I choose 360 over PS3: am i right? what about Arcade version?

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#1 speedracer216
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I'm leaning toward 360 but have some questions. Seems like PS3 might be a better system, but 360 has way more/better games.

Anyway, here's the Q's

1. If I buy the arcade version of 360 what's the disadvantage? Can I do online play? DLC? even save my games?

2. Does the new USB hard drive support firmware update negate those disadvantages?

Thanks for all your help. Seemed like this was a good forum to ask :)

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#2 lafiro93
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Dont buy the arcade version plz!!! its bad. You are right about the more/better games part but try and get a pro if they still sell those.

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#3 djphelps
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I'm leaning toward 360 but have some questions. Seems like PS3 might be a better system, but 360 has way more/better games.

Anyway, here's the Q's

1. If I buy the arcade version of 360 what's the disadvantage? Can I do online play? DLC? even save my games?

2. Does the new USB hard drive support firmware update negate those disadvantages?

Thanks for all your help. Seemed like this was a good forum to ask :)

speedracer216
1. the only disadvantage is that you'll need to purchase an additional harddrive at some point, probably sooner than you think. It is best to install your games to the harddrive in order to play them. You can play online, but you'll need a separate wireless adapter if you don't want to run cables. USB harddrives will be limited to a max of 32GB (2 separate 16GB drives).
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#4 Talldude80
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the 360 will be more expensive if you want to play online and/or wireless. BUT the online community (xboxlive) is much better than the psn. the playstation hardware is a little better than xbox, but not by a mile or anything.

and i agree with anyone that says to not buy an Arcade. You'll eventually go out and buy a HDD anyways. Just buy the Elite. It comes with a 120gb HDD, while the arcade just comes with a memory unit that's like 512mb or something tiny. When you start downloading DLC, Demos, games, etc, you'll really want more than the 16gb max that the new update will allow. i'm pretty sure some games actually require a HDD though. last time i checked the 60gb Hdd was 99.99 and the new 250gb will cost like $129 or something...... might as well pay the extra 100 and get an elite with the 120gb instead of the cheapo arcade.

oh and when you probably get a wireless adapter, dont waste your money at Target/bestbuy/gamestop. they want nearly $100. I got mine used at a place called Bookmans for like $50. Works perfectly fine. I just dont recommend buying a used Xbox360 console, way too many guys got banned just recently and the older xbox360s are less reliable. the new ones are worth the extra $$

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#5 King_Austin
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While the xbox does have more games to play online and simply has a better online service that the psn, at least the psn is free. Personally I can't tell much of a difference in game play with online gaming. I think it comes down to weather ya like games like halo and gears of war or Uncharted and God of war(personal fav). While i like the xbox i'm really glad i've got a ps3. It does so much more for your entertainment setup. The arcade doesn't come with a hard drive capable of downloading dlc's. You'll have to buy a hard drive. Not sure on question 2. Good luck in your choice mate.
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#6 speedracer216
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so the Arcade doesn't have wireless either?

I'm trying to convince my wife to let me do this... our tax refund is huge because of the homebuyer credit and we already spent $1500+ on a home gym... what's another $300 for xbox right?

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#7 Talldude80
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so the Arcade doesn't have wireless either?

I'm trying to convince my wife to let me do this... our tax refund is huge because of the homebuyer credit and we already spent $1500+ on a home gym... what's another $300 for xbox right?

speedracer216

nope. MS will nickle and dime you.

- extra $ for batteries for controller (ps3 controllers have built in rechargeable batteries, 360 controllers dont)

- extra $ for the wireless adapter (another ps3 included item)

- extra $ for xboxlive ($50/yr isnt that bad though)

BUT you'll find a wider selection of games on the Xbox360 over playstation3. and it has some of the best games and the best online service. Also DLC almost always comes out on Xboxlive first. the playstation network has really been slow releasing expansions for games.... but what do you expect from a free service... so really its kinda close. if i didnt already have a 360, i would have a hard time deciding. my old roommate had a ps3, that thing was pretty nice.

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#8 k2theswiss
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get elite... please save your self a hassle every dealing without hard drive.... i promise you regret not getting hard drive. the usb power support is limited... and people don't know what you can truly do with a flash drive yet. we just know about save files and save your account on them
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#10 k2theswiss
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[QUOTE="speedracer216"]

so the Arcade doesn't have wireless either?

I'm trying to convince my wife to let me do this... our tax refund is huge because of the homebuyer credit and we already spent $1500+ on a home gym... what's another $300 for xbox right?

Talldude80

nope. MS will nickle and dime you.

- extra $ for batteries for controller (ps3 controllers have built in rechargeable batteries, 360 controllers dont)

- extra $ for the wireless adapter (another ps3 included item)

- extra $ for xboxlive ($50/yr isnt that bad though)

BUT you'll find a wider selection of games on the Xbox360 over playstation3. and it has some of the best games and the best online service. Also DLC almost always comes out on Xboxlive first. the playstation network has really been slow releasing expansions for games.... but what do you expect from a free service... so really its kinda close. if i didnt already have a 360, i would have a hard time deciding. my old roommate had a ps3, that thing was pretty nice.

I'm glad the battery's are not built inside the controller like the ps3 why... What if the battery dies for good? buy whole new controller no thank. what if the charge run out. I gotta play last generation with a cable no thank you. 50 bucks for year is cheap and its good services so i can't complain
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#11 speedfog
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I buyed the arcade version that was bad from me ... needed to buy the hard drive , the internet , headset and may more just buy the elite :)

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#12 razoredge13
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Grab an elite for sure :) You can actually get the Spring Xbox 360 bundle (which includes Halo 3:ODST and Forza 3) for $300 right now + MANY retailers are offering a $50 gift card with purchase. I think Best Buy, Target, and Toys'r'us are doing that right now - You can get some great deals :)

The batteries in the wireless controllers last about 35-45 hours. I only have had to replace mine once a month or so. Yes, you'll have to spend $75-100 on a wireless adapter if you don't want to run a cable for Xbox live. You'll also kick yourself in the butt very soon if you don't buy the version with the HDD - being able to download arcade titles and install games is great :) It saves the game DVD's from getting scratched up at all.

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#13 grizzlybear1
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Better games on 360? Im not so sure. I think both consoles have great exclusives.

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[QUOTE="Talldude80"]

[QUOTE="speedracer216"]

so the Arcade doesn't have wireless either?

I'm trying to convince my wife to let me do this... our tax refund is huge because of the homebuyer credit and we already spent $1500+ on a home gym... what's another $300 for xbox right?

k2theswiss

nope. MS will nickle and dime you.

- extra $ for batteries for controller (ps3 controllers have built in rechargeable batteries, 360 controllers dont)

- extra $ for the wireless adapter (another ps3 included item)

- extra $ for xboxlive ($50/yr isnt that bad though)

BUT you'll find a wider selection of games on the Xbox360 over playstation3. and it has some of the best games and the best online service. Also DLC almost always comes out on Xboxlive first. the playstation network has really been slow releasing expansions for games.... but what do you expect from a free service... so really its kinda close. if i didnt already have a 360, i would have a hard time deciding. my old roommate had a ps3, that thing was pretty nice.

I'm glad the battery's are not built inside the controller like the ps3 why... What if the battery dies for good? buy whole new controller no thank. what if the charge run out. I gotta play last generation with a cable no thank you. 50 bucks for year is cheap and its good services so i can't complain

FYI, I've had the same PS3 controller for 2 years and it still holds a charge for a day or two... and when the battery inside does die you can buy a replacement for 10 bucls... opening your controller takes awhile but if you have patience its pretty easy.
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As long as your still on the fence just decide what system has the exclusives you'd prefer Halo&Gears vs Killzone&Uncharted. (Forza vs Gran Turismo) I'm not gonna get in to the semantics of it all I'll just say I own both and love both. Either way you cant go wrong, (seriously...)
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#16 HavocV3
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Elite bundle should be standard now.

120 HDD + ODST/Forza. I think this should be everywhere by now.

unless that $130 deal for Arcade is still going, don't believe you specified.

their price tag on the 250 HDD isn't bad either.

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#17 speedracer216
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that's true. I actually went through the catalog of each system and wrote down games that were "system sellers" or must haves for me. several are available on both... and a couple that are only on PS3 but more of my must haves were on 360. and some have better versions on 360 from what i read (like the Orange Box)

btw, which versions of the system can you do Netflix with? only elite? arcade?

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#18 HavocV3
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you're home-owner too, so you should be able to run an ethernet cable to your modem/router.

MS should be including wireless by now, the 360 slim might have it, but I doubt you want to wait. anyhow, a wire always beats wireless if you can make the arrangement.

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#19 HavocV3
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that's true. I actually went through the catalog of each system and wrote down games that were "system sellers" or must haves for me. several are available on both... and a couple that are only on PS3 but more of my must haves were on 360. and some have better versions on 360 from what i read (like the Orange Box)

btw, which versions of the system can you do Netflix with? only elite? arcade?

speedracer216

both versions. PS3 can do Netflix, but if you like a small TAD bit of convenience(360 doesn't need a disc to run Netflix). but MS has it set up that Netflix is a benefit for their gold subscribers.

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#20 dresdek
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I'm leaning toward 360 but have some questions. Seems like PS3 might be a better system, but 360 has way more/better games.

speedracer216

360 will cost more in the end but I find I use it way more than my ps3 due to the exclusives on it. Definitely give a good look into the exclusives for deciding your purchase. For me I bought the ps3 first because I was concentrating on the hardware but I am now thinking about selling it. Also remember that most original xbox games can be played on 360 while virtually all ps1 games can be played on current model ps3s.

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#21 k2theswiss
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[QUOTE="k2theswiss"][QUOTE="Talldude80"]

nope. MS will nickle and dime you.

- extra $ for batteries for controller (ps3 controllers have built in rechargeable batteries, 360 controllers dont)

- extra $ for the wireless adapter (another ps3 included item)

- extra $ for xboxlive ($50/yr isnt that bad though)

BUT you'll find a wider selection of games on the Xbox360 over playstation3. and it has some of the best games and the best online service. Also DLC almost always comes out on Xboxlive first. the playstation network has really been slow releasing expansions for games.... but what do you expect from a free service... so really its kinda close. if i didnt already have a 360, i would have a hard time deciding. my old roommate had a ps3, that thing was pretty nice.

MethodManFTW

I'm glad the battery's are not built inside the controller like the ps3 why... What if the battery dies for good? buy whole new controller no thank. what if the charge run out. I gotta play last generation with a cable no thank you. 50 bucks for year is cheap and its good services so i can't complain

FYI, I've had the same PS3 controller for 2 years and it still holds a charge for a day or two... and when the battery inside does die you can buy a replacement for 10 bucls... opening your controller takes awhile but if you have patience its pretty easy.

well idk about opening no ps3 controller but have fun with that.. anyways i still have my first recharge battery. had my xbox since halo 3 came out so what is it 2 1/2 years now and still play 2-4 days before i do charge it. you know how i change mine? click the tab no opening still owns

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#22 MethodManFTW
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yeah i know how you change yours.. i have a 360 too. im just saying that ps3 controllers are designed poorly are unintelligent, the battery packs last forever and are very cheap to replace. you dont have to buy charging peripherals or buy new AA batteries all the time. =/
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#23 jlevin860
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i have both, if you have friends that play video games at all check out what consoles they have and go with that.

the arcade can do everything the elite can except it has no HDD (and no headset). get the elite and install all games to the HDD. makes it run faster/quieter/cooler. (and forza is amazing in 1080p)

i'll admit i do love the ps3 though for it's exclusives, blu ray and that i can stream all my movies and music WIRELESSLY from my mac though..

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#24 k2theswiss
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people who only use non rechargeable AA's is

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#25 Paynee
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The Arcade will be fine if you don't plan on installing games, or d/l much of anything. But you should get the premium while you have the cash!

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#26 DarkGamer007
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Better games on 360? Im not so sure. I think both consoles have great exclusives.

grizzlybear1

Yeah but if you throw in the 360/PC games, it easily gives the hand to the Xbox 360 if you don't have a gaming computer.

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#27 chaoscougar1
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system wars would be an AWESOME place for this thread...
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#28 KBFloYd
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i just attached an ethernet cable from my xbox to my modem..works better than wifi and less expensive.

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#29 speedracer216
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system wars would be an AWESOME place for this thread...chaoscougar1

except that my question wasn't "which system" - heck right in the thread title I say that "I choose 360 over PS3" and the subsequent question is WHICH 360 to get...

it has devolved that way at times.

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#30 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]system wars would be an AWESOME place for this thread...speedracer216

except that my question wasn't "which system" - heck right in the thread title I say that "I choose 360 over PS3" and the subsequent question is WHICH 360 to get...

it has devolved that way at times.

"Seems like PS3 might be a better system" (in your opening post) shows indecision and room for discussion about the advantages/disadvantages of each system
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#31 Elian2530
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If you're shopping for an Xbox 360 and you're not buying Gamestops Elite Bundle deal with two games, you must be on something... Go check it out now... Anytime you choose a 360 over PS3 or vice versa, you lose. You're missing out on a lot of great games. I could understand if you can only purchase one console now.. but being a bias fanboy is your loss.