I hope Bioshock isn't bias towards players who play good

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#1 BlueTimber
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When a game advertises morality in it, and it's bias towards one end, it fails. I should be able to play the way I want, and not get the crappier of the two endings because of the way I played, like Splinter Cell double agent.

Seems bioshock will be the same unfortunately though.

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#2 deactivated-5f89ab8e63049
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Yeh. Damn them for reinforcing morality. What's with that?
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#4 Trickshot771
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I always play as the good guy in games, so I don't like endings that punish that.
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#5 Kevanio
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replayability...maybe you play good and dont kill little sisters then the big daddys help when you kill atlas or ryan or what i think personally ryan is atlas and attacked his own city lol however if you play bad maybe the splicers will join you lol
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replayability...maybe you play good and dont kill little sisters then the big daddys help when you kill atlas or ryan or what i think personally ryan is atlas and attacked his own city lol however if you play bad maybe the splicers will join you lolKevanio

Why would I play again as a different kinda character, for a crappier play experience? Where it's not as fun? Why provide choices in a video game, where one isn't as fun as the other. It's like games that have chracter classes. Balance is out. Don't make one overpowered so nobody wants to play as anything else. And don't make the good guy get the good ending. Make him get a DIFFERENT ending.

If I wanna play as a bad guy, cause you gave me the choice, I should be entitled to an awesome ending if the good guys get an awesome ending, but it should focus on the fact I was bad.

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it says right in every video of the game that the devs arent going to make the choices for the players.... players can play however they like, and there is no right or wrong way to play.

you can kill little sisters if you want, or you can help them.... or you can ignore them... you will not be penalized for how you play.

just watch the **** videos and see for yourself.... killing big daddies and little systems actually seems fairly encouraged....people like to **** way too much based on information that is incorrect or non-existant

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#8 BlueTimber
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it says right in every video of the game that the devs arent going to make the choices for the players.... players can play however they like, and there is no right or wrong way to play.

you can kill little sisters if you want, or you can help them.... or you can ignore them... you will not be penalized for how you play.

just watch the **** videos and see for yourself.... killing big daddies and little systems actually seems fairly encouraged....people like to **** way too much based on information that is incorrect or non-existant

Roland123_basic

Theysuggestgettingtothelittlesisters.Fromtheiryouhavethechoiceofkillordon't.Notkillingturnsthemintoanormalgirl,andnetsyoualittleadam.Killingthemgivesyoualotofadam,andadeadgirl.

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#9 blackmagic123
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[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

it says right in every video of the game that the devs arent going to make the choices for the players.... players can play however they like, and there is no right or wrong way to play.

you can kill little sisters if you want, or you can help them.... or you can ignore them... you will not be penalized for how you play.

just watch the **** videos and see for yourself.... killing big daddies and little systems actually seems fairly encouraged....people like to **** way too much based on information that is incorrect or non-existant

BlueTimber

Theysuggestgettingtothelittlesisters.Fromtheiryouhavethechoiceofkillordon't.Notkillingturnsthemintoanormalgirl,andnetsyoualittleadam.Killingthemgivesyoualotofadam,andadeadgirl.

Idontlikespacingmywordsouteither.

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I'm not so sure you can kill little sisters, even if you are playing evil. Some of the videos have suggested you can, but I think I remember a developer interview where he said it isn't possible to kill them, just steal their Adam. There are some obvious issues with being able to kill little girls in a video game I guess.
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#11 BlueTimber
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I'm not so sure you can kill little sisters, even if you are playing evil. Some of the videos have suggested you can, but I think I remember a developer interview where he said it isn't possible to kill them, just steal their Adam. There are some obvious issues with being able to kill little girls in a video game I guess.tlcain

IGN said you choose an option to kill, or save them. you kill for for alot of adam, or "cure" them, and get a little. Weird i Know.

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[QUOTE="BlueTimber"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

it says right in every video of the game that the devs arent going to make the choices for the players.... players can play however they like, and there is no right or wrong way to play.

you can kill little sisters if you want, or you can help them.... or you can ignore them... you will not be penalized for how you play.

just watch the **** videos and see for yourself.... killing big daddies and little systems actually seems fairly encouraged....people like to **** way too much based on information that is incorrect or non-existant

blackmagic123

Theysuggestgettingtothelittlesisters.Fromtheiryouhavethechoiceofkillordon't.Notkillingturnsthemintoanormalgirl,andnetsyoualittleadam.Killingthemgivesyoualotofadam,andadeadgirl.

Idontlikespacingmywordsouteither.

lol maybe his space bars broken?

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I kill them all !Why play nice guy it's a game ?
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[QUOTE="Kevanio"]replayability...maybe you play good and dont kill little sisters then the big daddys help when you kill atlas or ryan or what i think personally ryan is atlas and attacked his own city lol however if you play bad maybe the splicers will join you lolBlueTimber

Why would I play again as a different kinda character, for a crappier play experience? Where it's not as fun? Why provide choices in a video game, where one isn't as fun as the other. It's like games that have chracter classes. Balance is out. Don't make one overpowered so nobody wants to play as anything else. And don't make the good guy get the good ending. Make him get a DIFFERENT ending.

If I wanna play as a bad guy, cause you gave me the choice, I should be entitled to an awesome ending if the good guys get an awesome ending, but it should focus on the fact I was bad.

You do know there are other people in this world besides you. Why provide choices in a video game, where one isn't as fun as the other. Fun for one person might be playing the good side while being bad might be fun for another. I say give us as many choices as possible, that way you can play the game how you want to play it.
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#16 BlueTimber
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[QUOTE="BlueTimber"]

[QUOTE="Kevanio"]replayability...maybe you play good and dont kill little sisters then the big daddys help when you kill atlas or ryan or what i think personally ryan is atlas and attacked his own city lol however if you play bad maybe the splicers will join you lolWillT12345

Why would I play again as a different kinda character, for a crappier play experience? Where it's not as fun? Why provide choices in a video game, where one isn't as fun as the other. It's like games that have chracter classes. Balance is out. Don't make one overpowered so nobody wants to play as anything else. And don't make the good guy get the good ending. Make him get a DIFFERENT ending.

If I wanna play as a bad guy, cause you gave me the choice, I should be entitled to an awesome ending if the good guys get an awesome ending, but it should focus on the fact I was bad.

You do know there are other people in this world besides you. Why provide choices in a video game, where one isn't as fun as the other. Fun for one person might be playing the good side while being bad might be fun for another. I say give us as many choices as possible, that way you can play the game how you want to play it.

Okay, but that's got nothin to do with what I said....at all.

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[QUOTE="WillT12345"][QUOTE="BlueTimber"]

[QUOTE="Kevanio"]replayability...maybe you play good and dont kill little sisters then the big daddys help when you kill atlas or ryan or what i think personally ryan is atlas and attacked his own city lol however if you play bad maybe the splicers will join you lolBlueTimber

Why would I play again as a different kinda character, for a crappier play experience? Where it's not as fun? Why provide choices in a video game, where one isn't as fun as the other. It's like games that have chracter classes. Balance is out. Don't make one overpowered so nobody wants to play as anything else. And don't make the good guy get the good ending. Make him get a DIFFERENT ending.

If I wanna play as a bad guy, cause you gave me the choice, I should be entitled to an awesome ending if the good guys get an awesome ending, but it should focus on the fact I was bad.

You do know there are other people in this world besides you. Why provide choices in a video game, where one isn't as fun as the other. Fun for one person might be playing the good side while being bad might be fun for another. I say give us as many choices as possible, that way you can play the game how you want to play it.

Okay, but that's got nothin to do with what I said....at all.

It certainly sounds like he answered the first and third questions of your post, and I agree with it. Give me as many choices as possible so it has some value to the game and I can play it over and over (if its fun to begin with, if it sucks, the choices won't make a difference).

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[QUOTE="tlcain"]I'm not so sure you can kill little sisters, even if you are playing evil. Some of the videos have suggested you can, but I think I remember a developer interview where he said it isn't possible to kill them, just steal their Adam. There are some obvious issues with being able to kill little girls in a video game I guess.BlueTimber

IGN said you choose an option to kill, or save them. you kill for for alot of adam, or "cure" them, and get a little. Weird i Know.

Well, you'll technically be 'harvesting them' but yeah, what you said is correct. I think it certainly presents an interesting moral choice for you as you play the game. I'm very interested to see what impact is has on the game as you progress.