he still doesn't die and then he shoots me or bashes me and kills me. And he has NO OVERSHIELD. So how does that happen?! 2 bashes plus half a clip of AR ammo should down anyone. Maybe it's lag, but there seems to be very little lag in 4 vs. 4 Team Slayer. Hmmmmm...
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#9 Radiozo
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Never encountered cheaters. People that claim they do probably just suck as playing.
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#10 SuperIntendent
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i find alot of people that use glitches in games like gears and splinter cell.

people that tamper with the game to give them inviciblity, i dont really see too much

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#11 Cowmanik
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Never encountered cheaters. People that claim they do probably just suck as playing.Radiozo

I was going to say this but decided I'd let someone else have a go.

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#12 bazanger
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you get the occassional people in Rainbow Six who will glitch in grenades. how do i deal with it? i kick them from my matches, give them negative feedback, and report them to MS (even though we all know they dont do anything about it)
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#13 Cowmanik
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you get the occasional people in Rainbow Six who will glitch in grenades. how do i deal with it? i kick them from my matches, give them negative feedback, and report them to MS (even though we all know they dont do anything about it)ctfvyrsgurbnorn

Unfortunately glitching is allowed on Live. The best thing you can do is give them negative feedback. I guess you could try to tell Ubisoft about the exploit but they seem content on not fixing it.

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#14 Vance_009
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I run into cheaters in XBL but not as bad compare to the pc. Wall hacks, Aimbots, and double speed is what I see most on pc. On XBl it mostely just thing that the dep team did not do a good job, most of the time. like runing out of the map in Gears of War
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#15 pjhtiger44
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Anyone who beats me in halo is a cheater; therefore, I run into cheaters all the time.
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#16 Yceman757
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Okay, so I have had this happen about 3 times in Halo 3 mp: I bash a guy after shooting him with the AR, we are both running out of ammo, he reloads and I bash him again, he still doesn't die and then he shoots me or bashes me and kills me. And he has NO OVERSHIELD. So how does that happen?! 2 bashes plus half a clip of AR ammo should down anyone. Maybe it's lag, but there seems to be very little lag in 4 vs. 4 Team Slayer. Hmmmmm...
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Thats happened to me a lot. I think its lag because it spikes and you might lag for like a second. But Ive been having problems with my network and I cant edit the settings to try to fix it because the problem is probably my NAT which I have no idea how to open. But what happens is it looks like everyone else is running around and playing normal but my internet lags and Im usually lagging and I'll die and it will take me forever to respawn and stuff like that. But I havent seen any cheaters in Halo 3 yet. Hopefully there wont be any, cheating ruined Halo 2 because of the standbying, and all the mods when the new maps came out.
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#17 Spartan874
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just wanted to point out to the TC that Halo: CE doesnt have live. i know you meant halo 2 but just wanted to point it out. anyways, i rarely see and glitchers/cheaters/modders because they usually get banned or suspended from XBL
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#18 JohnTheGamer
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I've never ran into anyone cheating before, I've seen people glitching before though but they weren't that good anyways
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#19 EnigmaticBeauty
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How do you cheat on Xbox Live? I thought it couldn't be done
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#20 SaintJimmmy
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last one i saw a cheater was at the release of shadowrun some guy named Xx LagBullet xX hoos now banned you to mess with his box and teleport around the map
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#21 darksusperia
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[QUOTE="ctfvyrsgurbnorn"]you get the occasional people in Rainbow Six who will glitch in grenades. how do i deal with it? i kick them from my matches, give them negative feedback, and report them to MS (even though we all know they dont do anything about it)Cowmanik

Unfortunately glitching is allowed on Live. The best thing you can do is give them negative feedback. I guess you could try to tell Ubisoft about the exploit but they seem content on not fixing it.

no its not. Forza is a good example of this. They have banned many xbox live users for offensive content and glitching.

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#22 Agent_Kaliaver
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So far i haven't encountered any on the 360... I do remeber the Halo 2 days though and that was quite a few cheaters, but so far none.

Oh and people when the person you're playing kills you that means they are better than you and you most likely suck (or they are extremely lucky) and doesn't mean they are cheating.

Truth be known the closest thing to cheating i have seen is the Gears of War host advantage, but that isn't a cheat.

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#23 klusps
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Honestly I never encounter a cheater in XBL.
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#25 scottahuch
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Anyone who beats me in halo is a cheater; therefore, I run into cheaters all the time.pjhtiger44

Your logic is flawless.

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#26 Cwagmire21
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Gears is about every other game though I guess that's glitching and not technically cheating but I still think its cheating. Halo 3 I have a lot of "WTF how did that happen??" moments but I can't say for sure if its cheating or just lag.
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#27 bansheerpg
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The only game I saw cheaters on was Rainbow Six: Vegas. After being shot trough a wall by an unkillable 90 M/ph fast ball, I guess I can say they were cheating...
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#28 3Dpaper
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i no how you feel, HEADSHOT....where did they mongoose come from?
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#29 Trickshot771
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Since I never played Halo 2 online, the only cheaters I ran into were on Gears of War. I ran into a couple a match.

I haven't had any problems with Halo 3, though. I'm going to quit playing it when Call of Duty 4 comes out so I'll never have to play with cheaters.

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#30 bluezclue
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I've never encountered cheaters on live. Microsoft bans them.Cowmanik

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAA........wait......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

go on rainbow six....and then come back here... and say that again with a straight face.......... u find cheaters all the time.... u find lamerz all the time... it happens...

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#31 blue_tape
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There is a way to cheat on Xbox Live. Your network cable, take it out and put it back in quickly and repeatedly until the other people lag out.
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#32 HaDoKeN_NaTe
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i see alot in gears especially when someone quits...some dude has to start roadie runnin or gettin off the map
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#33 ply74
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I believe those with Fios have a big upper hand. Therefore if you have cable it doesn't upload your bullets fast enough so you'll get owned. As for cheaters, hmm yes there are way too many wtf how do you bash and bash and shoot and they don't die. And it doesn't just happen the 1 time it's usually the same people in a match that seem to be invulnirable to everything but explosions. I do not believe microsoft or bungie whoever bans anyone. I have cable and know sometimes it's due to my foes connection superiorority. It to happens so often that I hate playing Halo3 online sometimes. But it's just too fun to stop playing so I don't care M$ will never fix the lag/glitch/connection discrepancies. Enjoy it's an online multiplayer game what do you expect. MapleStory, Flff, rainbow six, GoW, PSO all have em and probably always will. Just suck it up and play on and hope you don't run into to many in a row so you can get your skill up.
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#34 white_sox
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All the time in Gears, Vegas too. Halo 3 is newer, and I haven't encountered any glitchers in that.
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#35 Hell_Dude
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None. But talking about banning them. Remember the bans in May? When do you think will be the next ban wave.
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#36 trentman7
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I had the same thing happen to me......I shot a full load of AR, hit him once, hit him twice and he didnt die and he beats me down in one go........but i dont think it was cheating its prolly becoz ppl have a faster and better connection than me
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#37 Soothsayerr
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"If you can take advantage of a situation in some way, it's your duty as an American to do it. Why should the race always be to the swift or the jumble to the quick-witted? Should they be allowed to win merely because of the gifts god gave them? Well, I say, cheating is a gift man gave himself!" ~Mr. Burns
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#38 Keitarourashima
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[QUOTE="ctfvyrsgurbnorn"]you get the occasional people in Rainbow Six who will glitch in grenades. how do i deal with it? i kick them from my matches, give them negative feedback, and report them to MS (even though we all know they dont do anything about it)Cowmanik

Unfortunately glitching is allowed on Live. The best thing you can do is give them negative feedback. I guess you could try to tell Ubisoft about the exploit but they seem content on not fixing it.

They've added a new glitch report funtion, under bad player reviews, that's how I reported an azn hater to MS, wrote his name down, says there is no such user when I try to add to friends just to see if he's there. So some things happen when u report to ms, dont know how frequently though

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#39 satan112
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Generally I dont run into cheaters.. but on Saints Row's multiplayer there are so many TKers!

I just give them bad feedback.. don't really know exactly what else you can do about them.

Anyway I think cheaters get penalised by MS on XBL, dont they?

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#40 Green_Iugana
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I have never encountered a cheater, though on Socom on the psp every game there would be at least 2 hackers and it sucked
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#41 stevenmejia007
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I played like 4 guys (and reported them) that were doing impossible stuff like no receiving damage and killing my mates with only couple of shots with the Assault Riffle.

good news Bungie is bringing the banhammer! :D

Bungie has such a sophisticated tracking system that they are aware were every player has walked, shot, jump, crouch, nade, etc. so hopefully cheaters/modders will be punish.

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#42 shaunchgo
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I didn't think it was possible to cheat at Halo 2/3. Usually people that complain of cheaters are those who aren't as good as the others in the room. I remember in Halo 3 multiplayer, I started with a 8 - 0 kill streak and at the end, this guy said I cheated. How the heck do you cheat at Halo 3? Learn to play the game.
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Whenever I'm losing... lol.
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#44 TruthSeeker777
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I have some other questions:

What kind of gamer cheats? When you have conversed with a cheater over voicechat or type, what kind of person were they?

XBL has a reputation of being filled with foul-mouthed twelve year olds. How accurate is this statement? Is it mostly younger (teenagers) gamers who are cheating? I personally don't understand why older gamers would cheat; it just seems so sad, immature, and pathetic to me. Why ruin a game for everybody else? Do cheaters enjoy getting on people's nerves?

For more skilled players, is there an option to play with a handicap when playing against your friends or other less skilled players online? I used to play with a handicap back in the Goldeneye and Perfect Dark days to make matches more balanced for my friends. I know with Halo 2 there was a skill level system where you are encouraged (was this forced?) to play with players ranked of relatively equal skill. Was this a good system? Can and how do you play with lesser skilled friends in Halo?

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#45 Zemus
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I don't think I really have run into any. Sure there are times where you think perhaps are they? But I think for the Vast Majority of it, people just complain about cheaters to cover up the fact that they just are not very good online.

You can be a master at playing a shooter in Single Player and be total crap online.